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Good afternoon,

Quick question. My current social security card states, "Valid for work only with DHS authorization". I was wondering if this will be removed if I present a conditional green card or should I wait until I've completed RoC?

Anyone have any recent experience with this? Most of the threads I've seen are years old.


Complete: AOS
Married 06/12/2014
08/02/14: Concurrent filing of i130, i485 and i765.

07/20/15: Green card received!! 

 

Current: ROC

Location: California Service Center

Package Mailed: 05/11/17

Received: 05/12/17

Money Order cashed: 05/12/17

NOA Received: 05/22/17

Biometrics Notice (dated): 5/20/17

Appt date: 06/05/17 (complete)

 

 

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Good afternoon,

Quick question. My current social security card states, "Valid for work only with DHS authorization". I was wondering if this will be removed if I present a conditional green card or should I wait until I've completed RoC?

Anyone have any recent experience with this? Most of the threads I've seen are years old.

Before you got your permanent GC you should have gotten work permit. If no, take your GC and go to first SS office and they will issue new card without that restriction.

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Before you got your permanent GC you should have gotten work permit. If no, take your GC and go to first SS office and they will issue new card without that restriction.

So the conditional greencard won't have a restriction?

Thanks for your response!


Complete: AOS
Married 06/12/2014
08/02/14: Concurrent filing of i130, i485 and i765.

07/20/15: Green card received!! 

 

Current: ROC

Location: California Service Center

Package Mailed: 05/11/17

Received: 05/12/17

Money Order cashed: 05/12/17

NOA Received: 05/22/17

Biometrics Notice (dated): 5/20/17

Appt date: 06/05/17 (complete)

 

 

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Conditional GC is just for first 2 years in case you have been married for less than 2 years. You have all rights my friend as any US Citizen but to vote. Go and change your ss card

So the conditional greencard won't have a restriction?
Thanks for your response!

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*** Thread moved from General Immigration Discussion forum to the Social Security Numbers subforum. ***


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Hi everyone,

I know this post is a little old, but not too old. I have a question too. I became a conditional green card holder two years ago, but I had always used the SS card I received when I was an F-1 student. So it has the restriction statement on it. Now I'm changing my job and the orientation is in a few weeks. I have to bring some stuff to verify employment. My green card expired two days ago, and I have the one- year extension letter from USCIS. I know that these two and my driver's license will suffice for verification purpose, but of course they need my social security card as well. I am worried that they might not accept my social security card with the statement on it, because the I-9 employment verification list the employer sent me by email says that they take social security card as employment verification document C unless there is restrictions on it. Like I said, I have enough documents already to verify employment, but will I be in trouble if my SS card still has the restriction statement? I have had many employers including the university I graduated from, and none of them cared about the restriction.

I'm worried because I went to SS administration today, and they denied my request to remove the statement just because my green card expired yesterday. I showed the one-year extension letter but they said until I get my new green card they can't change my SS card. I applied for my new green card as soon as my 90-day window opened, but I haven't got it yet, and since my green card is processed at Vermont, I probably won't get it for another three months. My orientation with the new job is in a few weeks, and the service start date is the middle of next month. I am very scared that they might not hire me over a SS card. I tried to reach my employer by phone but he didn't pick up, and he hasn't responded to my email for a few days. I'm anxious and thought I would ask here. Please tell me what you know/have experienced and your opinion about whether I will be okay! Thank you very much.

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Hi everyone,

I know this post is a little old, but not too old. I have a question too. I became a conditional green card holder two years ago, but I had always used the SS card I received when I was an F-1 student. So it has the restriction statement on it. Now I'm changing my job and the orientation is in a few weeks. I have to bring some stuff to verify employment. My green card expired two days ago, and I have the one- year extension letter from USCIS. I know that these two and my driver's license will suffice for verification purpose, but of course they need my social security card as well. I am worried that they might not accept my social security card with the statement on it, because the I-9 employment verification list the employer sent me by email says that they take social security card as employment verification document C unless there is restrictions on it. Like I said, I have enough documents already to verify employment, but will I be in trouble if my SS card still has the restriction statement? I have had many employers including the university I graduated from, and none of them cared about the restriction.

I'm worried because I went to SS administration today, and they denied my request to remove the statement just because my green card expired yesterday. I showed the one-year extension letter but they said until I get my new green card they can't change my SS card. I applied for my new green card as soon as my 90-day window opened, but I haven't got it yet, and since my green card is processed at Vermont, I probably won't get it for another three months. My orientation with the new job is in a few weeks, and the service start date is the middle of next month. I am very scared that they might not hire me over a SS card. I tried to reach my employer by phone but he didn't pick up, and he hasn't responded to my email for a few days. I'm anxious and thought I would ask here. Please tell me what you know/have experienced and your opinion about whether I will be okay! Thank you very much.

