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He posted the link to Greenpeace's website. Greenpeace lists their 3 founding members from 1970, and Moore isn't one of them. He joined 1 year later. You may not have bothered to read it, but it's just the facts, simply stated.

He was an important contributor to Greenpeace then, just as he is a (paid) spokesman for the nuclear industry now and has been for the last 20 years. Nothing wrong with disclosing the facts.

I was not making a comment on who were founding members -- I could care less about that. I was making a general comment about some posters who always resort to attacking the source of information they disagree with, no matter what the subject.

He was a co-founder and leader in it for 15 years.. In the end he left when he disagreed with the direction they were heading. Re-framing him as a corporate shill because you don't like his politics now is just avoiding the argument. How about looking at his claims in this article? There is plenty to comment there without going to the attack-the-source tactic.

These usual left wing leaning suspects can't help it. It is something in their blood. Or congenital. Can't win the arguments on the merits, so they always resort to character assassination or discrediting the source.

She is, in general, an idiot. But I would support this bill wholeheartedly.

This has turned into the stupidest, off topic thread imaginable.

Sadly, it seems that every time there is some type of disaster relief, much of the $ is unaccounted for.

Whatever...

even me huh. lovely

you completely misunderstood what i was saying concerning turnstile jumpers and i don't feel like trying to explain myself to you. lol

sooo, you believe that our current method of incarceration for just about everything (especially being poor) is effective? we just don't keep people locked up long enough. sure.

love that you lumped criminals and sociopaths together, like one group.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/as-arrest-records-rise-americans-find-consequences-can-last-a-lifetime-1408415402

Maybe I misunderstood you, and if so I will be the first to apologize, but you do not want to explain? OK by me but strange. Also, I admittedly do not understand your post above.

But I never said anything about incarceration for being poor -- that is a ridiculous statement. And I never said anything about the appropriate length of time to be locked up. Please do not put words in my mouth. And FYI, many, if not all, sociopaths are criminals.

Checked on our end. No issues here. May be a signature on someone's account. If you can narrow down a page I'll dig further!

OK, next time this happens I will try to get you the page involved, if I can remember.

please tell me why tax payers should have to pay to put someone through the criminal justice system and possible room and board in jail for jumping a turnstile? yes, changing the laws is the solution. why do you want to pay to keep people in cages over nothing? violent crime, that's what jail should be for.

Sorry but your response shows a lack of understanding about certain crime.

Catching turnstile jumpers picks up all sorts of concealed weapons, people out on warrants, and decreases crime. Most of them are not what even you would call upstanding citizens, and they deserve their fate. Many violent criminals are either removed from the subway, or are discouraged from practicing their predatory behavior, when turnstile jumpers are caught. And for simple turnstile jumping they do not get jail time, generally, so remarks about room and board are not relevant.

The lack of respect for general order and the police is a major problem, and contributes to the tense situations you often rail about. The answer is not to change the laws, the answer is for criminals and other sociopaths to change their behavior, or pay the consequences.

invalid point? wanting to know what exactly the man said? please.

if a black celebrity wrote this same op ed and told about his child experiencing racism with the same amount of info as michael d provided you'd accept that racism was experienced or would you question it? you're full of it.

Permit me use your tactic of constant questions. What about the incident makes you think Douglas's child did NOT experience racism?

My AVAST antivirus is picking up a threat (and alarm goes off) on the Current Events CEHST forum:

I think the infection's name is: HTML: script-inf

Here is the biggest issue in Ferguson. Speaking of the truth. It's a lot easier however t blame whitey

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-robinson/the-shocking-finding-from-the-doj-ferguson_b_6858388.html

The Shocking Finding From the DOJ's Ferguson Report That Nobody Has Noticed

That may seem like hyperbole, but it is a literal fact. In Ferguson -- a city with a population of 21,000 -- 16,000 people have outstanding arrest warrants, meaning that they are currently actively wanted by the police. In other words, if you were to take four people at random, the Ferguson police would consider three of them fugitives.

The libs are just going to blame that fact on racism.

Like here in NYC, the way they are handling the fact that blacks and other minorities commit more crimes than whites, is to decriminalize crime. For example, it is no longer a crime to possess pot. People are even pushing for laws to decriminalize turnstile jumping on the subway! Yeah, that's the solution. Make crimes no longer illegal, so not too many minorities are ensnared in the criminal justice system. Why not just wipe out all laws? It is easier than punishing the guilty after the race card is played over and over.

