Should I list "failed to stop bike on stop sign" citation on the N-400?

[batsd 0]

Folks,

I will send my N-400 application soon.

I have three tickets: speeding (9 years ago), seat belt (12 years ago), failed to stop my Bike at stop sign (12 years ago). All were paid for promptly. I am planning to list my citations in the application and attach my DMV record which is clear as it covers the last 5 years only. However, I am not decided yet on whether or not I need to list the Biking citation. I am not sure if it is even a traffic citation or civil infraction.

I know it won't have any effect, but I like to have my application as simple as possible and avoid providing unnecessary information if at all possible. Please let me know what you think?

[Hypnos 6,576]

You need to list all of them.

"Failure to stop" is usually a criminal offense (low grade; usually the lowest there is, depending on state) and not civil.

[Robin Mateje 0]

I don't think you need to list traffic infractions. The ones you've listed aren't any crimes involving moral turpitude. Moreover, you've paid them off so you should be all good.

[Hypnos 6,576]

I don't think you need to list traffic infractions.

The N-400 instructions disagree with your assessment.

Edited December 25, 2016 by Hypnos

[sebastianshaw 97]

Folks,

I will send my N-400 application soon.

I have three tickets: speeding (9 years ago), seat belt (12 years ago), failed to stop my Bike at stop sign (12 years ago). All were paid for promptly. I am planning to list my citations in the application and attach my DMV record which is clear as it covers the last 5 years only. However, I am not decided yet on whether or not I need to list the Biking citation. I am not sure if it is even a traffic citation or civil infraction.

I know it won't have any effect, but I like to have my application as simple as possible and avoid providing unnecessary information if at all possible. Please let me know what you think?

Page 14 instructions document mentions

"NOTE: You must submit documentation of traffic incidents if: (1) The incident involved alcohol or drugs;

(2) The incident led to an arrest; or

(3) The incident seriously injured another person."

I don't think that any of the violations the OP has posted include arrests. They are just moving violations and misdemeanors. Felonies on the other hand lead to arrest even if the charges are dropped and have to be reported.

It further mentions that "You do not need to submit documentation for traffic or incidents that did not involve an arrest or did not involve drugs or alcohol, if the only penalty was a ne of less than $500 or points on your driving record".

Further iterates what I said earlier

[sebastianshaw 97]

So in summary I don't think the OP needs to mention them

[sebastianshaw 97]

You need to list all of them.

"Failure to stop" is usually a criminal offense (low grade; usually the lowest there is, depending on state) and not civil.

It's a traffic misdemeanor, which is different from a criminal offense. had it been a criminal misdemeanor e.g. Slapping somebody in the face which is a BATTERY and a criminal misdemeanor. You would have been right.

You are right about state law, if the OP's state law would have to be verify what I said.

[Hypnos 6,576]

Not needing to provide documentation is not the same thing as not needing to mention them at all.

All that means is that you don't need to obtain or bring certified copies from the arresting agency or the court showing the final disposition. You still need to actually mention the occurrences on the N-400, however.

And yes, the precise nature of how traffic offences are termed will vary by state. In Texas, for example, most traffic offences are class C misdemeanors which are considered criminal convictions (speeding, failure to yield, failure to stop, etc.).

Edited December 25, 2016 by Hypnos

[Strumf 13]

Yes! Ask for a police report from local or county police station a report everything that you got such as tickets, convictions to the best of your knowledge.

[TBoneTX 43,058]

No. Read the instructions.