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i864 & i864A: Difference between Sponsor & Petitioner?

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Hi everyone!



My wife and I were married and currently live in Shanghai. I do not have a domicile in the US of which I am the core renter or title-holder. I don't even have a job there yet. Therefore, I need my father's help for the Affidavit of Support. But in this process, who is who, and who needs to fill out what? Question-time. Which of the following four scenarios is most accurate?



  1. I-A.) My father is the sponsor who would have to fill out a i-864 (and submit proofs of necessary income), and my mother (who lives with him) is a FMWSH (Family member within same household) who must provide consent (via submitting her own i-864-A) to let her husband financially back someone.




  2. I-B.) My father is the sponsor who would have to fill out a i-864 (and submit proofs of necessary income), and my mother (who lives with him) is a FMWSH who must provide consent (via submitting her own i-864-A) to let her husband financially back someone. ...AND... I (as petitioner), need to also fill out an i-864-A and state my plan to live in their domicile upon repatriation.




  3. I-C.) I am both the petitioner and sponsor (i-864), and I am to state my intention to live in the same domicile of my father, a FMWSH who must fill out the i-864-A (and submit proofs of necessary income)?




  4. I-D.) I am both the petitioner and sponsor (i-864), who states a plan to live in the same domicile of my father, a FMWSH who must fill out the i-864-A (and submit proofs of necessary income), and my mother is ALSO a FMWSH, who must provide consent (via submitting her own i-864-A) to let her husband financially back someone.



Thanks so much!


E & M


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Hi,

Instead of picking one of the four as "most accurate," here is the accurate answer.

You are the petitioner/sponsor, you file an I-864.

Your father is the Joint Sponsor, he filed his own I-864.

Your mother is your father's household member, she filed an I-864a.

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So even though I have zero proof of money/income and zero proof of having a home, I am still considered a "petitioner/SPONSOR", and not just a petitioner only?

Yes, by filling out the form, you are indicating your financial sponsorship capability,

in this case little to none, and hence why you are including the joint sponsor.

As long as your father can (at least on paper for now) cover the entire household,

including you, your wife, and any children, this part should be OK.

And I'm pretty sure once you get to US, you and wife will eventually work to

support yourselves.


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Also domicile, and sponsorship are not synonymous. You still need to prove intent to reestablish domicile within the USA.


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As long as your father can (at least on paper for now) cover the entire household,

including you, your wife, and any children, this part should be OK.

The OP would not be included in his father's household count. Father's household count would be him, his wife, and the OP's spouse.


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