Kolewenoik31

"My husband and I have had a long online relationship, and when we met we got married on the first meeting"
You dont have to worry about meeting and getting married in your first time of meeting your spouse...CO will never use that against you.....different couples with different private reason of doing things..for example in my own case, there was nobody to babysit for our 2 kids when she wanted to visit me for the time and also, we were trying to save some money on flight ticket as we all know the current global economy crisis affecting average family all around the globe. All your spouse needs to do is get all necessary papers and have a reasonable response to the CO. Good luck

Why? because there is more love before marriage?

Hi Y'all,
First of all, Thanks to everyone who have helped me move along my IR1 Visa application. In January when I started applying for my wife's green card application (I-130), I was clueless like any other member who is looking for someone to shed some light on the path forward. All of it was Gibrish to me then but then I decided to get a Agent to help out with the documentation. This agent was not an Attorney but a guy who would help with typing the documents, putting the documents together and I was responsible for timely sending the documents and tracking the status of the document. I do not expect you to read through my journey timelines but here is my advice to those who are first timers
1. The process is fairly simple but a time consuming one. Do not start counting down days when you start applying.
2. Please do not be adventurous and ask your questions on Visa Journey as there are people who are a step ahead of you and they respond fairly quickly.
3. It's your choice to get an Attorney/ an Agency to type and file documentation but always keep in mind that nobody else would want your wife/ fiancé here more than anybody so please keep tracking the progress and keep calling and enquiring USCIS about your case.
4. If at any point, you feel your case in being delayed, call them "Every day" and email them about the case status. Always look for speaking to a Tier 2 agent when calling USCIS because the first agent to talk to is a customer care agent and they don't have any superior access more than what you see on the USCIS site.
5. Once your NOA2 is accepted, please start working on all Civil documents. These could take time if you were to wait on getting these documents down the line.
6. Do not leave it to fate. Your document processing depends on how fast you move with acquiring and sending it for processing.
7. Don't be ignorant and be clear of what you're doing and do not assume what others have to say. The processes keep changing and every persons scenarios are different.
8. The agents who look at your files go through thousands of documents a day. Look through the requirements, send all documents. A neatly and well organized paperwork literally gets credit for the hard work. You do not want to risk your case because of a missing document and bad mood of an Agent.
9. Keep everything organized from day 1,Keep a copy of everything you send out.
10. Please keep your information to the most current. Check for the Name Changes, Expiration dates of Passports, documents and If you do not have an email Address, I recommend you create one. Not like you get notified by email all the time. But you get some notifications via email.
Processing Experience:
Here is my processing experience. Please refer to my timeline for more accurate information. However, I do not guarantee the similar experience but wish it would be a less painful process for you. Please refer to the USCIS site for documents required for each phase.
First Phase: (I-130 Processing)
I got married on December 29th 2012 and I returned on the 6th of January 2013. I did not start the paperwork until 2 weeks later. I consulted an Agent who told me what documents are required to fill our I-130 forms. I gave them the information regarding us. To file I-130, I gave them a copy of mine and my wife's passports & birth certificates. They filled out the paperwork and I sent them out on 17th of January 2013. On 22nd January 2013, I received NOA1(Notice Of Action 1) which is an acknowledgement of receiving my paperwork by USCIS. It mentioned the Priority dates, Where you files are sent for Processing (National Benefits Center in my case). This is not an approval, it's just an acknowledgement.
Then we waited hoping to hear back from USCIS in about 90 days-6 months for the I-130 processing. Here is where, I would call every week to find out of any progress in the paperwork. When you talk to the customer care at USCIS, they have no other information than the information available on the USCIS site available to you. In my wonderful experience, i found out its worth asking to be transferred to a TIer2 agent because, I was told one time by a regular agent that my case was transferred over to the Vermont Service Center. I was mad ticked off, all hell broke loose because Vermont had the worst backlog at that time. I called back half an hour later, got transferred to a tier2 agent and she confirmed the documents are still in processing at the NBC.
February 27th 2013, is when I received my NOA2( Notice of Action 2) which mentioned that our I-130 was accepted and that our case would be transferred over to the National Visa Center. What this means to you is that they have just accepted it and still need further decision making. I called my Agent to know what this means and I was told " Congrats Beta (Son in Hindi), call me when you get an email about the $88.00 fee". At this time, I was like what does this mean, I contacted USCIS enquiring about the $88 payment and they told me that the payment is for the National Visa Center and I would be notified via email to make the payment once the National Visa Center received my case.
