sami salim

4 hours ago, ManuelMaserati said:

Honestly I wouldn’t get any hope too high… you have been denied already, a second time won’t have a higher chance of success. 
 

1) you got denied and you broke up (they will question: since he didn’t get an visa he broke up, you can say whatever you want to them but that’s what they will think). Because if it was true love you could have stayed with the same person, marry her, build your case with more evidence and then apply for CR1 instead of K1. 

 

2) You went back on line and found another American girl (why not British? Why not Italian? Why not Algerian, from your own country?). This is what they will think: this guy is desperate to get a US immigration benefits and he is trying to find any American girl possible.

 

just giving you a honest feedback. Be ready, it won’t be a piece of cake with immigration. They have seen all the games and tricks. 

You are right in every point in every comment but thousands of people are divorcing everyday and thousands of people are withdrawing their spousal visas applications every year too so why a CO would judge me on that ? It became a toxic relationship so i stepped out 

Amd yes she is an American i love American girls is that a problem? I don't want an Italian no English so what, and seriously what american benefits are they talking about the American healthcare system is on of the worst systems in the galaxy 

Anyways thatnks a lot for your reply you made good points there and this will be my answers to the CO

2 minutes ago, Wonderfullymade said:

The answer is NO. They will see you as a visa shopper.

So this is a waste of time basically, no visa is granted in my case 

3 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

i thought to ask this 

if i was a CO i would ask some hard questions "would u marry this person if she wanted to live in algeria?"  for example

and to the OP

your interests seem to be in the visa /  u r going to have to prove you care about  this person and under muslim law,  u will be the breadwinner and take care of her

Well Jeanne I could play it and continue my toxic relationship with my ex and re apply again with her if i was that impatient to go to the US , what stopped me to do so ? Living with a toxic person won't change your life not in the US nor in heaven , and if i wanted to go to the USA there is 1000 ways to do so like by a student visa or H1B visa or even go wild with a Coyote from El Paso or new Mexico and there is plenty of videos of people who do that with success on YouTube like everyone knows about that,

and for your question of her leaving the USA for me i won't be a selfish guy and force her to quit a successful career with over 70k usd a year to join me in a 3rd world country to start all over again with a miserable salary in case she can find a job, whithout forgetting that she has a 7 yo son in school 

2nd question , to whom i should send the finciaial evidence that proves that we have shared business and taxes to the US embassy or the USCIS ? 

Thanks 

33 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

if denied there is a NOIR or NOID

one requires the USC to send proof that the reasons for a denial are false with real proof 

Example"

CO says u do not know her date of birth

and she has a text message telling u her DOB and responds saying " i tell him but in algeria they don't celebrate birthdays with a part"

the other can be appealed again with actual proof the CO is wrong about an issue

I did an appeal / it took well over a year and court said our marriage was bona fida and i could reapply

i would not do an appeal again,  i would just reappy and send the proofs that the CO was wrong with a new petition

you mean you would reapply with a new CR-1 all overgain ?

What if the consular just make his mind that the relationship isn't genuine ?

and finally do you advise me to apply ?

1 minute ago, JeanneAdil said:

although online dating is the way 79% of us are going these days

if asked at interview,   it is a way to filter out toxic people /  like u can delete or block a person and they do not have to know where u live 

but u went for 2 american women and u will be asked , Why not a Algerian woman ?  i would ask that one

 

Red flags:

text messages early in relationship that profess love 

decision to meet too fast

decision to marry too fast

ages of both

woman can not have children

# of divorces of each

family does not approve

emails and text messages  of Algerian showing contact with many foreign women before and after meeting this one 

As i told you i met the 1st one on facebook, but the 2nd one on a matching app for single pepole,

i am 1 year older than her

she wants to have children with me and take my last name

never been married , me and her

both families approves

i've tried with locals but it didnt work much

4 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

1.   a denied K1 does not get a  NOIR or NOID / it is sent back to the US and the petition just dies of old age

2.   i would wonder (as a CO)  did u find a new american gf fast after the other K1 was denied/  they will know and question this a lot

3.  Algeria, like Morocco,  does not give out a paper saying why denied,  but u ,  the Algerian ,  know how the CO acted,  what was said and why they denied 

