LoveMyMiky

This all seems really kind of ridiculous, not to mention the hurt it is causing us and loved ones. Unfortunately we are at the mercy of a government to grant access to someone(s) we love. In actuality, this is not 60 days from receipt of NAO2 instructions by the NVC (or number generated by the NVC) extending to embassy interview which appears the NVC would like you to compare to its past performance. The NVC I believe is portraying it 30 days more than the prior average when the timing is more like 4-5 months. It appears the folks on the board are considering days from the package receipt to an interview being set up as the 60 days, which apparently is how long it is taking. When I went through the process 4 years ago with my wife it was about 45 days from beginning to end. Unfortunately it appears this is something we got to suck up as far as more time, and quite Frankly, the NVC was supposed to be the easy part, and I was truly taken back when the 60 day letter was received, despite a genuine effort and knowing that we are dealing with the USA. Where it should not take 5 months to look at a couple pieces of paper, especially after it took 7 months to year to look at the same stuff prior! I would love anyone to debate the current timing based on the input of others to show it to be less, less time would certainly help make my family feel better and I am sure a whole bunch of other folks going through the same!

Kathryn, Respectfully, the original post is a mockery, inappropriate, and provoking to readers who really know what hardship is. Why not remove it!

What a ridiculous misguided post from apparently someone who thinks he’s a Russian Love expert who by all indications doesn’t have a clue about Russian woman, their real intentions or culture from which they come. Russian women as a whole are far from stupid in identifying a winner or loser who trolls under the masquerade of love and a promise to marry with a ticket to the US.

What a ridiculous misguided post from apparently someone who thinks he’s a Russian Love expert who by all indications doesn’t have a clue about Russian woman, their real intentions or culture from which they come. Russian women as a whole are far from stupid in identifying a winner or loser who trolls under the masquerade of love and a promise to marry with a ticket to the US.

OP, hang in there, looking like your wait is almost over. Once approved, you guys will be bombarded by a whole new set of issues and tasks that will make the wait seem smaller than it is now --- as it has for so many others who have gone through the process.
I find it amazing that some feel it is their place to accuse another for their feelings…
And those who have forgotten how it felt during their time spent in the waiting game…
Or those who have blessed themselves as experts on what exactly occurs behind the walls of USCIS…
And those who spend their time lambasting another for their opinions when they themselves are clueless…
Or those who just want to feel like somebody by belittling another who has expressed their frustration.
There are some really helpful folks in this community who have some great advice and meaningful opinions… and then there are others who think they are immigration pros behind a keyboard dishing out narrow minded, misguided opinions and thinking everyone should think like them… after all, they filed and eventually got approved.

OP, hang in there, looking like your wait is almost over. Once approved, you guys will be bombarded by a whole new set of issues and tasks that will make the wait seem smaller than it is now --- as it has for so many others who have gone through the process.
I find it amazing that some feel it is their place to accuse another for their feelings…
And those who have forgotten how it felt during their time spent in the waiting game…
Or those who have blessed themselves as experts on what exactly occurs behind the walls of USCIS…
And those who spend their time lambasting another for their opinions when they themselves are clueless…
Or those who just want to feel like somebody by belittling another who has expressed their frustration.
There are some really helpful folks in this community who have some great advice and meaningful opinions… and then there are others who think they are immigration pros behind a keyboard dishing out narrow minded, misguided opinions and thinking everyone should think like them… after all, they filed and eventually got approved.

OP, hang in there, looking like your wait is almost over. Once approved, you guys will be bombarded by a whole new set of issues and tasks that will make the wait seem smaller than it is now --- as it has for so many others who have gone through the process.
I find it amazing that some feel it is their place to accuse another for their feelings…
And those who have forgotten how it felt during their time spent in the waiting game…
Or those who have blessed themselves as experts on what exactly occurs behind the walls of USCIS…
And those who spend their time lambasting another for their opinions when they themselves are clueless…
Or those who just want to feel like somebody by belittling another who has expressed their frustration.
There are some really helpful folks in this community who have some great advice and meaningful opinions… and then there are others who think they are immigration pros behind a keyboard dishing out narrow minded, misguided opinions and thinking everyone should think like them… after all, they filed and eventually got approved.