Second Phase: ( National Visa Center)
Finally, Sometime in April, I received the email for the payment. I made the payment on the travel.gov site. If you do not know your NVC case # and Invoice #, please contact the NVC and they would provide you with this information. I went to my Agent to get the rest of the paper work done. My Agent filled out the Choice of Agent form and the Affidavit of Support(I-864) together and asked me to send it out. The documents needed for AOS (I-864) was my 2012 tax returns and my last 6 pay stubs. I got the letter from my employer as well to show my annual income. Since my salary was above the limit (Please check the site for the salary limit), I did not require any additional sponsorship. I sent both documents together and I waited for the next step in the process.
In about less than 10 days I received another email to make the payment for the next step DS-230. This is a tricky process. I am a US Citizen and my wife's Indian. By the rules of India, They are required to give PCC's. One is a Passport Clearance Certificate and the other is a Police Clearance Certificate. Nobody in India has a clue about what the difference between the 2 is and where to acquire these document. If you have a valid Indian passport, go to the nearest Passport Office and you can apply for a PCC(Passport Clearance Certificate). If you have a recently issued passport this process would not take more than a day. If you have a passport issued over 6 months to an year, I believe they would do a police verification.
The Police Clearance Certificate is acquired from the Commissioner's office or from the rural SP Office. Please be aware that they are looking mainly for the past 5 years and hence apply from the location that you have been living in the past 5 years. If you have moved around for work and have relocated and lived in other places for long, it's safe to get the clearance from these places as well. One recommendation would be to get a local clearance from the local police station before applying because the Office of the Police Commissioner always assigns the case to the local police and this would help build a stronger case for you. But finally we acquired all the PCC's and my wife mailed them out by DHL (2 day shipping- Costed her Rs3000/$50).
I met with my Agent, gave them the documents, Originals of Mine and Her Birth Certificate, Marriage Certificate, PCC's received. Finally mailed out the documents on May 5th 2013.
And we waited, I called on May 17th 2013 and was told my case was closed on May 15th 2013 and they are looking for an Interview date at the consulate. I waited for like 20 days and I was notified that our Interview date was for the 2X th of July 2013. I was a bit upset but still it's a waiting game.
Third Phase: (Interview Process)
We got ready for the Interview, I sent my wife copies of all the documents I had sent out. I-130,AOS, DS-230, Copy of the Appointment Letter. We managed to get everything set up on the Travel site. Created a profile, looked through the reviews of the Mumbai consulate, seemed pretty positive but did not want to take chances on anything. We got our wedding album, tons of pictures and copies of all documents in case we were asked to provide.
2 weeks before the Interview my wife got a call from the consulate saying they had to reschedule our interview for the 3X of July 2013. When asked for a reason, they wouldn't give one and told her it was due to the holidays. My naive wife accepted the fact and called me up to update me. it was 5 am and was not expecting this at all. I called the Consulate and told them I am not backing out since I am not aware of any Indian/ American holidays falling in the time frame and that we had booked tickets for the interview as per the appointment letter. I was asked to send an email to the consulate. I wrote them a detailed letter with the calculated costs and losses and requested them to pre-pone the dates if possible. Finally I received and email saying, I got my interview date back for the original interview date 2Xth of July 2013. Honest to god, I was scared what I was going to be facing at the time of the Interview.
On the day of the it was not bad, there were a lot of people waiting to be Interviewed. Please check the Visa journey Mumbai consulate reviews for more Interview questions. it's the same questions repeated over and over again. "How do you know", What do you like about him?, How many people came to the wedding.... blah blah blah... One advice is.. Stay Confident, smile always, be pleasant, prepare well, think before you jump into the answer, if you do not understand the question, ask them to repeat the question. At the end of the interview, she was told she was approved and she should be receiving the visa package in a week's timeframe.
After 2 days, we had to track her passport and realized that the "track my passport" option do not work if you cut and copy the passport #. You have to key it in to get more accurate updates.
Finally she picked up the passport. Made sure the details are correct and picked up the Visa package.
Once the Alien # was received and the package was picked up, I made the payment of $165 to receive the green card in mail.
My wife would be travelling over soon and finally the waiting journey ends soon!!! Please contact me if you have any questions. I am not an expert but I can definitely help/ find somebody who can help.
Thanks,
Chris