4.  and sorry the other woman did not work out and honestly,  u are lucky that it didn't if her language got abusive

5.  i would plan a trip for the 2 of u to marry /  it is painstaking long to go thru the process in Algeria but if both of u can meet in Tunisia,  it is about a 3 day process to marry and accepted by USA and immigration / although maybe not accepted in Algeria

6.  Make sure your family approves of the new relationship and any photos of the wedding should have the USC and your mom in them

7.  When u marry the USC needs to get originals (or certified copy ) of your national ID,  marriage certificate,  and birth certificate. and these should have an English translation

8.  The USC should use the original of your photo ID and marriage certificate to add u to her tax returns for the year u get married as she is going to have to prove strong financial ties to u to get your visa approved 

9.  have the USC join us here and write to me/  i'll give her some important information /  i can even talk to her on whatsapp

10.  and u better be in love as that is what really shows thru at an interview 

11.  right now everything that must be done is the responsibility of the USC   / later its the Algerian that is under the gun to show intent

 

Thanks Jeanne for the informations, they are gold really, i'll give you some nputs about your points:

1.I don't have access to this information since we break up

2.it was a year gap between the 2, i've met local girls but it didn't work for me, i've all the evidence , i met my new girlfriend on a dating app who matches pepole who are alike

3.The CO hold my passport for days before she returned it to me and deny th visa, i asked a worker there she told me the CO wasn't convinced enough about the relatioship (and yes, thznkfully she did).

4. yes she cursed me and she wasn't nice, like she wanted to force me to do things, she was rude and mean to me a lot i sent her loads of valuable gifts yet she told me i wan't nice to her that was painful for me, and she told me i was after her to get a green card only

5. We plan to marry in Dubai as they allow civil marriage now, or try international virtual Zoom wedding of Utah state

8. She has a good income , above 60k a year before taxes

9 Thanks a lot , i appreciate that

10. yes we are in love and she is the one , we are planning to have a baby together

Thanks a lot again , you are a real pro

2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

The US citizen can move to your country. 

Well she has a very well paid job in the USA , she can't let her career and move all of a sudden

3 minutes ago, Mezyan said:

It’s possible, I’m aware of their story. We just don’t know all the details of it, and it’s a different consulate so hard to say it will be the same result for you.  Going the k1 route is more risky. It can’t be appealed so if you are denied you have to start over. 
 

Typically the immigration process isn’t really helped by having children. So if you have kids, it’s not going to make it easier for you to get approved. The consulate usually only cares if the woman is of child bearing age, like is she able to have a kid. Not if the couple has one. 

Thank you,

so basically i'll go the CR-1 route, but nothing is sure right, the risk of denial is still there, and there is a risk of never be

5 minutes ago, Mezyan said:

What you have said about your ex doesn’t appear to have many red flags besides meeting online. So I can’t really speak much to that. Was she Muslim, Christian, or Jewish? Sometimes religion can be a problem. If they aren’t one of the above it can be a red flag. 
 

Meeting your current partner on a dating app is a red flag. It can be viewed as you looking for a way out of your country. So while it is a place for people looking for serious relationships the consulate will be very critical of you because of it. Spending time together and having co-mingling finances and doing as much as you can to combine your lives will be best. 
 

The cr1 can be appealed that is correct. 

Yes we are both serious about our relationship and we are planning to have a child together, there was a same case i saw in the show 90 days fiance where the petitionar was a woman and she applied for a k-1 visa for her previous boyfriend than he divorced her once he was in the USA than she applied for another k-1 with a tunisian guy and it was approved again (look for Zied and Rebecca)

so my pex gf is muslim and the second one is christian

4 minutes ago, Mezyan said:

A definite red flag is that you have met both of these women online. What website did you meet this 2nd girl? You will have to overcome this with lots of time spent in person. 
 

Also as others have said, you need to know why your previous k1 was denied. What was the age difference between you and the first woman? How many times did you meet before you filed? What online website did you meet at? 
 

Because North Africa is a high fraud area with visas and you already have one denial with a different woman, it would probably be best to go the cr1 route. Especially because you can appeal this if it is first denied. 
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Thanks mon frére,

so basically i have access to all those informations

i've met the 1st one on facebook, the 2nd one on a dating app for pepole seeking mariage so it's a legit place

the age difference with my ex was 5 years she was older then me

my actual gf is 1 year younger than me

so basicallly i can appeal the CR-1 petition in front of a judge if its denied ?