It's not a problem. Many people became citizens for many years and have never updated their Social Security information and still have a card with that restriction statement. Not having the statement is more convenient, but doesn't mean you can't work.

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Coleman21

I see that this is an active thread so let me share my experience, which is excatly the same as yours.

I had my new hire orientation on Friday....brought my expired Green Card, my extention letter, in the meantime also got approved for a Green Card( it took 5 months) so I had a letter congratulating me, and that my new card will be arriving soon, and my SSN card with a restriction on it, since I got that first, before my GC was even approved over 2 years ago...

Unfortunatelly, I was pulled out from the orientation meeting, they took my badge away they just created, and made me call USCIS to find out where my new GC is, and told me to resolve this with immigration myself, as they will not accept any of my forms and papers, untill they see a new GC. They cancelled my first day at work which is on Monday, and since I have to go through 6 weeks of training to work for this company, I am going to miss this training and the next one will start sometime in the next 6 months!

So, I could not get a hold of anyone at USCIS to check on my GC process then but I will try and find out for sure, so I was sent back home to wait for my mailman, missing the training and probably missing out a chance to work for them after going through lenghty process of 2 months to get hired, as I need to move on as well...

But, I think this is a problem with HR personnel that does not understand the immigration process nor do they understand anything about immigration laws....I noticed that cause the HR person kept telling me how I have lost my rights to get an employment, and that my extention letter probably is for instances where I was already employed....I realized she had no clue what she was reading or telling me....so I decided to investigate....

what they are doing is discriminatory towards this small group of us, that are in these situations, and who are trying to seek lawful employment in US, while in this status...

it says so in the HANDBOOK for EMPLOYERS that can be found here: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/m-274.pdf

Read through it, and try to convice the HR person to read it as well, because if they do not comply with these rules, we are allowed to file a complaint, which I plan to file on Monday, if they still refuse to accept my lawfully issued documents...

hey, maybe it was my fault that I believed that all people that have such responsible jobs like hiring someone would be more considerate, and if seeing some unknown form, to at least educate themselves, and maybe it was my fault not checking with them before hand, that now I am faced with such a dissapointment and resentment towards the company, their hr department, this goverment and office people, i simply don't know whom to blame here...

but good luck to ya!

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Hi everyone,

I know this post is a little old, but not too old. I have a question too. I became a conditional green card holder two years ago, but I had always used the SS card I received when I was an F-1 student. So it has the restriction statement on it. Now I'm changing my job and the orientation is in a few weeks. I have to bring some stuff to verify employment. My green card expired two days ago, and I have the one- year extension letter from USCIS. I know that these two and my driver's license will suffice for verification purpose, but of course they need my social security card as well. I am worried that they might not accept my social security card with the statement on it, because the I-9 employment verification list the employer sent me by email says that they take social security card as employment verification document C unless there is restrictions on it. Like I said, I have enough documents already to verify employment, but will I be in trouble if my SS card still has the restriction statement? I have had many employers including the university I graduated from, and none of them cared about the restriction.

I'm worried because I went to SS administration today, and they denied my request to remove the statement just because my green card expired yesterday. I showed the one-year extension letter but they said until I get my new green card they can't change my SS card. I applied for my new green card as soon as my 90-day window opened, but I haven't got it yet, and since my green card is processed at Vermont, I probably won't get it for another three months. My orientation with the new job is in a few weeks, and the service start date is the middle of next month. I am very scared that they might not hire me over a SS card. I tried to reach my employer by phone but he didn't pick up, and he hasn't responded to my email for a few days. I'm anxious and thought I would ask here. Please tell me what you know/have experienced and your opinion about whether I will be okay! Thank you very much.

I guess I have a few questions for you. First, how did you get a SSN while you had an F-1 visa? My husband is here on an F-1 visa and we are about to apply for his AOS and eventually get his conditional green card. I was under the impression that he could not have a SSN until we get that green card. Can you please explain the best way for him to get one?


I wrote a full detailed account of our AOS process, timeline, AP use, and interview on my blog. You can read it here.

Read our experience clearing immigration with an expired green card and extension letter here.