The problem is that OP does not seem to want her out of his home. At least, he does not want her forcibly taken out unless she consents to leaving herself. It seems you want her out but are not willing to get your hands dirty in the process. Perhaps you may still have feelings for her? Or maybe you're just too nice. If you won't kick her out yourself, I doubt the USCIS or the government will be able to help you.

Have you tried contacting a senator and having them to request that the case stay at the embassy and give him a second interview? Also you can contact the embassy as well and ask them for a phone interview with you so that you can answer some questions for them. Send them evidence of your wedding plans, maybe this will help with showing your seriousness of your relationship. Good luck
Sooo many people always say show money like pay pal and western union transfers. But for high fraud countries this is not suggestible because it just looks like that person is taking your money, and this comes from two people I know who used to work at embassies and work in the office with me now.
And don't cry, it will be okay. I know you have to cry a little. Then you finish crying and think about your next step. You will make it through.

Don't make plans around immigration reform. Make plans around what is best for your family
good luck

Hello there
Sorry to hear about your situation. I hope all your surgeries go well. I am a nurse so I know it can be difficult for people in your situation to go in and out of hospital. And understand that you need support from someone. While you definatley need support and help from someone you do have to take into account that a situation such as yours requires someone who is dedicated and totally committed. You and your fiance have not met in person and whiles things are great while chatting on the phone and skypeing the reality of living together can pose a challenge and to be honest it's not the kind of challenge for someone who has not even had the experiance of seeing what your day to day routine will require and how he would be able to help you, let alone if it is something he can do without feeling overwhelmed. Someone asked how old your fiancee is and i do believe thats a good question to ask. you say your 53. i would hope he is around the same age group. if not and he is significantly younger then you , i would be very catious about the whole situation. Pls consider all of this. I urge you to find a way to meet face to face before pursuing a k1 visa. As Harper Timsah said you do face a Red flag Regardless of your situation. If you cannot travel he will have to do the travelling to see you. I have yet to hear of a approval where both parties have not actually met face to face. If there are cases such as then they would be tough to gain an approval. you would have to prove that he is unable to come and see you due to certain circumstances and provide documents to back this up. They already know about why you cannot go see him but the question is why can't he come see you. I hope this works in your favour but if you do wish to continue on this k1 journey you and your fiance will need to meet. Good luck on your journey. For what it's worth I do sympathise with you and hope they make a exception in your case. I also hope your fiance is up to the job of being there for you and is able to take care of you. Good luck and god bless.

Zoila and I arrived in Honolulu together on Saturday 7/20/2013. We are now on my home island. Immigration was a bit nervewracking in Honolulu...but all questions asked of my wife were questions she knew the answers to since we have a bonafide marriage. Immigration officer had me stand back as she asked my wife 10 or 15 questions. What is your address going to be, your husbands parents names, etc... No surpirises. The Immigration officer (female) was very kind to my wife and I. She called me up after interviewing Zoila and explained the AOS procedures to both of us. Then after a few minutes took my wifes fingerprints and said those three words we both have been waiting to hear for over 8 month now, "WELCOME TO AMERICA" Wow, we both wanted to shout be we managed to control ourselves although I got pretty teary-eyed. There is something about coming HOME to America each and every time I return but this was the sweetest entry into the US I have ever made in my life. I was with my beautiful Filipina wife...nothing could have been better. Then we exited immigration and proceeded to our interisland flight arriving there at about 6:00 p.m. to find my brothers wife and their three grandchildren there to greet us with handfuls of flower lei. Then my oldest son came and picked us up. One of the best days of my life so far. Thanks to all ot you who have helped, thanks for all of your prayers, thanks for all your kindness. GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME!! We wish everyone the best and will be praying for all of you that are waiting for the day we just experienced. Aloha and Mahalo Aloha Ke Akua