OP, hang in there, looking like your wait is almost over. Once approved, you guys will be bombarded by a whole new set of issues and tasks that will make the wait seem smaller than it is now --- as it has for so many others who have gone through the process.
I find it amazing that some feel it is their place to accuse another for their feelings…
And those who have forgotten how it felt during their time spent in the waiting game…
Or those who have blessed themselves as experts on what exactly occurs behind the walls of USCIS…
And those who spend their time lambasting another for their opinions when they themselves are clueless…
Or those who just want to feel like somebody by belittling another who has expressed their frustration.
There are some really helpful folks in this community who have some great advice and meaningful opinions… and then there are others who think they are immigration pros behind a keyboard dishing out narrow minded, misguided opinions and thinking everyone should think like them… after all, they filed and eventually got approved.

This appears to be a case to where the length of K1 process has benefited your relationship as apparently your true colors came shining through. As I see it, her father did what a father should have done. His daughter was about to embark on a journey on the other side of the world with what was thought to be with a man of courage, understanding and compassion for his daughter. What he found was a whining individual who thought it was more important he receive a valentines (???) than understand the heart felt, gut wrenching feelings, of parents and daughter who were about to be separated.
Suspect this type of immature “me, me, me” behavior showed up elsewhere during the K1 wait, tearing at the threads of the relationship and the ultimate decision to leave family and country to immigrate.
This thread will probably be shut down, as I would expect others have little tolerance in holding back on giving straightforward observations and advice. For those who have suggested you “ignore the members who tell you to man up” sorry to say, in my opinion, they are misleading you in an attempt to comfort you. I would respectfully suggest you let it go and move on and don’t attempt to make further contact with her or her family. It appears, you are clearly not the only one in this relationship that has been hurt by shattered dreams.

This appears to be a case to where the length of K1 process has benefited your relationship as apparently your true colors came shining through. As I see it, her father did what a father should have done. His daughter was about to embark on a journey on the other side of the world with what was thought to be with a man of courage, understanding and compassion for his daughter. What he found was a whining individual who thought it was more important he receive a valentines (???) than understand the heart felt, gut wrenching feelings, of parents and daughter who were about to be separated.
Suspect this type of immature “me, me, me” behavior showed up elsewhere during the K1 wait, tearing at the threads of the relationship and the ultimate decision to leave family and country to immigrate.
This thread will probably be shut down, as I would expect others have little tolerance in holding back on giving straightforward observations and advice. For those who have suggested you “ignore the members who tell you to man up” sorry to say, in my opinion, they are misleading you in an attempt to comfort you. I would respectfully suggest you let it go and move on and don’t attempt to make further contact with her or her family. It appears, you are clearly not the only one in this relationship that has been hurt by shattered dreams.

This appears to be a case to where the length of K1 process has benefited your relationship as apparently your true colors came shining through. As I see it, her father did what a father should have done. His daughter was about to embark on a journey on the other side of the world with what was thought to be with a man of courage, understanding and compassion for his daughter. What he found was a whining individual who thought it was more important he receive a valentines (???) than understand the heart felt, gut wrenching feelings, of parents and daughter who were about to be separated.
Suspect this type of immature “me, me, me” behavior showed up elsewhere during the K1 wait, tearing at the threads of the relationship and the ultimate decision to leave family and country to immigrate.
This thread will probably be shut down, as I would expect others have little tolerance in holding back on giving straightforward observations and advice. For those who have suggested you “ignore the members who tell you to man up” sorry to say, in my opinion, they are misleading you in an attempt to comfort you. I would respectfully suggest you let it go and move on and don’t attempt to make further contact with her or her family. It appears, you are clearly not the only one in this relationship that has been hurt by shattered dreams.

This appears to be a case to where the length of K1 process has benefited your relationship as apparently your true colors came shining through. As I see it, her father did what a father should have done. His daughter was about to embark on a journey on the other side of the world with what was thought to be with a man of courage, understanding and compassion for his daughter. What he found was a whining individual who thought it was more important he receive a valentines (???) than understand the heart felt, gut wrenching feelings, of parents and daughter who were about to be separated.
Suspect this type of immature “me, me, me” behavior showed up elsewhere during the K1 wait, tearing at the threads of the relationship and the ultimate decision to leave family and country to immigrate.
This thread will probably be shut down, as I would expect others have little tolerance in holding back on giving straightforward observations and advice. For those who have suggested you “ignore the members who tell you to man up” sorry to say, in my opinion, they are misleading you in an attempt to comfort you. I would respectfully suggest you let it go and move on and don’t attempt to make further contact with her or her family. It appears, you are clearly not the only one in this relationship that has been hurt by shattered dreams.