شكرا بزاف

5 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

That being said, no one can guarantee any new petitions will be approved.

Do you mean by the USCIS , NVC or the embassy ?

2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

If so, evidence of a LOT of time actually spent together will be a key to avoid that this time.

And do you advise me to apply for a CR-1 visa this time ?

yes we have a lot of time together and we had our holidays in Turkey last time

3 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

I AM asking because that is vital information required to provide helpful advice.  Giving advice without all the information would be useless.

Honestly i don't know the outcomes of the NOIR or the resaon of the denial, i tried to ask her but she cursed me then she blocked me lol how childish

i think the consular wasn't convinced enough of the relationship because i asked a local employee in the embassy and she told me that

3 minutes ago, MarJhi said:

Not asking for you to tell me what the reason for the denial in the first relationship was because that's none of my business, but I am guessing that would be the key. If it was denied because of something questionable on your end then I would expect that would hold true the second time around. If you were denied because of something on the previous fiancee's end then that should not be a problem with a new fiancee. 

 

How long between the first and second  woman? 

Honestly i don't know the outcomes of the NOIR or the resaon of the denial, i tried to ask her but she cursed me then she blocked me lol

i think the consular wasn't convinced enough of the relationship because i asked a local employee in the embassy and she told me that

there is a year gap between the 1st and the 2nd one

3 minutes ago, Unlockable said:

^Exactly this!!!! This is the tough questions the OP should be prepared for.

Any suggestions though, even if i marry my actual girlfriend ? and have children with her

2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

@sami salim, what is the age difference between you and the USC?

i am 1 year older than her, i mean my actual girlfriend

5 minutes ago, more00 said:

Yes just make sure you know what happen to the k1 because the CO will want to know 

Actually my ex blocked me, she became so toxic and she was cursing me, so i ended up the relatioship, i don't have any information about the outcomes of the previous petition

2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

No one can answer that.  The fact that you had a previous relationship with a US citizen will likely be questioned.  One question might be "Why are you seeking American women online"??

Yes, that is the kind of scrutiny you can expect.

you are right, i was asked that previously, i met her online actually , same goes for the other girl

the question is, can i apply again or there is any legal restrictions for that ?

6 minutes ago, more00 said:

Yes is better you go for CR1

So there will be no problem with filing a new petition with another woman ?

Hello everyone,

So this is my story, I the beneficiary was in a relationship with an American woman we applied for a K-1 visa but the visa was denied by the US embassy, we break up months after the denial because the relationship became so toxic between us,

After a year I met another American woman online she visited me 3 times and we want to apply for a new visa, she knows about my past relationship and I told her about everything

On 3/19/2018 at 7:41 PM, SJI said:

We got our NOA2 recently. My fiance is preparing to get police clarification certificates. She is Indian by birth and is currently working in Dubai. She stayed in Qatar for 7 months for job which is a little over 6 months. We are wondering if she still requires a PCC from that country. Getting PCC from Qatar is such a pain in the neck as their government is very weak and the process can be very time consuming (up to 3 months). Any idea folks? If she still requires the PCC from Qatar, is there any way to speed up the process?

What did you do about the Qatari PCC , did you get it ? or you just explained to the US embassy that you can't obtain it 

On 10/25/2016 at 8:20 PM, Z's Joy said:

Hello,

I have been reading a lot about this in the forums and I see different answers. And I am asking this question again, in case there are fresh answers based on recent AOS filings. You see, I came to the US on K1 visa and we recently got married. My husband's new job (employed since Oct of 2015) meets the 125% limit (for 2 people) set in the 2016 I-864P or the poverty guidelines (It's a few thousands higher). However, the 2015, 2014, and 2013 incomes based on federal income tax returns show lower than the poverty limits. Would you suggest for us to get a joint sponsor? Or should we just go on with filing as his current income meets the 2016 limits, as long as we submit the letter from the employer, paystubs, Fed ITR for 2015, and w2s?

Many thanks in advance!

did it work for you ? what documents did you provide to prove your AOS please, the pay stubs thing worked ? you provided the last 6 months pay stubs