TwoInLove

He had to have admitted to using something within the 3 year period before the interview. He would not have been banned for experimentation in his distant past so he must have said he had used something within that 3 year period. As you probably already know, an applicant must be free of any drug for 3 years prior to the interview.

I'm currently going through the same thing. I have 11 more months to go before we can call the embassy for another interview.

Just remember at the medical when they ask him/her if they have ever tried an illegal drug even for experimentation, the answer is NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!! Even if they say "you better say the truth because our test can tell if you have taken anything in the last 3 years" THEY ARE LYING. Just don't even go there with the drug question, just say NO.

When the medical is over your interview will be a breeze.... just make sure you prep your fiance about that medical, I didn't and my fiance admitted to trying drugs in high school and then smoking a joint 6 months prior to the interview. We were denied and he was labeled a drug addict - don't go what we are going through, make sure you prep your fiance!!!

I believe the police cert is not necessary for Juarez if there is not criminal record.

Congrats nm123 on your marriage! Many wishes for a wonderful life together

So far so good

He said they treated him very nicely. Everyone there was good and even the people outside were friendly.

Ask him which medical clinic did he choose? I think most of the posts on VJ were basically positive with the one being on the same side of the street as the consulate being slightly in the lead.

Wishing you the best today.

Brian

jmmr - good luck! I hope everything goes well today!

We're going down to city hall today...

Good Luck today, I'm sure you will get it! You are so lucky!

NM123: Yes, the ppl that had a situation to ours weren't really similar because those posters were already married to their SO's. We are not yet married. I found the paper they gave Edgar when he was rejected and it says to contact the office "after 12/09" to set up a new appt time. I guess that means our case is still open, I wonder if we can schedule the appointment now for later?

Hello All:

Just popped to see how everyone is doing - looks like there are some new posters in here and that ppl are getting their visas, wonderful.

We are still waiting out our 3 year ban so as I have said before please remember to brief your fiances before their medical exam not to admit to past drug use even if it was just experimentation. Just don't go there, it's not worth it trust me.

My fiance is very clean, just experimented in high school and then admitted to smoking a joint 6 months before the interview which was a total fluke because he doesn't use drugs or drink. Because of the psychologist at the medical coaxing him to tell the truth "that nothing will happen to affect your visa", my fiance told her that he experimented in high school and smoked marijuana 6 months before his interview so we were denied. The denial turned our whole world upside down not to mention so much $$ down the drain. I remember talking to my fiance after the medical and asked "how did it go?", when he told me what he said all he could hear was screaming from my end of the phone - I couldn't believe it, I knew it was over and done with right there. He got mad at me and said there is nothing to worry about because "the psychologist told him" and I just kept freaking out and crying. He said he couldn't take the stress from me anymore and that he wasn't going to talk to me again until after the interview. Of course the next day he called me crying and apologizing.

We still have 15 more months to go to wait and we are really not sure what we are supposed to do. I am going to try and call the consulate this week as we don't know if we have to re-apply, what to bring with us, nothing. We both were in such a bad state from the denial it was hard to comprehend anything at that time.

We are still holding on though this process is very long and very tough.

If there is anyone out there that has gone though this I would appreciate any input you may have.

Hi Guys, long time - sorry I have not been around much.

I have been trying to call the embassy to get some information but I can't make 900 calls from my phone and it won't take my credit card for some reason.

Edgar was rejected in June 2007 because he told them he smoked a joint in Dec 2006 so they told us that we won't be eligible to go back until January 2010 but I have so many questions I need answers to.

1) First, do I have to go back to Mexico to visit Edgar in this time period to meet the "see each other within 2 year" requirement even though we have been together for a long time?

2) Do we have to apply through DIS all over again and start the process all over again or is our case still open and can we just go back? The paper we got which is form CDJ-450A says: Section 212(a)(1)(A)(iv) which prohibits visa issuance to any alien who is an addict/user of a prohibited drug. You must remain completely free from any durg use for not less than three years. Please call our Visa Information Center to request a new appointment after 12/09.

3) Edgar will have documentation of drug counseling even though it's a joke that they labeled him an "addict", the guy doesn't even drink for crying out loud - it was a one time thing. Does anyone here have any information as far as presenting drug counseling paperwork?

Any help would be appreciated, I sure wish I could just talk to someone there!

Hi Guys, how is everyone doing?

I'm back because I'm not really sure about how to proceed with my dilemma with Edgar. As you all know we were denied due to Edgar saying he smoked weed at this medical - duh? Anyway - he is banned for 3 years until we can apply again.