The foxes are running the hen house. Crazy.

speaking of less trophies - i just read the entire op ed and i don't really get what the big deal is. i don't really know how many times my kid's been yelled at by some random stranger at the pool. it's kind of normal. why doesn't michael douglas tell us what the man at the pool said, exactly. how does he know that the guy was treating his son differently because of his necklace?

oh, so his son was called names? i didn't see that in the piece. that's why i commented it would be nice to know how michael douglas reached the conclusion that his son had experienced anti-semitism.

again, i only said i wanted to know specifically what was said. that's it.

now go make a don lemon/trinidad james thread already.

i want details on what the man said to michael d's kid. do you have those details? doesn't seem like it.

Please, like pornography, one knows it when one sees it.

And they almost never explicitly say what was said in alleged anti-black acts - they almost never print that "N" word, for example. So your repetitive cry for "information" falls hollow and you are minimizing what happened to a victim.

I wait for the day when Danno or whoever this sock puppet actually is that started this thread and countless others like it bemoans the hurt feelings of Muslims in Europe. They see election related signs like these all over the continent - a continent that they actually call home. I bet this sort of thing makes them all warm and fuzzy. But hey, they're not really people, right?

Translated: Good Flight Home.

The only "sock puppets" on this thread are those lemmings that "+ 1'd" Val's repetitive, and invalid, points.

This is a disgusting outrage.

I think membership in the Communist Party of China is an automatic denial of an immigrant visa?

Not true it is an automatic denial, but they will examine investigate the applicant's motivation in joining and level of involvement in the CCP.

I saw the entire well written piece in the LA Times.

Is it? Many would say that it's a good description of how Republicans have been acting since getting their panties in a wad about Obama becoming the President. Twice.

How about the Democrats' anti-GWB contingent? I supposed they were well behaved.

On the flip side, it's also a good description of how the Democrats have been acting since they lost the House in 2010.

Or how apoplectic they got when George W. Bush was in office. Those morons and this President are still blaming him for almost everything.

What Iranian propaganda? Show me where the current president of Iran has threatened to nuke any neighboring country?

Iran has MANY TIMES expressed a desire to "wipe Israel off the map."

It's no secret they want the country to fail so they can blame it on the administration. It's been their endgame all along.

Nobody, except our enemies, wants this country to fail. That is a baseless and inflammatory assertion.

The Justice Dept's substance-less piece of c r a p is something with which to line the bird cage.

It was simply issued to calm the out of control masses of mostly black people that are protesting. It was to overshadow, and grab the headlines, from the real story - the one that completely exonerates Officer Wilson and exposes the lies spread by these protests around the country.

It could also have been that when white people rehab properties, it tends to precede gentrification, which can price a neighbourhood out of the price range of people who don't have much money, over the course of a decade pushing people out of the neighbourhood their family has lived in for generations.

That simply does not justify the behavior he was subjected to by any means.

There's nothing inherently racist about any group having an event, including white people.

Pride, while an affirmation of ones own qualities and characteristics, is also often cited as a deadly sin, Historically there has been a pattern of behavior at these events that leans more towards the latter. That's not my fault or yours, but our recent ancestors seemed to have a hard time holding a white pride event without using it to affirm their belief in themselves as the master race. If not for that, then there wouldn't be such a stigma attached to it today.

Sorry, but I beg to differ. Pride events emphasize differences, actually they celebrate them, and imply one group is somehow better than another. They are inherently discrimatory.

How do you think a white pride event would go over at the same University ?

Exactly. Actually any [insert your favorite ethnic group here] pride event is INHERENTLY racist.

_{Why all this talk about race? It just detracts from the savage behavior of that mob. I have heard they have ID'd at least one of them. They all should be arrested.}

Regarding Obama and Holder references, I think that argument holds some traction because they seem to get involved in local issues more than previous Administrations in my lifetime.

From my recollection, I don't remember Clinton, Bush, Bush, or Reagan weighing in on individual cases - certainly not to the degree we have seen over the last 6 years.

I do remember Bush addressing the nation regarding the Rodney King beating and riots and he took a much more neutral approach.

True dat.

And Obama has been proven wrong in every (local) issue he sticks his nose into (G Zimmerman, Cambridge police department, and Officer Wilson). It is funny how those so offended by a supposed "rush to judgment" by the majority are the absolute quickest to label any perceived slight racism.

Not a chance she will do time.

I doubt it will even faze her run for the White House in 2016.

Unfortunately I think you are correct.

The Smoking Gun - have they found the Kenyan's birth certificate yet? I mean the real one, of course.

My lord, you can't let a humorous article go by without attacking the source. Must be a reflexive response.