Having a baby to show bonafide evidence ?

[yellow123 0]

Our K3 interview ended up with the blue paper asking for "bonifide evidence". Our son was born before the interview, but didn't get his DNA testing done in time to show the interviewing CO. His paperwork is now completed and we've turned it in to show proof of "bonifide evidence". To our dismay we recieved a green paper stating "Your case requires additional processing in our office. You do not need to submit further documents. We will contact you when we have finished processing your case"

My question is that has anyone in here have a baby just to show proof of bonafide evidence and how did it work out ?

[chispas 0]

[Reba 2]

a baby is only evidence that you've had sex at least once. Not evidence of a genuine marriage.

[yellow123 0]

a baby is only evidence that you've had sex at least once. Not evidence of a genuine marriage.

Reda

Saying unmindful things like this really tick me off. If your relationship is genuine then you wouldn't mind having a baby to support your case. I'm willing to guess that those who have children between them is more likely to stay together longer than those who dont.

By the tone of your text, it sounds like you're assuming that we're not genuine. Let me tell you that I've visited my wife 5 times, stayed in her house and traveled everywhere with her. We have several hundreds pictures, many letters and post cards, and also countless of hours on Yahoo and through the phone.

I would appreciate it if you were more mindful the next time you post things.

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

With all respect, Reda speaks the truth. A baby (on its own) is not proof of an ongoing or even valid relationship. It only shows that two people engaged in a sexual relationship. I don't consider Reda believes your realtionship is necessarily not genuine. She is only pointing out the same thing as I. Babies have been used as pawns before. It is sad but true. You need to bring more to the table then, "Look we had a baby." No one is picking on you, just trying to help you understand the thinking of the C/O.

a baby is only evidence that you've had sex at least once. Not evidence of a genuine marriage.

Reda

Saying unmindful things like this really tick me off. If your relationship is genuine then you wouldn't mind having a baby to support your case. I'm willing to guess that those who have children between them is more likely to stay together longer than those who dont.

By the tone of your text, it sounds like you're assuming that we're not genuine. Let me tell you that I've visited my wife 5 times, stayed in her house and traveled everywhere with her. We have several hundreds pictures, many letters and post cards, and also countless of hours on Yahoo and through the phone.

I would appreciate it if you were more mindful the next time you post things.

[pushbrk 12,093]

a baby is only evidence that you've had sex at least once. Not evidence of a genuine marriage.

Reda

Saying unmindful things like this really tick me off. If your relationship is genuine then you wouldn't mind having a baby to support your case. I'm willing to guess that those who have children between them is more likely to stay together longer than those who dont.

By the tone of your text, it sounds like you're assuming that we're not genuine. Let me tell you that I've visited my wife 5 times, stayed in her house and traveled everywhere with her. We have several hundreds pictures, many letters and post cards, and also countless of hours on Yahoo and through the phone.

I would appreciate it if you were more mindful the next time you post things.

You asked a straight up question and got a straight up answer. If you get any "tone" from that, it's from your own imagination.

Words mean things. No, I've never heard of anybody having a baby to show evidence of bona fides. If a couple does choose to have a baby, that certainly can add positively to the overall picture of bonafides but in and of itself, it proves absolutely nothing, particularly in the PI where abortion is illegal, besides the couple had sex.

You didn't mention any other evidence so there's nothing in your post on which to base a conclusion about your relationship.

I think your notice just means they routinely have management people review such cases before rendering a decision.

[yellow123 0]

When people are genuine about thier relationship they will do everything to be together. If a couple is facing the "bonafide evidence" requirement then having a baby will sigificiently help, at least, that's what in the mind of people like us.

I have talked to a CO about this matter and she informed me that usually there will not be a problem obtaining a visa once the child gets his DNA tested with a positive result.

[pushbrk 12,093]

When people are genuine about thier relationship they will do everything to be together. If a couple is facing the "bonafide evidence" requirement then having a baby will sigificiently help, at least, that's what in the mind of people like us.

I have talked to a CO about this matter and she informed me that usually there will not be a problem obtaining a visa once the child gets his DNA tested with a positive result.

If you talked to a CO about this, it's beyond me why you asked about it here. I don't expect there will be a problem either but I would think people in a bona fide relationship may or may not want a baby, before or after the visa or whether a visa is needed or not. If the relationship is bona fide, it's usually sufficiently demonstrable with or without a baby.

Some of us are past that place in our lives and get visas anyway.

So, good luck and here's hoping your wait is not long.

[~Jackie~ 30]

Hey Reba!!!

J

[yellow123 0]

When people are genuine about thier relationship they will do everything to be together. If a couple is facing the "bonafide evidence" requirement then having a baby will sigificiently help, at least, that's what in the mind of people like us.

I have talked to a CO about this matter and she informed me that usually there will not be a problem obtaining a visa once the child gets his DNA tested with a positive result.

