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Some discussion here from time to time regarding moving back to Great Britain.

Here are the new rules. Read 'em and weep.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/news/soi-fam-mig.pdf

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You think it should be higher?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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I think its madness. You now have to earn £18600 a year to bring a spouse etc in. So.. I cant bring my husband to this country, but somebody from another European country can bring theirs.

We applied under the human rights act when my husband came here. Because we didnt meet the requirements but now that doesnt even count for much. So when it comes to renewing his visa (in 1 year 9 months) he would have to leave. Hence us moving to the US.

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I think its madness. You now have to earn £18600 a year to bring a spouse etc in. So.. I cant bring my husband to this country, but somebody from another European country can bring theirs.

We applied under the human rights act when my husband came here. Because we didnt meet the requirements but now that doesnt even count for much. So when it comes to renewing his visa (in 1 year 9 months) he would have to leave. Hence us moving to the US.

Holly, if he is already there on a spousal visa then the old rules apply. He would be grandfathered in like my daughter and myself. The new rules are horrible...I know a few people that are crushed because there is no way they can meet the new requirements. I don't think the population as a whole really understands what this means. People are going to have to make some really tough choices.

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The requirement are very similar to the US system.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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The requirement are very similar to the US system.

Not at all. There is no option for a co-sponsor. To move to US as a two person family requires an income of approximately £12,000, not £18,600. In the US there is no option to bypass the system if their partner is a European national. The instructions on this are also terribly written, UKBA has a thing or two to learn from USCIS.

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Not at all. There is no option for a co-sponsor. To move to US as a two person family requires an income of approximately £12,000, not £18,600. In the US there is no option to bypass the system if their partner is a European national. The instructions on this are also terribly written, UKBA has a thing or two to learn from USCIS.

I may be wrong, I have only read the headlines, but I do not think there is an obligation to repay HMG for any benefits as there is in the US?

Not quite right about European Nationals but that is not relevant anyway.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Holly, if he is already there on a spousal visa then the old rules apply. He would be grandfathered in like my daughter and myself. The new rules are horrible...I know a few people that are crushed because there is no way they can meet the new requirements. I don't think the population as a whole really understands what this means. People are going to have to make some really tough choices.

He isnt on a spousal visa. We had to apply under human rights because the age for spousal visas was 21 at that time but i was only 18. And thats one of the types of visa theyre pretty much getting rid of now. So unless we could make £18600 a year soon, theres no chance. Plus we havent been able to find work at all. Our move was prompted by a few things really, not just the new immigration rules. My husband was offered his old job back in the US with a pay rise. So stay here with no job, or move and take his old one back. Seemed like a no brainer. He hated it in the UK too.

Im glad you and your daughter are going to benefit from the old rules :)

I dont think a lot of people, except the ones it is going to directly affect really understand what it means. They all think "Less immigrants stealing out jobs!" But it is really not like that at all and is going to tear apart a lot of families.

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05-11-2012 : I-130 Delivered and signed for at Embassy
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08-10-2012 : LND Case number received. Letter dated 08-07-2012
08-15-2012 : DS-230 and DS-2001 mailed to Embassy
08-23-2012 : Medical
09-14-2012 : Emailed Embassy and confirmed DS forms have finally been logged (After 29 days)
09-22-2012 : Interview letter received. Dated September 19th.
10-03-2012 : Interview - Approved!
NOA1 to Interview - 138 days.
10-10-2012 : Passport with Visa delivered two hours late at 8pm.
10-22-2012 : POE Philadelphia
11-15-2012 : Green Card received in mail
12-11-2012 : Went to the Social Security office to apply for SSN after it did not arrive.
12-15-2012 : SSN Arrived in 4 days.

05-09-2013 : Left USC Husband.
11-28-2013: Filed for divorce.

05-01-2014: Divorced

05-08-2014: Sent I-751 petition to VSC

05-13-2014: NOA1 (was not postmarked until 5/22/14 and received on 5/24/14)
06-18-2014: Biometrics in St. Albans, VT

11-21-2014: RFE. Received on 11/24/14.

01-22-2015: Interview notice mailed out. Received 1/26/15

02-12-2015: Interview in St Albans, VT - Approved during interview!

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I may be wrong, I have only read the headlines, but I do not think there is an obligation to repay HMG for any benefits as there is in the US?

Not quite right about European Nationals but that is not relevant anyway.

No there is not. Simply because a lot of visas leave you ineligible to receive benefits. So there is nothing to pay back.

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07-01-2011 : Married

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05-11-2012 : I-130 Delivered and signed for at Embassy
05-18-2012 : NOA1 Email
07-26-2012 : NOA2 (69 days)
07-28-2012 : NOA2 hard copy received
08-10-2012 : LND Case number received. Letter dated 08-07-2012
08-15-2012 : DS-230 and DS-2001 mailed to Embassy
08-23-2012 : Medical
09-14-2012 : Emailed Embassy and confirmed DS forms have finally been logged (After 29 days)
09-22-2012 : Interview letter received. Dated September 19th.
10-03-2012 : Interview - Approved!
NOA1 to Interview - 138 days.
10-10-2012 : Passport with Visa delivered two hours late at 8pm.
10-22-2012 : POE Philadelphia
11-15-2012 : Green Card received in mail
12-11-2012 : Went to the Social Security office to apply for SSN after it did not arrive.
12-15-2012 : SSN Arrived in 4 days.