This appears to be a case to where the length of K1 process has benefited your relationship as apparently your true colors came shining through. As I see it, her father did what a father should have done. His daughter was about to embark on a journey on the other side of the world with what was thought to be with a man of courage, understanding and compassion for his daughter. What he found was a whining individual who thought it was more important he receive a valentines (???) than understand the heart felt, gut wrenching feelings, of parents and daughter who were about to be separated.
Suspect this type of immature “me, me, me” behavior showed up elsewhere during the K1 wait, tearing at the threads of the relationship and the ultimate decision to leave family and country to immigrate.
This thread will probably be shut down, as I would expect others have little tolerance in holding back on giving straightforward observations and advice. For those who have suggested you “ignore the members who tell you to man up” sorry to say, in my opinion, they are misleading you in an attempt to comfort you. I would respectfully suggest you let it go and move on and don’t attempt to make further contact with her or her family. It appears, you are clearly not the only one in this relationship that has been hurt by shattered dreams.

Hi I am his ex finacee. I am not going to write whether i'm right or wrong but yes i will just put down how behaved with me post NOA2.
The night we received the NOA2, we both were jumping and expressing our happiness, I went running to my parents to tell them 'we have done it at last.'They were happy too.
2nd day i was little upset for something that happened in my family and i was not being able to show how happy i am,but later i kept telling him 'i am happy but somehow its sad out here' I am leaving now,this feeling is making me sad but i am happy i will finally live with u. 3rd day,he called me from office and i spoke in normal tone,not happy not sad,i dont know what went wrong he screamed from the parking lot 'im tired of your ###### sadness,your ###### sadness' and also some slang he used on me in my mother tongue,this was my first shock.I don't know this man,never lived with him, so of course i kept telling him i am scared of u, he said he is sorry, i said ill be really scared if u scream like this when we fight in person (trust me it was not normal scream,he was at the top of his lung in a public place and over the phone with me, and the reason being I AM NOT SHOWING HIM EXCITEMENT) well, i was happy but tensed for 'n' number of reason which the petitioners here won't understand much but the beneficiaries who r leaving for good might.He told me if he ever gets angry and wants to shout in person he would leave the house and go out.I mean its not too normal for Indians here.
Later we made up and again he started with same topic i am not showing him excitement, i felt getting mentally tortured when he was doing this, i was going to office, he knew it i am going to office and i am howling requesting him to hang up,but he won't his only statement was 'don't go to office, its not a good day for u to go to office',he doesn't need to show me concern after he had made me cry already,he need not do it at all.I might not have reacted how HE WANTED me to react,but he can't deny,everyday i told him i was happy that we got NOA2. I just couldn't explain it to him till end,when i asked my mom to tell him that i was happy.My mom made him understand that 'she is happy but may be she is little scared to leave for good now,she will be actually happy when she will meet u and start her life for good'. He then understood.We patched up.
Next after this we had several small fights,but the worst was the valentines day.
I DID SEND HIM GIFT BUT IT DID NOT GET DELIVERED,I KNEW HE WONT BELIEVE ME SO I GAVE HIM THE FLORIST PHONE NUMBER WHICH WAS A USA NUMBER,THEY CONFIRMED I DID SEND HIM THE GIFT BUT THEY WROTE THE ADDRESS WRONG. SO IT WAS NOT MY FAULT. (I HAVE STILL NOT GOT REFUND,WHICH I DON'T CARE ANYWAY, I DON'T CRY OVER MONEY). I CALLED THEM TO ASK WHY THEY DID NOT DELIVER, THEY APOLOGIZED BUT NEVER DELIVERED THE GIFT, I WAS TOO SAD FOR THAT,I TOLD MY EX I AM SO SORRY AND I AM REALLY SAD IT WAS NOT DELIVERED.HE WAS OK THAT DAY, NEXT MORNING I WAS SLEEPING HE WOKE ME UP WITH A VERY RUDE VOICE,HE TOLD ME I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING FOR HIM THIS TIME AS HE DID SEND ME GIFTS AND I TRIED BUT FAILED.HE THREATENED ME IF I DON'T DO SOMETHING FOR HIM HE'S GOING TO HOLD THIS VISA PROCESS, I WAS LIKE 'WHAT ARE U SAYING? THIS MIGHT BREAK OUR RELATION??' HE TOLD ME 'YEA I KNOW,GO TELL YOUR DAD YOU ARE NOT COMING TO USA NEXT FEW MONTHS(WHEREAS MY PARENTS ALREADY APPLIED FOR THEIR TOURIST VISA WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE USED TO DROP ME TO MY EX IN USA,AND NOW THEY HAVE THE CONFIRMATION TOO) AS YOUR FIANCEE IS HOLDING THE PROCESS'. I WAS SHOCKED,I ASKED 'WHAT U WANT ME TO DO'? HE SAID GO TO THE INTERNET AND DO SOMETHING.SO I WENT TO THE INTERNET AND SEND HIM E-CARD AND EMAIL AND SEND HIM SOME PICS OF ME AND MY FAMILY.I DID NOT KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO TO MAKE HIM HAPPY.I WAS TERRIFIED AS HE GAVE ME ONE WEEK TIME TO PROVE MY LOVE.
HE REPLIED IN HIS E-MAIL:
I don't know what you've done over the internet for me except for the e-card you sent. You would have sent pics of your bro's engagement anyway regardless of Valentine's Day. I don't know if you're counting that or not but I cannot count that as a Valentine's gift for me. So if you think you cannot do something to make up for it, this problem will remain unfixed and I cannot proceed further with our visa. And I really have heard a lot of apologies. All I want now is action. I cannot settle for nearly nothing again this year while I gave everything. That is not fair to me. I am deserving a Valentine's gift this year, and I cannot let this go by. So I hope you know what to do before the week is out.
I DON'T NEED TO PROVE MY LOVE I THINK.I DID WHAT I COULD.I MAY NOT BE RIGHT,BUT YES HE DESERVES A GIRL WHO CAN LIVE UP TO HIS EXPECTATIONS.HE KNOWS HOW MUCH I HAVE PRAYED FOR US.AND NOW I FEEL I HAD BEEN A FOOL.I DON'T EXPECT HIS PARENTS TO UNDERSTAND ME AND NOT CALL ME 'HEARTLESS AND CRUEL' BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A DAUGHTER.
I DON'T WANT THIS THREAD TO CONTINUE,I DON'T KNOW WHY HE STARTED THIS THREAD,MAY BE TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD,BUT IF THAT MAKES HIM HAPPY.ITS FINE. I KNOW WE WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE AFTER ALL THIS.

