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Hi All,

My Marriage certificate was issued from Kerala,India.This certificate issued by the government is in English.

Attested copy of the same was attached with my i-130 application.

But I got an RFE for marriage certificate, stating that they need the certificate in my native language.

Kindly suggest on how to respond to this RFE?

Thanks in Advance.

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It is possible to respond to an RFE explaining that a document cannot be submitted. What you need to do is write an explanatory letter that details:

1) that your marriage certificate was issued in English, and there is NOT a marriage certificate in your native language

2) some sort of "proof" (copy of webpage, paper document) from Kerala that shows that they only issue original certificates in English.

Then state that you have provided your original certificate, which is in English, and that it is impossible to present a certificate in your native language, because it does not exist.

It would really be helpful if you can show that Kerala does NOT issue certificates in something other than English.

We had to do a similar thing for a police certificate for our case. I photocopied numerous web pages from official web pages that explained why we could not produce a particular Police Certificate. We were approved.

Good luck to you!

Sukie in NY


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Hi All,

My Marriage certificate was issued from Kerala,India.This certificate issued by the government is in English.

Attested copy of the same was attached with my i-130 application.

But I got an RFE for marriage certificate, stating that they need the certificate in my native language.

Kindly suggest on how to respond to this RFE?

Thanks in Advance.

I know India is not China, but in China GongZhengChu (government office) issues

the certificates (marriage, birth, police) in both Chinese and English.

Does India only offer English only certificate? Or are you able to get both

Indian and English (translated) certificate?

Certainly, they process many visa requests for India,

and for them to ask for this, they must know that this is available?

You might want to confirm with other India visa filers,

and perhaps even check with the place where they issued the certificate

and see what's available.

I wouldn't be too quick to just to reply to RFE with explanation

without looking into this.

Last year, I went through dozens of rejection reasons on USCIS web site somewhere

(which I can't find now), and I was surprised to see many rejections were due to

people sending in same (or insufficient) evidence to the RFE twice in a row.

Not trying to scare you...but do some more digging before you just jump to replying to them...


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12-24-2013 USCIS assigns Alien Registration Number
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06-02-2014 USCIS web site shows NOA #2 approval
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mathewr, I was married in kerala as well and like you stated, my marriage certificate was in English. USCIS (Texas) didn't RFE for that (or anything else) in my case.

I think if you explain that the certificate is only available in English they will understand. I'm not sure what you included as bonafides in your original application- it may help to add some more bonafides in your follow up. Best of luck!

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mathewr, you probably have just run into a CO who has looked up the information for "India" and hasn't ever dealt with someone who married in Kerala. Unfortunately, it happens like this.

For us, even though there could not be a police certificate for us from a particular state in Australia, I was told I still had to reply to the RFE. Even though it was NVC's misinterpretation of the Australian rules.

Good luck!

Sukie in NY


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18-Feb-2018 - submitted N-400 online, credit card charged

18-Feb-2018 - NOA1

12-Mar-2018 - Biometrics 

18-June-2018 - Notice of interview received

26-July-2018 - Interview  - APPROVED!!!

26-July-2018 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled

17-Aug-2018 - Oath Ceremony

 

 

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I know India is not China, but in China GongZhengChu (government office) issues

the certificates (marriage, birth, police) in both Chinese and English.

Does India only offer English only certificate? Or are you able to get both

Indian and English (translated) certificate?

Certainly, they process many visa requests for India,

and for them to ask for this, they must know that this is available?

You might want to confirm with other India visa filers,

and perhaps even check with the place where they issued the certificate

and see what's available.

I wouldn't be too quick to just to reply to RFE with explanation

without looking into this.

Last year, I went through dozens of rejection reasons on USCIS web site somewhere

(which I can't find now), and I was surprised to see many rejections were due to

people sending in same (or insufficient) evidence to the RFE twice in a row.

Not trying to scare you...but do some more digging before you just jump to replying to them...

Yes, i am checking with the local municipal corporation if i can get me some document to prove that they only provide document in english.

mathewr, I was married in kerala as well and like you stated, my marriage certificate was in English. USCIS (Texas) didn't RFE for that (or anything else) in my case.

I think if you explain that the certificate is only available in English they will understand. I'm not sure what you included as bonafides in your original application- it may help to add some more bonafides in your follow up. Best of luck!

Yes, some even one of my friend who applied didnt get an RFE on this, thats why i was confused when i got it.

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mathewr, you probably have just run into a CO who has looked up the information for "India" and hasn't ever dealt with someone who married in Kerala. Unfortunately, it happens like this.

For us, even though there could not be a police certificate for us from a particular state in Australia, I was told I still had to reply to the RFE. Even though it was NVC's misinterpretation of the Australian rules.

Good luck!

Sukie in NY

Yes, might have :) . Just wanted to find out if someone else have encountered similar kind of an RFE.

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States have different rules in India. There are two marriage-related documents; marriage certificate (religious), and marriage registry (govt).

When I married in Chandigarh last year, the temple issued a native language marriage certificate, which was required to register our marriage by the state govt.

Our I-130 was recently approved with just the copy of the state govt-issued english marriage registry, without any RFEs.


USCIS

January 16, 2015 I-130 Mailed, Chi lockbox January 20, 2015 Priority Date, January 21, 2015 NOA1 notice date, Assigned VSC, January 23, 2015 Check Cashed, electronically March 5, 2015 NOA2

NVC

March 27, 2015 NVC received April 6, 2015 Case#, IIN# assigned April 8, 2015 Paid AOS + IV fee Invoices May 5, 2015 AOS + IV package submitted May 11, 2015 Scan Date

June 11, 2015 DS-260 submitted June 25, 2015 False checklist (for ds260).. hello? June 30, 2015 Answered checklist Aug 5, 2015 Escalated to Supervisor review Aug 13, 2015 Case Complete

Consular

Sept 10, 2015 Interview Scheduled Sept 11, 2015 P4 Letter received Sept 21, 2015 file In transit from NVC Sept 23, 2015 file at Embassy

Sept 28, 2015 Medical Oct 14, 2015 Biometrics Oct 15, 2015 Interview (Approved) Oct 19, 2015 IV visa Issued Oct 23, 2015 Passport Pickup

POE

Nov 2, 2015 Entered the US Nov 16, 2015 Applied for SSN, walk-in Nov 20, 2015 Social Security Card recd Jan 15, 2016 GC received

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Thanks Everyone..

Our Case was approved based on the RFE response that we gave.

In the response we explained that the state issues certificates only in english and also attached screenshots from kerala state goverment as a proof.

thanks,

mathewr

Congratulations, mathewr!!! Great job in helping NVC understand the process!

Sukie in NY


Spoiler

 

Spoiler

Our Prior Journey

N-400 Naturalization

18-Feb-2018 - submitted N-400 online, credit card charged

18-Feb-2018 - NOA1

12-Mar-2018 - Biometrics 

18-June-2018 - Notice of interview received

26-July-2018 - Interview  - APPROVED!!!

26-July-2018 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled

17-Aug-2018 - Oath Ceremony

 

 

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