John&Juvy

logan dude, you're wound too tight, take a deep breath, it will be ok...all I was saying is I hope their are not a lot of dudes into little teenybopper girls, I am sure there are, just as there are guys who are into animals, or other dudes, (a few of them, I suspect, are on here, ahhah).....bfd.
To be honest I only read a line or two of your entire post, I really am not interested in your thoughts.....

You're too funny....I've noticed these guys hate to jack with you because you just agree with them...you know the secret, it takes two to argue, just agree and laugh, they can't come back at that......laugh all the way with your 20something yr old gal on your arm ahhaha.

i have just worked you out... your a control freak

Precisely

Really? So if someone isn't financially set for the rest of their life by the time they hit age 40 they are stupid? ok....

I wud suggest for u to read my other post if u have time. I never hada problem with my in laws, all of them are so wonderful to me and my kids.Never had a problem with my husband even whe n he lost his job till his daughter lives with us.
In my case am not giving my husband a choice..i was giving him a chance coz that's what i think i should do.

Oh and BTW, Dr Crashed, my BP is normal, my weight is great, hardly any belly fat, Test level is normal and I train at gym daily, I am trim and fit and feel great.....as you do not know me the azz ref was me joking and trying to make a point to another poster. I find dudes repulsive and repugnant and the last thing I'd do in the gym locker room is check out a dude, haha.
Your sarcastic post about how to make a PM is BS and I don't appreciate you trying to insult my intelligence...if the thread is going off topic a moderator can tell me so, don't need to hear it from some random poster.....
...AMF.

Crashed, my post was tongue-in-cheek for the most part, especially the gym comment, come on dude, lol. The levitra ref was me trying to make a point, I do have some stashed....my test level is in the normal range, thanks for your concern however.
As far as me going off topic in this thread, I understand how to send a PM, much like you could've sent me a PM suggesting that I send PM's as I am off topic....btw, if you're implying the throttle ref was something other than a motorcycle ref then you are wacked, (I say this because of your 'intimate' comment, which was odd)....

I think your husband need to grow up and need to be little smart lol. He is concern about his adult daughter, but seems like did'nt think about your young children who really need to be taking care of first and need his support. But since he is currently still jobless and can't provide anything for the young kids, and your the one who supporting the family, then the least that he can do is talk to his daughter to save money and move out as possible as she can. About your quistion # 3, I will do more research about that online, coz I also heard about that before that you can't just evict someone who lives long enough with you, even so... I'm sure you probably have more legal rights, specially if you have a reason for kicking her out. should be more easier and possible for you if your husband is gonna support you about this, because he care also about you and your younger children than his 25 y.o daughter.
BUT.. if he really gonna insist that his daughter should really stay.. I guess you have to decide if you still willing stay and tolerate it or leave and stand for your self coz you think you have enough. Also it seems like you already done alot for him and for your marriage. It's his turn to do something for it.

Thank you Capain Obvious.
Why is a RUB hangin' in the PI forum? Do you have more tidbits of wisdom you want to share for the edification of others?
Btw, regarding your first post (on this thread).... a RUB's opinion regarding age gap doesn't carry any weight in the PI.
Shouldn't you be busy "learning" in the "Effects forum"?

I never claimed to have VERY perfect English grammar. I find it odd that a "LAW grad" like YOU claim to be doesn't display better writing skills. Were your profs lenient?
Good luck to you, if, your journey ever begins.