This appears to be a case to where the length of K1 process has benefited your relationship as apparently your true colors came shining through. As I see it, her father did what a father should have done. His daughter was about to embark on a journey on the other side of the world with what was thought to be with a man of courage, understanding and compassion for his daughter. What he found was a whining individual who thought it was more important he receive a valentines (???) than understand the heart felt, gut wrenching feelings, of parents and daughter who were about to be separated.
Suspect this type of immature “me, me, me” behavior showed up elsewhere during the K1 wait, tearing at the threads of the relationship and the ultimate decision to leave family and country to immigrate.
This thread will probably be shut down, as I would expect others have little tolerance in holding back on giving straightforward observations and advice. For those who have suggested you “ignore the members who tell you to man up” sorry to say, in my opinion, they are misleading you in an attempt to comfort you. I would respectfully suggest you let it go and move on and don’t attempt to make further contact with her or her family. It appears, you are clearly not the only one in this relationship that has been hurt by shattered dreams.

Ugh. This whole original post still just bothers me on so many levels - as a woman, as a US citizen, as someone who went through this whole insane process. Granted, we've probably all said things in the heat of a moment that we wish we could take back. That said, I have a feeling no one here would stoop so low as to try and threaten our significant other with ending the visa process, no matter how heated the argument. The only smidgen of respect I have for the OP is in publicly admitting his terrible behaviour in such detail - knowingly exposing yourself to criticism for extreme stupidity takes some spine. On the other hand, Mr. Florida seems to have made his disturbing post more for the sake of soliciting sympathy for poor, pitiful him - the same guy whose first resort is to threaten to rescind the whole visa/immigration process just because his fiancee's Valentine's Day gift to him was not delivered on time and she didn't think to send him a separate card.
It's all wrong in so many ways that I don't even know where to begin. I still think the ex-fiancee is the lucky one here, for getting to see how much (or, I should say, how little) Mr. Florida really regards her and their relationship *before* she has to convince a U.S. visa officer that she intends to marry this guy because she loves him and he loves her. Sad, that someone would take this process that has been so heartrending for so many here in this forum and elsewhere and use it as a threat in response to something so petty. It's beyond childish and ventures into the abusive, really, for anyone to say "because you did/did not do X, Y, or Z for me, I'm just going to stop the whole visa process, so there!" and that is partly why I find the whole situation so appalling. I cannot find it in me to blame this ex-fiancee for any part of her behavior; I admire her for doing her best to adapt to a volatile environment and then finding the courage to end her relationship with a highly manipulative person.