I don't know if I have to submit all the papers all over again or if the case is till open or what. I don't know what we have to present at the next interview etc. We were going to get papers from the doctor proving that he has been in counseling and taking drug tests from the time of the failed interview up until he can go back again - in hipes that that will be all we will need to get the approval to get married.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? I just don't want this to get screwed up again - if we get denied again, I don't know what we are going to do.

Kitkat: I am SO HAPPY FOR YOU, CONGRATULATIONS GIRL! THIS IS WONDERFUL NEWS!

As for me, sorry I have not been around - I have been through a lot with Edgar's rejection from the Consulate. To recap what happened, he failed the medical interview by admitting to smoking pot a few months before the interview - this is an automatic rejection. Remember those of you who are ready to go for your interview, no matter what questions they ask at the medical and no matter how 'comfortable' they make you feel, never ever ever admit to using any kind of drug ever in your life - you will be denied plain and simple. Edgar and I are banned from applying again until 2010! So much time and money down the drain. Thousands.

I'm back and now I'm trying to think about how we are going to proceed. I don't know if we should get married and apply for the K-1 or go the fiance route again. I want to start making decisions about this by January 2008 and start to make plans on what we are going to do.

One question I have in my mind is if we go back to apply for the fiance visa in 2010, and they see he was denied for failing the medical, how can we get around this the second time around? I know he can say he doesn't do any kind of drugs at the medical but what if they don't believe him? I know we will not be able to survive another rejection. Any suggestions on what we can do to get him here once and for all???

Congratulations Marty! I know how thrilled you must be! I'm getting ready to go to Acapulco to see Edgar for 3 weeks. After six months apart we really need to see each other and re-group. I still just may move to Juarez and work in El Paso if I can rent my house out. I'm going to have to weigh my options here. This so sucks I can't even tell you! The summer is so beautiful here and my house looks so nice, I just don't want to lose my house - but I've never rented out anything before, ayayay!

Congrats Allie! Felicidades!

For anyone going to the interview, remember to prep your fiance BEFORE THE MEDICAL, DON'T GET SCREWED LIKE WE DID, YOU NEVER TRIED ANY KIND OF DRUG IN YOUR LIFE, NEVER NEVER NEVER, DON'T MESS THIS UP. WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SO EASY TURNED OUR LIVES UPSIDE DOWN, DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE! THEY WILL TRY TO SCARE YOU, JUST IGNORE IT, THEY LIED TO MY FIANCE AND TOLD HIM "OH IT'S OK, NOTHING IS GOING TO AFFECT YOUR VISA IF YOU ARE HONEST" THEY LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE!

Don't do it!!!!!! Prep your fiances!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are exploring our options right now. It's pretty important that I maintain my house while this is going on because it will only be an asset later. The real estate market is really bad right now. He is going to hang in Juarez and get a job until we decide what to do.

If he can relocate to Montreal that only puts him 10 hours away from me driving and you better believe I will do that every weekend, it's better than Acapulco!

If anyone, anyone knows someone in Toronto or Montreal who may be able to help us out for a few weeks please let me know. If I can get him there and get him into a place and get some work we can make it through this without having to lose everything.

So many changes right now, I hope we can survivie it.

The embassy did get back to me though, I argued that their medical results where incorrect. Doubt it will do any good but it's worth the try.

I offered to prove to them that he is in no way a drug user and that I would pay for any kind of test to prove it. whatever.

I feel a lot better today. We actually got to see each other on camera MSN and it was good, back to flashing each other LOL.

Feeling better today.

Trust me, you are so lucky. I only wish I had Marco and Edgar hook up before the medical, maybe Marco would have thought to mention something to Edgar about the medical, I can't believe I didn't re-brief him on that - For one stupid answer we are being punished and it may very well tear us apart.

We can go back 12/09. That is a lifetime away for me. 30 more months to go. What if we go through all that and they deny him AGAIN? I will kill myself? I won't be able to survive it, I'm barely surviving this.

I still feel like doing something to make them re-review the file as if he never said anything about the December thing, I know I am grasping at straws, I am just in deep deep despair, I've been killing myself for a year for this interview date and I am beating myself up about not briefing him right before the medical about the drug policy, we covered it with him months ago and I thought that would be one thing he wouldn't forget. If he only hadn't of said about December he would be here RIGHT NOW. I've been preparing for him for months and months and months and all those tears of being apart and not being able to be together I knew were coming to an end. Instead, he is kicking around down in Juarez devastated and I am here in the full throws of a complete nervous breakdown. It's such a stretch and such a sacrifice for me to give up everything to go to Juarez. I have sacrificed so much already, so so so so much. I am afraid, very afraid. I've never been so broken-hearted about anything in my life. I am absolutely inconsolable and I don't know when it's every going to get better.