F-1 AOS Journey

Spoiler

10/05/15 - Mailed AOS Package (I-130, I-485, I-864, I-693, I-131, I-765, G-325As, G-1145)

10/07/15 - AOS Package delivered to Chicago Lockbox

10/14/15 - Received four NOA1s via e-mail & text notifications that USCIS received our case. Routed to National Benefits Center for processing

10/15/15 - Checks cashed

10/19/15 - Received four hard copies of NOA1s in the mail

10/23/15 - Received biometrics appointment in the mail. Scheduled for 11/03

10/26/15 - Failed early walk-in attempt for biometrics at Boston location

11/03/15 - Biometrics appointment in Boston

11/10/15 - AOS case status changed to "Ready to be scheduled for interview"

12/21/15 - EAD/AP approved

12/24/15 - EAD/AP mailed

12/30/15 - EAD/AP delivered

03/17/16 - Interview scheduled for April 20th

04/20/16 - AOS Inteview - Boston, MA - APPROVED!

04/25/16 - Approval notice received in the mail

04/26/16 - Green card mailed

04/29/16 - Green card delivered

 

ROC

Spoiler

02/20/18 - Mailed I-751 Package

02/23/18 - I-751 delivered to CSC

02/28/18 - Check cashed

03/02/18 - NOA1 received in the mail

05/12/18 - Notice that previous biometrics will be reused

08/24/18 - Received 18 month extension letter

 

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I guess I have a few questions for you. First, how did you get a SSN while you had an F-1 visa? My husband is here on an F-1 visa and we are about to apply for his AOS and eventually get his conditional green card. I was under the impression that he could not have a SSN until we get that green card. Can you please explain the best way for him to get one?

Anyone who can work can get an SSN (and needs an SSN to be able to be paid). F-1 students can work in the following situations:

  • On-campus. In this case, take the employment offer to apply for an SSN
  • CPT. In this case, bring the I-20 showing CPT to apply for an SSN
  • OPT. In this case, bring the EAD to apply for an SSN
  • EAD based on economic hardship. In this case, bring the EAD to apply for an SSN

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Coleman21

I see that this is an active thread so let me share my experience, which is excatly the same as yours.

I had my new hire orientation on Friday....brought my expired Green Card, my extention letter, in the meantime also got approved for a Green Card( it took 5 months) so I had a letter congratulating me, and that my new card will be arriving soon, and my SSN card with a restriction on it, since I got that first, before my GC was even approved over 2 years ago...

Unfortunatelly, I was pulled out from the orientation meeting, they took my badge away they just created, and made me call USCIS to find out where my new GC is, and told me to resolve this with immigration myself, as they will not accept any of my forms and papers, untill they see a new GC. They cancelled my first day at work which is on Monday, and since I have to go through 6 weeks of training to work for this company, I am going to miss this training and the next one will start sometime in the next 6 months!

So, I could not get a hold of anyone at USCIS to check on my GC process then but I will try and find out for sure, so I was sent back home to wait for my mailman, missing the training and probably missing out a chance to work for them after going through lenghty process of 2 months to get hired, as I need to move on as well...

But, I think this is a problem with HR personnel that does not understand the immigration process nor do they understand anything about immigration laws....I noticed that cause the HR person kept telling me how I have lost my rights to get an employment, and that my extention letter probably is for instances where I was already employed....I realized she had no clue what she was reading or telling me....so I decided to investigate....

what they are doing is discriminatory towards this small group of us, that are in these situations, and who are trying to seek lawful employment in US, while in this status...

it says so in the HANDBOOK for EMPLOYERS that can be found here: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/m-274.pdf

Read through it, and try to convice the HR person to read it as well, because if they do not comply with these rules, we are allowed to file a complaint, which I plan to file on Monday, if they still refuse to accept my lawfully issued documents...

hey, maybe it was my fault that I believed that all people that have such responsible jobs like hiring someone would be more considerate, and if seeing some unknown form, to at least educate themselves, and maybe it was my fault not checking with them before hand, that now I am faced with such a dissapointment and resentment towards the company, their hr department, this goverment and office people, i simply don't know whom to blame here...

but good luck to ya!

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I am so sorry I read your message just now! I'm also very sorry to hear what you went through. I was lucky in my case, and I was able to attend my orientation and am now training.