I agree completely with those who say you are out of order. As the USC, you should know this is a free country, not to mention being the 21st century. She owes you nothing; least of all for "all" the money you spent on her visa. WTH! If you loved her, you would have been equally willing to give up your life in the US and move to India, right?
Honestly, I'm glad she was able to see your true colors and break free of a chauvanist before she put on mehendi and a wedding necklace, to say nothing of moving halfway around the world to a place where she would have been completely cut off from her support network of family and friends. You have a lot to learn about women, mate, starting with respect. A fiancee is your future wife and is deserving of your respect, esteem, and love. Yet, you throw a hissy fit and accuse her of not loving you *enough* because a florist goofed and you didn't get a present on a commercial holiday. She is the one who will give up everything to be with you; all you've shown a willingness to "sacrifice" is a few hundred dollars.
So, yes, you are out of line. I wish you much luck in your maturation process. Hopefully you will learn the right lessons from this experience - including how to respect the woman who will be your eventual partner in life.

It's time for you to move on. Just a little advice: If your future love does not give you something for Valentines Day, don't mention it to her. She said she sent something, and you even confirmed it with the florist, yet you still made her feel guilty for not receiving anything. Threatening her with the visa was really, really low, very stupid, and likely the nail in the coffin for your relationship. You want to know how something could go wrong so fast? I think she saw you as an immature, manipulative little boy and decided to move on with her life. Also, holding her to expectations of how she should act after receiving NOA2 is really unfair. People react differently to these types of things and you need to accept that. Ultimately the two of you were not right for each other and need to move on with your lives. It's sad and unfortunate that things had to end the way they did, but it also sounds like you need to take some time and mature a little bit before making plans to spend your life with someone.

From your posting it sounds like you are stuck in your own egocentric world. She got you a Valentine's present and it got lost, so what? She did try, what else do you want from her. And then you go off and have a hissy fit about her not caring about you when she did send something.
All you did was call to see how she was doing in the hospital. It seems like her family was trying to see how far you would go for her (you did say you would do anything for her) but you didn't try to visit. You don't know if the message from you ever got past her parents, she may think that you didn't care about her while she was sick.
How is it that when she is sick she gets one phone call from you but when you are sick it is a total meltdown....?

I don't know if it's the fact that I'm pregnant and have raging hormones or what but you seem to be a jerk to me. You tell her you want to hold off on the visa cause she didn't say Happy Valentines day to you. She sent you a gift it was the florist fault you did not receive it. To me that's a threat, telling her you do as I want or else I will hold this visa over your head. That is probably how her parent's see it also, the threats are already starting in their eyes and like any parent they want to protect their daughter.
Then you find out she is in the hospital, and you question her father how can some little argument do that to her, but then you end up in the hospital over all this and get mad at her cause she is not jumping at your side calling none stop etc. Seems to me you are just as immature as she is.
Moving and leaving everything you know and love is not easy for anyone, no matter the age. Some ppl do have very close family and family is a big part of their lives, some ppl can not handle it other's manage to make it through but it is not done over night.
Again this is how I see it from your post.

man up princess

It is not necessary to take any of the advice here, from people who have been around for a while, personally. No one has set out to attack you. Everyone in this thread has simply offered you some things to consider and some points of action.

Kathryn, Respectfully, the original post is a mockery, inappropriate, and provoking to readers who really know what hardship is. Why not remove it!

Kathryn, Respectfully, the original post is a mockery, inappropriate, and provoking to readers who really know what hardship is. Why not remove it!

Kathryn, Respectfully, the original post is a mockery, inappropriate, and provoking to readers who really know what hardship is. Why not remove it!