Congratulations! We serve a mighty God!

Amen n glory to God!!! Congratulations!!!

glory be to God!!!!!!!

God is faithful. Congratulations!!!!!!

YAY YAY YAY. Nothing is impossible with God. Everybody scare of Lagos WHY? You should only be scared if you don't know God.
You notice those being approved who is getting first honor and praise. What a mighty mighty God we serve. wooo whoooo I am happy for you.
I am not surprised. I am over the moon joyously happy. Hallelujah!!

To God be the glory, congrats

Wonderful news. He is more than worthy to be praised.

PRAISE GOD EVERYONE!! THANKS TO ALL VJ MEMBERS, MY FIANCEE WAS JUST GRANTED VISA AND NO ONE SINGLE QUESTION WAS ASKED. MIRACLE HAPPENED. JESUS TOOK ALL THE GLORY AND CONTROL OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES. NO QUESTION ASKED

Thank you for posting that link! It gave us so much hope:) He too is doing it for moral reasons. Really, thank you:)

I strongly believe vaccinations are harmful to your overall health. I would not like to expose my fiancee to that. Has anyone applied for a Vaccination Requirement Waiver? How did it go?

Does this mean you should be a veg?

CHRISTIANITY
The bible teaches that there are unclean animals and that we are not to put the unclean into our bodies (Deuteronomy 14). – Vaccines are made from blood products and tissue of animals. (Read, ‘The Sanctity of Human Blood: Vaccination $s not Immunization’ by Tim O’Shea for more on this).
Ye shall not eat of anything that dieth of itself; (Deuteronomy 14:21) and hut flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. (Genesis 9:4) – i.e. you should not be putting anything from an animal or its blood into your body.
What? Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own. For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. (I Corinthians 6:19,20) – i.e. your body is a temple which houses the Holy Spirit and so you have to look after it and not pollute it.
'"We must obey God rather than men." (Acts 5:29) – i.e. Vaccination is an artificial invention made by man to alter immune function. The immune system, on the other hand, is a natural function given by God to protect us from disease. Trusting in manmade vaccination is like saying that we think God didn’t make us correctly and that we need artificially ‘boosting’ in order to survive.
In the Book of Wisdom of Sirach (a section of the bible cut out by King James), Chapter 38,: verse 4 " The Lord has created medicines out of the earth and a sensible man will not refuse them." - God did not give us drugs, but He did give us plants and herbs and tells us to use them if we are 'sensible.' To be 'sensible' means to use your own mind and not follow man just because you are told to. This section of the bible was probably cut out because of its reference to natural medicines.
MORMONISM
Mormons also refer to the bible in conjunction with the book of Mormon, so the above passages should apply to them also. As well as this, their organisation has made it clear they are against termination of pregnancy, and it is known that MMR, MR, Rubella, Varicella (Chickenpox) and other vaccines contain human diploid cells cultured from aborted foetuses.
The First Presidency, which is the governing body and highest ranking quorum in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, has said, "Abortion must be considered one of the most revolting and sinful practices in this day." (First Presidency (Spencer W. Kimball, N. Eldon Tanner, Marion G. Romney), Priesthood Bulletin, Salt Lake City, Utah: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Feb. 1973, p. 1-2.
Clearly, if a Mormon then vaccinates their child with a vaccine containing aborted foetus, this constitutes a contradiction of faith. Their own founder, Joseph Smith, also stated: " Trust in God when sick, and live by faith and not by medicine or poison." (11th edition of the encyclopedia of Brittanica).
ROMAN CATHOLOCISM
Catholics also have the same stance on termination and vaccination:
They called the use of human foetal tissue in vaccination, ‘a kind of evil which is widespread in biomedical research and which people rightly think they should combat when they can.
‘The practice of medicine is being made parasitic on the evils of abortion and foetal experimentation and refusing vaccination is one way of seeking to turn medicine from a course which will increasingly subvert people’s confidence in it.’ (Catholic Bishops Conference of England and Wales, 1994).
JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES
Jehovah’s Witnesses have historically been against vaccination because it is contrary to scriptures, and their religion totally banned it up until 1952, although in more recent years they have stated it is up to the individual Jehovah’s Witness to decide: "As vaccination is a direct injection of animal matter in the blood stream, vaccination is a direct violation of the law of Jehovah God." (The Golden Age publication, 1935 April 2 p. 465).
"Oh, yes, serums vaccines, toxins, inoculations, are all -harmless', because the man who is selling them says so. You, my friends, believe this LIE, and continue to submit your body to these violations; then all I can say is, 'God have mercy on your soul'. All vaccination is unphysiological, a crime against nature." (Consolation 1939 May 31 p. 8).