To tell you what heppend, I work for national program, so the HR process was more complicated, and people in the office that deals with enrollment didn't seem to know much about immigration, like you said. OMG there are so many people who don't know about immigration! I don't blame them though because I don't know much about immigration in my home country; I only know immigration in US because I went through it myself. But really, employers should have regular contacts with USCIS to know who they can hire and who they can't! Anyways, people on the phone would say my documents are good at first, but when I ask them to confirm it with their boss, the answer would be no, because I had to be PERMANENT resident, not conditional. But the website only says permanent residents can get this job, and not talk about anything about conditional green card holders. So I had to explain that a conditinoal green card holder was also a PERMANENT resident, even my card says I am a permanent resident, and then the person on the phone would say I should be okay. I called state office too, and they would just say that as long as I meet the necessary documents I am fine. But my boss had never seen my documents, so they wanted to make sure. I-9 doesn't mention the one year extension letter, that's why. My boss asked me to call social security, but when I did, they couldn't asnwer if I can be hired or not. They did say verifying my immigration status may not be possible because my card has the restriction statement, which meant that the social security administration doesn't recognize me as a permanent resident. SS told me to call the upper office that's connected to the social security, but it was a machine that talked to me, and I had to press some numbers on the keypad, otherwise they would end the call. But when I finally finished choosing options, they connected me back to SS!!! So I called Department of Labor, and they told me I had to call USCIS. I knew it! But when I talked with my boss, she had told me that it was SS, not USCIS that would match up my documents and see if I can be hired. Anyways, I called USCIS after all, and the lady's attitude was as if to say, "Why are you calling us about this? We already assured you in the letter that you can be employed." So I emailed my national program everything I did, and a few days later I received an email saying that they got some clarification that I should be ok but that if new information becomes available I might not be able to continue to work. UGH! But, they also said they were hopeful that would not happen, so I started my training last week like everybody else. Today my boss said that my documents went through (she had to do it electronically, rather than contacting a human like normal employers would do), and I received an email from the national office that I am now enrolled (officially). I still hope I can get my 10 year green card as soon as possible though, so if anything happens I can present the actual card and nobody will be disatisfied, you know? So it took you just 5 months to get yours? I see that Vermont office usually takes 5 months, but a lot of people here seem to have got theirs 7 months after applying. I applied last May, and USCIS told me that if I don't hear from them till November I can call them.

Also, thank you for the link! I will save it for future reference, since I don't know when I will come across similar conflict again!!!


I guess I have a few questions for you. First, how did you get a SSN while you had an F-1 visa? My husband is here on an F-1 visa and we are about to apply for his AOS and eventually get his conditional green card. I was under the impression that he could not have a SSN until we get that green card. Can you please explain the best way for him to get one?

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Hi, Sean and Kristina,

Newacct said everything, but I just wanted to let you know that the easiest way to get SSN while on F-1 is to work on campus, which is what I did. Keep in mind that if you get SSN to work on campus, you cannot work anywhere else, just on campus. The exception is when you apply for permission to work off campus based on financial hardship, but I do NOT recommend this. You are about to apply for AOS, which means that you are required to prove that you have more than minimum income USCIS lists. If you are supporting your husband, who is to become an immigrant, as you are supposed to, he shouldn't be in economic hardship in USICS's eyes. On the other hand, if your husband can work on campus not just now but also while waiting for the green card to be approved, you can add your husband's on-campus income to your income, which makes it easier for you to meet the minimum income. If your combined income is still low, don't worry because you can have a joint sponsor, like your parent or someone who is a US citizen and has minimum income as USCIS states. In my case, I knew that I couldn't work on campus during the summer, which was exactly when I was waiting for my case to be approved, and wasn't sure if I was going to work again once the summer ended, so my husband didn't add my income. In fact, he didn't have income himself back then, so we put 0 on his form and had his stepfather be our joint sponsor, and his income only was the only way to get approved financial-wise, which fortunately worked.

It seems like I did a very bad job quoting on this thread.. I was replying to another person earlier but looks like I have quoted your message to reply to a different person. Sorry about the confusion!

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P.S.Whatever option your husband chooses, make sure he contacts his international student office or equivalent before obtaining SSN. They will tell him what documents he needs and all. My college had a very good international student office, and they took all international students who needed to get SSN card to the SS center, and helped us with all the process. Your husband's school may be like that too. If so, take full advantage of it, because SS center people tend to like making things difficult, but will listen to international student officers because they know that they know very well.

Also, if your husband works on campus, he may start working before obtaining SSN, which was my case. He will get paid after obtaining his SSN card, but can work and accumulate hours so once he gets the card he will get paid accordingly.

Once he gets a conditional green card, make sure he goes to the SS center and have the restriction statement removed because I've had enough with that!!

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