If you talked to a CO about this, it's beyond me why you asked about it here. I don't expect there will be a problem either but I would think people in a bona fide relationship may or may not want a baby, before or after the visa or whether a visa is needed or not. If the relationship is bona fide, it's usually sufficiently demonstrable with or without a baby.

Some of us are past that place in our lives and get visas anyway.

So, good luck and here's hoping your wait is not long.

The reason why I asked the CO and here as well is that I wanted to reassure myself with the experiences of people who have went before me. It has been a long 2 years of waiting and I want to prepare myself as much as possible. I also wanted to know why the CO made us wait if we had all the paperwork that was asked and also get feedback from those that have been through the same scenario.

[Reba 2]

With all respect, Reda speaks the truth. A baby (on its own) is not proof of an ongoing or even valid relationship. It only shows that two people engaged in a sexual relationship. I don't consider Reda believes your realtionship is necessarily not genuine. She is only pointing out the same thing as I. Babies have been used as pawns before. It is sad but true. You need to bring more to the table then, "Look we had a baby." No one is picking on you, just trying to help you understand the thinking of the C/O.

Zackly! Its happened before, it'll happen again. Woman wants to get to America, gets pregnant, dupes man into green card, then splits. C/Os are well aware of this, so if your only "evidence" of a relationship is a baby, I wouldn't count your chickens just yet.

Hi Jackie, how you doing sweetie?

[Urge To Race 2]

I would think people in a bona fide relationship may or may not want a baby, before or after the visa or whether a visa is needed or not. If the relationship is bona fide, it's usually sufficiently demonstrable with or without a baby.

Some of us are past that place in our lives and get visas anyway.

[yellow123 0]

With all respect, Reda speaks the truth. A baby (on its own) is not proof of an ongoing or even valid relationship. It only shows that two people engaged in a sexual relationship. I don't consider Reda believes your realtionship is necessarily not genuine. She is only pointing out the same thing as I. Babies have been used as pawns before. It is sad but true. You need to bring more to the table then, "Look we had a baby." No one is picking on you, just trying to help you understand the thinking of the C/O.

Zackly! Its happened before, it'll happen again. Woman wants to get to America, gets pregnant, dupes man into green card, then splits. C/Os are well aware of this, so if your only "evidence" of a relationship is a baby, I wouldn't count your chickens just yet.

Hi Jackie, how you doing sweetie?

I would never even imagine the scenario above to happen. It would be very inhuman. To those of you who thinks that those who have children to satisfy the "bonafide evidence" requirement are those that don't have any other evidences then you are mistaken. Usually those are the people that have known each other for a long time and have as much evidence as anybody, but is just dealing with a very hard consulate that requires 3 times as much as a normal consulate. Read some of the situations at visajourney and you'll see.

[pushbrk 12,093]

With all respect, Reda speaks the truth. A baby (on its own) is not proof of an ongoing or even valid relationship. It only shows that two people engaged in a sexual relationship. I don't consider Reda believes your realtionship is necessarily not genuine. She is only pointing out the same thing as I. Babies have been used as pawns before. It is sad but true. You need to bring more to the table then, "Look we had a baby." No one is picking on you, just trying to help you understand the thinking of the C/O.

Zackly! Its happened before, it'll happen again. Woman wants to get to America, gets pregnant, dupes man into green card, then splits. C/Os are well aware of this, so if your only "evidence" of a relationship is a baby, I wouldn't count your chickens just yet.

Hi Jackie, how you doing sweetie?

I would never even imagine the scenario above to happen. It would be very inhuman. To those of you who thinks that those who have children to satisfy the "bonafide evidence" requirement are those that don't have any other evidences then you are mistaken. Usually those are the people that have known each other for a long time and have as much evidence as anybody, but is just dealing with a very hard consulate that requires 3 times as much as a normal consulate. Read some of the situations at visajourney and you'll see.

I think there's just some miscommunication going on. You keep writing "have children to satisfy bona fide evidence requirement...." as if your only reason to have a child was to prove your relationship is bona fide. What at least, I'm saying is that when the relationship is bona fide, there is usually enough evidence that any couple who has a child, does so for other more traditional reasons. Anything they subsequently gain in evidence of bona fides is incidental to their choice to have a child.

Do you really mean to say the primary reason why you chose to have a child is to bolster your bona fides evidence? If so, so be it. If not, then please understand the source of any misunderstanding.

[Reba 2]

I would never even imagine the scenario above to happen. It would be very inhuman. ... Read some of the situations at visajourney and you'll see.

heh...I've been around here a very very long time yellow. I've read quite a bit of the situations here at VJ. And I'm sure there's been more than one American citizen over the years whose been taken to the cleaners just for the green card.

Never have I said that this is what's going on with you, I'm just saying that the COs know it happens all the time, so they're looking for genuine relationships, and a baby is not always evidence of that.