‘Would it be proper to accept a vaccination or some other medical injection containing albumin derived from human blood? Witnesses have long realized that this is a matter for private decision in accord with each one’s Bible-trained conscience. Some Christians who feel that they can in good conscience accept such injections have noted that antibodies from the blood of a pregnant woman cross into the blood of the baby in her womb.” (The Watchtower, October 1, 1994).
The reason for this about turn? In 1952, when Jehovah’s Witnesses lifted the ban on vaccination, they wrote: "The matter of vaccination is one for the individual that has to face it to decide for himself. . . . And our Society cannot afford to be drawn into the affair legally or take the responsibility for the way the case turns out." (my emphasis – The Watchtower, 15 December 1952).
Essentially they still disagreed with vaccination but were too afraid of the medical profession taking legal action against them.
. BUDDHISM
Buddhists are vegetarians according to their religious believe and there is NO vaccine which is vegetarian. All vaccinations have to be cultured on animal and human tissue and blood products.
‘Scientists depend upon animal tissue to produce the viral strains found in vaccines. The Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) vaccine, for instance, contains live strains of each of these three viruses.’ (vegfamily.com).
You can easily find this information by going into your pharmacy and asking for a vaccine data sheet. Buddhists and others from vegetarian philosophies would be in conflict with vaccination.
JEWS
Jews also have strict dietary requirements as part of their religion and have to eat or take into the body, animal parts which are KOSHER.
Rabbi Simon Dahan recently highlighted this controversy with the latest bird flu scare, when it emerged that the bird flu vaccinations given to livestock may not be kosher, therefore rendering poultry products unsuitable for Jewish people:
“If they conduct the vaccination on the lungs or the neck, the animal might not be kosher anymore,” Dahan said.
“According to Talmudic laws if the oesophagus or the trachea is mutilated, the animal is not considered kosher anymore,” he added, considering that if the vaccination would be considered as some kind of mutilation by Jewish law. Furthermore, vaccinating the poultry in the leg might also be a problem because the operation might alter some the animal fragile nerves, which are supposed to stay untouched by the same Talmudic laws,” (European Jewish Press, February 2006).
Vaccines for people may also be made with animals that aren’t kosher, making them against Jewish law.
ISLAM
Allah says, “We have indeed created man in the best of moulds.” (95:4). The Arabic word in this verse is taqweem, which can be translated as mold, form, nature, constitution. Although this especially refers to the spiritual nature of man, it can also mean the mental and physical structure. There is no faulty in Allah’s creation. Allah gave man the purest and best nature, and perfection and balance are evident in man’s physical, mental, and spiritual composition. Allah, subhanahu wa ta’la, says,
“O mankind! What has made you careless concerning your Lord, the Most Generous? Who created you, fashioned you, and gave you due proportion; in whatever form He willed, He put you together.” (Qur’an 82:6-8).
Focusing on the physical aspect, one need only study the systems of the body to comprehend the significance of these verses and the wonder of Allah’s creation. The human body is composed of a number of specialized systems: the digestive system, the respiratory system, the nervous system, the muscular system, the blood circulation system, the skeleton, the skin, the senses, the immune system and so forth. Each one of these system is miraculous in nature and more amazing than any scientific advancement that man can achieve. (Sayyid Qutb, In the Shade of the Qur’an). Why then is man so heedless? Why does he overlook the wonders of his own constitution? Why does he neglect the One who gave him these special gifts? “O mankind! What has made you careless concerning our Lord, the Most Generous?” Why does he think that he can improve the perfect creation of Allah and make it work more effectively?
Concerning immunizations, this is exactly what humans are attempting to do. The assumption behind them is that the body is not “perfect” enough to withstand infectious diseases; that somehow Allah did not complete his job or carry it out well enough (astaghfir Allah); that the immune system is faulty and needs correction; that a young baby, as little as 1 or 2 months old, is somehow flawed, incomplete, and in need of human intervention to survive. All of these assumptions are erroneous and reflect a skepticism that should not be present in the belief system of a Muslim. This may seem like an intense subject for what would appear to be a straight forward issue, but a deeper level of analysis is required here. One cannot doubt the verses of the Qur’an highlighted above nor expect that he can accomplish more than Allah. As Muslims we should not fall into this kind of trap. We must believe in the perfection of Allah’s creation and understand that immunizations are in no way able to improve upon it. Chances are that they will only disturb the system and introduce an imperfection, (which is already being determined by research).
By Dr. Aisha Hamdan

