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Harpa's advice is spot on.
However, OP refers to himself as 'notsobright' - not really sure what else can be said.

Lol, crashed - and that you did. No substance has been presented in the OP. Thus, there's nothing to discredit.

Hype over substance. That perfectly sums up the OP article.
Remind me, who posted that one? :whsitle:

If the ACA was indeed as doomed as the right wingers would want to make themselves believe it is, wouldn't they just sit back, relax and wait for it to come crashing down? Instead, they're sitting there foaming at their collective mouths like a pack of hyenas drumming up speculations and false stories (death panels, government takeover, 300% rate increases, whatnot) to make themselves feel better. It's hilarious.

I see you're still trying to ignore what you said and, instead, you're resorting to an ad hominem attack. Those are both signs of a failed argument. Of course, you still haven't explained how a President can be a "deciding factor" of whether a bill becomes law despite the fact that Congress is the deciding factor on whether a bill even ends up on the President's desk.
As painful as it is for you, a trip down memory lane is what you need:
Here's what Jhonster said.
Here are your exact words where you mistakenly defended your beloved ("corrupt lawyer" ) Republican buddies with your "Why the big hate on Republicans?" question, pretending that they had nothing to do with the China trade agreement passing the House and the Senate. You do remember asking the question, don't you?
You asked the question and you got the answer: there is no "big hate on Republicans" because it's a simple fact that the deciding factor in the China trade bill and the NAFTA bill passing both houses of Congress was because of mostly Republican support.

It's Bush Jr. who took down the economy. Did you miss that chapter? Jeez.

You don't have any more to say about it because you've backed yourself into a corner and now you've reduced yourself to spouting nonsense. You're pretending that a bill can get to the President's desk without majority support from the House. Next, I suppose you will be telling us that a bill can land on the President's desk without majority support in the Senate.
You're also pretending that they are all lawyers. Of course, you didn't bother to find out if they were all lawyers because you were desperate to change the subject at any cost. Of course you are wrong about that too, but that's no surprise.
What is particularly funny about your twisted logic is that, in your earlier post, you were defending Republicans from the "big hate," yet now you are calling them all "corrupt lawyers"! Priceless!!!

^^^ You can try to change the subject all you want, but it doesn't work with me. Your points still have nothing to do with the fact that Republicans were the majority supporter of those laws, just like jhonster said. You do understand what "majority" means, don't you?

Apparently you missed the part where jhonster said it was "mostly Republicans." He was correct. Nice try though.

^^^ You're confusing "facts" with "hate."
The "facts" about the China vote:
The House:
Yea: 164 Republicans / 73 Democrats
Nay: 57 Republicans / 138 Democrats
The Senate:
Yea: 46 Republicans / 37 Democrats
Nay: 8 Republicans / 7 Democrats
The "facts" about the NAFTA vote:
The House:
Aye: 132 Republicans / 102 Democrats
Nay: 43 Republicans / 156 Democrats
The Senate:
Aye: 34 Republicans / 27 Democrats
Nay: 10 Republicans / 28 Democrats
Don't you just hate those pesky facts...

^^^ You got that right!
Here in Seattle, it's common knowledge that Microsoft has been lobbying hard for an increase in work visas...and we all know why.
^^^ Yup...George Bush was the best President since Herbert Hoover!
Oops, wait a minute...

This is a bill that disguised as strong position against immigrants that may feed off the system. But is actually a bill written by big corporations & businesses via their bought & paid for politicians (mostly Republicans) that don't want to pay Americans a living wage and rather pay a foreigner less money & less benefits that most Americans wouldn't accept. It's basically the same 'race to the bottom' thats championed by big business that's destroying & eliminating the kinds of jobs that were the norm after WWII.
Here's some facts from the last decade.
Before George W. Bush got into office, there were basically about 50,000 H1 Visa's allowed per year (immigrant worker). When Bush got into office, this amount was upped to 150,000. BIG MISTAKE!! Why? There are roughly about 150,000 students graduating every year in the U.S. with higher degrees. If you allow 150,000 immigrants into the U.S. every year that will displace those AMERICANS from competing for those jobs...then its just simple math. For 8 years under Bush, this type of mentality prevailed because it was all about giving power to corporations and businesses rather than concentrating on creating jobs. Thus....George W. Bush had one of the most disastrous jobs creation records of the majority of Presidents. And thus...we are still feeling the pain of this last administration. Not that I'm a huge Obama supporter either...the last President I actually voted for was Ross Perot. If Ross would have become Pres instead of Clinton, we would have seen NAFTA & CAFTA stopped dead in its tracks. One of the worst legislations to come down the pike in many many years. It killed MILLIONS of manufacturing jobs & caused much of those jobs to move to Mexico, China, India & many other countries.
What makes me laugh though is. Drive by any working farm & see who makes up the majority of the workers. They are 99% migrant. And if you check and see what political side of the spectrum those farm owners are on, 99% of them are supposed 'conservatives' or Republicans. The very same people whom are so anti-immigrant. It's not something the main stream media focuses on....outing the very people whom are so anti-immigrant, but welcome those immigrants to pick their produce & work their farms.

I find it puzzling and alarming that you seem to be about to marry someone you apparently don't know at all. Nor seem to care too much about finding out about, since you're seeking answers from an anonymous online forum instead of having these discussions with her, your supposed partner in life. YOU don't want her to work, how does SHE feel about that? Your attitude about what housewives do seems quite dismissive. Not sure of your insinuation of women just spending the man's money either.
Are you one of those ones that a few months from now will be back here posting your sob story about how she used you just to get a green card?
Sorry, had to ask. Doesn't seem like there's much "partnership" going on in this relationship, but I could be wrong.

Really? A real response?
"Have her do this..." "Have her do that..."
I must have missed the part where you recommended that he ask his fiancée what she wants to do.

"Honey, now that we've been engaged for quite a while, and we've been through this long the visa process, and you're leaving everything behind and flying halfway around the world to marry me and live in this foreign land, what do you want to do with your life?

Wow. This is a person that you're talking about, a thinking, feeling human being, an adult, your equal. You seem to have confused her for a pet? Is this a real post or a troll?!?

calling the kettle black...

and the hits just keep on coming... how did you come to this understanding? the way as the meaning of ate?

Ya I was wondering more than that after reading those two posts... more like what "state" is he in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_kinship

OLDER sister, key word being older.

Which streets are you walking down?

It looks like we're going to have another one of those threads.

Uhhh...why don't you ask your wife?