teapotgur1983-You did not answer her question --Did you marry out of desperation ? Did you marry for love or money ?
1.I got a good paying job in a call center -Which call center job on the Pi pays good ? 6000 pesos a mth ?
2. I reached graduate school in a known State universityMost philippino girls attended some form of college and cant even get work , or sometimes work as sales clerk .Besides that degree means nothing in the Usa (maybe except a nursing degree).
3.I can basically get any guy that I want if I wanted to-That is showing off your ego and boastful . Then why did you engage a foreigner ? That would be a ''red flag '' for me if I was yr Fiancee.
4.I am not ugly Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder .what you consider ''not being ugly '' may be ugly to others .Besides inner beauty is really what matters .
5, I am just not sure if I want to live in the US or not that's why I took K-1 route--So why did you ever had your fiancee petition for you --another red ** .
6, we will go back to the Philippines, so I don't call myself desperate to get the US visa. You sound like your relationship is a ''Trial and Error" affair . Is your fiancee aware of all this revelations ?
I dont wish to offend anyone from the Philippines --but there are hundreds of Pinay girls who are more well off than you that wish and dream to migrate to the Usa so that they are in a better position to help themselves and their family .You sound like you have it all going on for you and your Fiancce just happen to come along and you are doing it to please him .
Maybe I am just looking into this too far but I do not like the tone of your reply .Be humble and thank God for his blessings .God Bless.

Why would anyone take offense to something an ignorant punk says?
Secondly, what kind of hypocrisy is this saying there is a "hidden agenda" with a man of ANY age wanting a scorching hot wife that knocks herself out for you? I'm supposed to want a fat old hag with a big mouth that sits on her butt all day? Talk about retarded. Wear your Filipina hottie on your arm with pride.
A woman who doesn't seek security for her children isn't just stupid. She's irresponsible and a bad mother. There is no need to excuse intelligent behavior. Think what they are implying - that she should marry the guys in her neighborhood that drink, gamble, smoke, and fool around. Because that would be TRUE LOVE, and her malnourished uneducated children can steal food from garbage cans, chewing on it with what few rotting teeth they have.
We definitely have found true lust.

And here we go again.......lol. I wonder if darren and his wife life ever been affecting any other members life here. They are not bothering you or nor even know you. "IF" you think you have a better life than them, then be happy with it.. but stop mocking and making thier life like a joke with others just because....lol. Live and let live... we are in a free world.

What debate? Just people taking shots at someone who isn't here anymore...

there are no excuses for cheating and as far as im concerned that is the end of the relationship. trust is everything and once a cheat, always a cheat!!

Tell me this VJ'ers, if the country was not Philippines and lets say either from africa or south america or even central american. Would you have anything to say?? Remember cultures vary in different parts of the world, in some like mine this is very acceptable and not frowned upon AS LONG as its for love and affection and not for any other reason. Heck, if I was 60 and my fiancee 21 and I loved her as much as I do now, Whos to stop me? WHO are you? to tell me NO? to say love has a age limit? Isnt this site based on breaking limits? breaking the limits of distance! GOING OVER AND BEYOND THE NORMAL FOR THE ONES WE LOVE?! People call US not normal! for having a long distance relationship and for wanting to marry someone who live miles and miles away!?! But we know, everyone here knows that the love they are recieving from their significant other is worth the fight, worth the time, and worth the critisism and sacrifice. Whos to say that this 60 year old man can't take care and love this young lady as well or better than someone her age?? How would you like it if everyone stood against you in your current relationship?? you would'nt give a flying f***!
When there is love , there is no distance! and when im 90 years old you best believe that Im going to still be capable of loving my partner just as much as I do now.
Only God can Judge me

I don't see anything wrong with that. She is 21, she is mature, you love her and she loves you; that's what matters. Some people might not like the idea, based on their own personal believes and cultures, but who cares. They don't pay your rent nor put food on your table; they have no right to judge you. It's your life, marry her, be happy and make her happy. Good luck