05-09-2013 : Left USC Husband.
11-28-2013: Filed for divorce.

05-01-2014: Divorced

05-08-2014: Sent I-751 petition to VSC

05-13-2014: NOA1 (was not postmarked until 5/22/14 and received on 5/24/14)
06-18-2014: Biometrics in St. Albans, VT

11-21-2014: RFE. Received on 11/24/14.

01-22-2015: Interview notice mailed out. Received 1/26/15

02-12-2015: Interview in St Albans, VT - Approved during interview!

CRBA
08-16-2012 : CRBA in London for our daughter - Approved!
09-11-2012 : CRBA and Passport arrived.
09-25-2012 : SSN Arrived. Mailed from MD on 09-17-2012

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:wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

I may be wrong, I have only read the headlines, but I do not think there is an obligation to repay HMG for any benefits as there is in the US?

Not quite right about European Nationals but that is not relevant anyway.

Not quite right? European Nationals can move to the UK, I know people who have done it. What are you trying to say? That there is a provision for people from a certain countries to move to the US with no visa like there is in the UK? There is not.

There is no obligation to repay benefits because the income/savings thresholds are so high that the family would not be eligible for income based benefits. You should try reading it rather than the headlines, you might learn something.

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I dont think a lot of people, except the ones it is going to directly affect really understand what it means. They all think "Less immigrants stealing out jobs!" But it is really not like that at all and is going to tear apart a lot of families.

Agreed, I can move back to the UK with our child but I can't return with my husband. Britain seems set on destroying families. My husband and I were waiting to be married for 4 years before thinking about moving back so that we could get ILR but that rule has been abolished so we waited for nothing.

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Not quite right? European Nationals can move to the UK, I know people who have done it. What are you trying to say? That there is a provision for people from a certain countries to move to the US with no visa like there is in the UK? There is not.

There is no obligation to repay benefits because the income/savings thresholds are so high that the family would not be eligible for income based benefits. You should try reading it rather than the headlines, you might learn something.

This is correct! European nationals can freely live and work in the UK. The only restriction they have, is claiming benefits. They have to live here a certain number of months (Not sure how many) before they are eligible.

Agreed, I can move back to the UK with our child but I can't return with my husband. Britain seems set on destroying families. My husband and I were waiting to be married for 4 years before thinking about moving back so that we could get ILR but that rule has been abolished so we waited for nothing.

I think its completely out of order. I know that there have to be restrictions, but these rules were clearly made by somebody who knows very little about what people go through to be with their family members from abroad. I hate to say it, but im ashamed that my country will just destroy family units just for a few numbers.

I heard about this in the beginning on the news. They were doing that little argument thing they always do about changes, yet nobody was even making any sense out of it. They were just rambling on about numbers and not once did the affect on UK citizens come into it.

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07-01-2011 : Married

05-10-2012 : I-130 Mailed to London (DCF)
05-11-2012 : I-130 Delivered and signed for at Embassy
05-18-2012 : NOA1 Email
07-26-2012 : NOA2 (69 days)
07-28-2012 : NOA2 hard copy received
08-10-2012 : LND Case number received. Letter dated 08-07-2012
08-15-2012 : DS-230 and DS-2001 mailed to Embassy
08-23-2012 : Medical
09-14-2012 : Emailed Embassy and confirmed DS forms have finally been logged (After 29 days)
09-22-2012 : Interview letter received. Dated September 19th.
10-03-2012 : Interview - Approved!
NOA1 to Interview - 138 days.
10-10-2012 : Passport with Visa delivered two hours late at 8pm.
10-22-2012 : POE Philadelphia
11-15-2012 : Green Card received in mail
12-11-2012 : Went to the Social Security office to apply for SSN after it did not arrive.
12-15-2012 : SSN Arrived in 4 days.

05-09-2013 : Left USC Husband.
11-28-2013: Filed for divorce.

05-01-2014: Divorced

05-08-2014: Sent I-751 petition to VSC

05-13-2014: NOA1 (was not postmarked until 5/22/14 and received on 5/24/14)
06-18-2014: Biometrics in St. Albans, VT

11-21-2014: RFE. Received on 11/24/14.

01-22-2015: Interview notice mailed out. Received 1/26/15

02-12-2015: Interview in St Albans, VT - Approved during interview!

CRBA
08-16-2012 : CRBA in London for our daughter - Approved!
09-11-2012 : CRBA and Passport arrived.
09-25-2012 : SSN Arrived. Mailed from MD on 09-17-2012

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So what benefits can a for example US Spouse not obtain in the UK?

The US has options limited to particular Nationals, DV, TN E3 come to mind.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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