I really appreciate you all trying to help me out, I really do - I really don't know if I am going to survive this. My family is telling me it's an "act of God" and all that stuff, that we aren't meant to be together etc etc....

I hope I can survive this, he has to wait so long to have opportunites in the USA, wait a damn waste. I cannot accept that there is absolutely nothing I can do to turn the decision around.

I feel so helpless, if there was a way I could convince them it was only 5 years ago and never again I would but I have no idea how I could do that. I know I am having a nervous breakdown, I can't even work and I just want to walk out of this job. I feel like my life is ruined. Poor Edgar is suffering so badly - I can't see him and there isn't anything I can do for him. I may fly to El Paso tonight but I'm really putting myself in the red financially.

Oh my god I cannot believe this has happened, I am sick to my stomach.

Words cannot describe to any of you how I feel guys - I just feel like I am never going to see the sunshine again. I have to try and stay strong for Edgar - he is suffering so badly. We are suffering so badly.

We were denied because my fiance admitted to trying pot 5 years ago and that he smoked it again in December, BIG NO NO.

In this case HONESTLY IS NOT THE BEST POLICY, DON'T LOSE EVERYTHING BY ADMITTING TO ANY DRUG USE !!!! EVER!!!!!

We are devastated and cannot apply again until January 2009.

That's correct, he said he experimented 5 years ago which would have been fine but it was the fact that he mentioned smoking in December is what killed it.

Actually Laurel Scott called me this morning and I spoke to her about it. She said there's really nothing we can do.

According to Kitkat, this is the policy:

Directly quoted from Warren Janssen:

Persons who admit during the medical exam to using an illegal drug within the last three years, or who are found with these substances in their system after drug screening, are inadmissible as drug abusers. There is an exception for mere experimentation (single use).

so maybe you can request further consideration of your cased based on it being just experimental use.

how would I do that?

I think what I am going to do now is an idea that Lucy gave me. I know that I cannot be apart from Edgar for 3 years, that is definitely OUT. I can however, secure a job in El Paso and live with Edgar in Juarez until the 3 year ban is up. We can get married and be together, this is what I think we should do.

I found out that he told them that he smoked a joint in December 2006 so that pretty much puts the icing on the cake. It's done and there is absolutely NOTHING I can do.

Janet, this certainly clarifies why he was denied. It's great that you can connect with Heina. It's true that there is nothing you can do for now, but certainly you can reapply in three years. In the meantime, is there any way for you to move there? You won't lose everything - you can rent your house!

Well I just ended such a long fight with my house with my ex-husband. It's literally the first month that I am handling the bills on my own. I really don't know what I am going to do now. I need to think about what we are going to do.

First, Congratulations TijuanaHilton, I am very happy for the both of you Felicidades!

For our case, I see no hope. Lucy and I spoke to Edgar awhile back and told him that under no circumstances was Edgar to mention anything about drugs. Why on earth he would volunteer that information is beyond me and I am overcome with grief, I hope I don't get fired because I called out of work today as well. My hands are shaking so much I can hardly type. I got in touch with a VJ'er named Heina who had the same problem, I am going to speak to her tonight on the phone.

When Edgar told me about the medical two days ago is when I really lost it, inconsolable. I found out that he told them that he smoked a joint in December 2006 so that pretty much puts the icing on the cake. It's done and there is absolutely NOTHING I can do.

I have changed my whole life preparing for this day and now I feel like my whole world is now upside down. We have to get Edgar back home to Acapulco, he's talking to people now about crossing over anyway. Canada might be an option however, I have my house here and I don't know the first thing about trying to become a Canadian citizen. I could move to Mexico but I would lose everything that I have here.

I really don't see any options now for us, I just feel like my whole world crashed in the past two days and I am a mess. I just don't see anything I can do at this point.

its over. deniied because he admitted to smoknig po 5 years ago.its iver. no hope now . it;s over.

denied.

only trying to decide whether or not to live.

Please pray for us today, I am so worried - please pray for us. Please.

I really need to coach Edgar tonight - my friend whom is Peruvian is on his way over because I've been crying so much. He can at least talk to Edgar better than I can with detail so I am going to take that route.

KitKat, should I call the Warren Janssen guy? Or wait until the results of the interview? I know I can convince him -