Ok, I'm going to see if I can offend everyone in one post...
All men everywhere will do stupid things for pretty girls. This character flaw isn't exclusive to American men. However, most American men are not as gullible as many Filipinas seem to think they are. In many cases, these guys know darn well that these girls don't really love them. He might only want a sex toy who will treat him like she loves him for a few years. Most of the time, they're just hoping she hangs around and plays nice until he either dies or gets tired of her. Many times these guys go into these relationships knowing that it isn't going to last more than a few years. The sad truth is that many East Asian and Pacific Island girls don't age very well. They're adorable when they're young, but start to deteriorate rapidly when they hit their mid 20's.
...Jim ducks while the Filipinas start throwing kitchen utensils at him...
This isn't really any different from rich old men in the US who marry young trophy wives. These guys know that these girls marry them for their money. As long as the girl acts like his wife then they're generally ok with that. If she does anything to humiliate him, like fooling around on the side, then the relationship is over.
A lot of the men who go to the Philippines are average looking older men with average incomes. These guys wouldn't have a prayer of getting a young trophy wife in the US, but it doesn't take nearly as much to get a young wife in a poor country. There are several reasons this happens a lot in the Philippines. For one thing, the country has a long and sordid history of sex tourism, like many Southeast Asian countries. For another, there's no strong cultural aversion in the Philippines to older men marrying younger women, especially when there's a financial advantage for the bride.
Obviously, the above doesn't apply to everyone. There are many many relationships which are genuine and sincere on both sides. I'm just saying that not all of the guys who are getting played are totally unaware of it. In many cases, they're playing each other.

Be careful..Be very careful. I attended my CFO seminar..I talked to a fiance asked her if she loves him..her answer JUST MY STEPPING STONE!! Man this is Philippines..Be very wary. You are old and she is way younger..do you really think she loves you?? REALLY??? for those who says AGE DOESN'T MATTER..YES IT DOES!
Still wanna pursue?? OK
Please know as early as now, part of filipino culture being a close knit family..once their child married a foreigner they think
$$$, and then before you know it..you are supporting the whole family. Are you ok with that??
You don't wanna quit? My last shot, LOL
There were 2 women from our province who married USC and everytime the hubby is gone to US..the wifey plays around with a filipino bf who is introduced to husband as driver.. YIKES! :angry:
I don't want rain in your parade but BE VERY WARY. I am sick and tired hearing and seeing couple walking in the malls here..a very old american holding hands with a very young girl. Only if you guys could hear how filipino talks at you back. SAD I KNOW. YES I AM OPENING A CAN FULL OF WORMS..but I am a VJ family member ..I DO CARE..
OP I hope your woman is not one of them..I sincerely wish you well...Good luck!

Still its irrelevant. He is marrying another Filipino in the US not in the Philippines. In the US law, he is free to marry. It's another story if he is marrying the fiancee in the Philippines but that's not the case.

There are many newbies here who have not figured out how to navigate this site. Instead of having an attitude it is better to kindly send them to the correct tab instead of barking can't you read ?!
There are issues with members expressing themselves in the English language, very young members inexperienced in life and members who don't live on the computer 24/7 to do research.
Bullying and a better than you mindset does not help anyone.
I totally get the OP's post and see stuck up 'I own this site attitudes' at times, especially when it is country specific and they shove their "knowledge" down someone's throat which makes no sense at all. They know theory but have not experienced it and come off as know-it-alls because they read a post somewhere. Even too prideful to admit they made the same mistakes because bullying is their preferred emotional exercise.
Straightforward advice does not have to be rude and degrading. Being blunt and to the point is acceptable.It is not about disagreeing as it is about being bullied and belittled and then call your posse to finish the poster off in an attack frenzy free for all. If someone gets aggravated with the same questions over and over again then why not stick to another forum and help there with more challenging issues. Why the compulsion to be disrespectful ? Bad hair day ? Toupee flew away ? Or little man with big dog syndrome ?
Overall this is an excellent site with caring people and great advice.

Darn I was looking for the like button then I realized this is not Facebook

I completely agree.There are so many great people who are very knowledgeable about the process and are willing to help with suggestions and advice.On the other hand there are others who are just rude and think they know everything and are quick to make judgements and sometimes are downright disrespectful.I remember a few weeks ago someone posted about not getting her citizenship because of a past indescretion.The backlash that followed was amazing.the thread ended up being closed.I want to say I appreciate all the good people with real knowledge who are willing to help and not accuse, judge or name call.Thank you for keeping this site great.