I don't want to start here a discussion about the medical advantages or detriments of vaccinations. There are better places to discuss that (i.e. www.mercola.com). However one basic fact about vaccination seems to be misunderstood here by few posters claiming the requirement is to protect United States citizens from infectious deseases. If a foreign citizen caries an infection with her/him the vaccination will not heal that desease, it would be too late for that. Vaccination only protects during the time after not before. So if the person enters US after the vaccination those vaccines can only protect her/him from getting infected by US citizens.
The worst part with this requirement regardless if good or bad is that it chips on ones personal rights. It trains future US citizens to give up their rights right at the very begin by harassing them with lengthy processing times if they try execute their rights.

As a natural health care practitioner, the vaccine requirements kill me too. I do not get vaccines and hate that my soon-to-be-family will be getting them (especially the same vaccine that caused lifetime injuries to me at age 18). I have heard there's a waiver, but it adds months to your process, and that there is a good chance they will deny the waiver. It's hard to get a waiver for vaccines in most states, so it's understandable that it would be worse on the federal level. I do understand why the US has the requirement, and am looking at it as a small hurdle to get into the country. Once he and the kids are here, we'll discuss what we'll do with the family going forward. If he wants to continue to vaccinate him and his boys for life, then it's a decision I will agree with. But I'll continue to laugh at the health department every year when they call me asking if I've had my flu shot

Sorry but this thread is plain ridiculous, I have not been on these immigration forums for a little while as I have been busy emigrating and settling in the USA.
There are three pages of garbage posted here that is nothing but hear say and peoples opinions.I am pretty certain that few, if any of the people that are telling somebody what not to do have even been through the application process for a vaccine waiver. I have and I was approved, in 5 weeks. My only argument to receive the waiver was that it was against my moral/religious beliefs, which is exactly what the waiver is there for. I applied for a vaccine waiver in London in April and moved to America on May 25th. I got my green card in the mail 2 weeks later and it states quite clearly that I received a vaccination requirement waiver.
To anybody that genuinely is opposed to vaccines as they are against your moral beliefs or religion, DO NOT listen to all these nay sayers here that say it's impossible to get one and that takes for ever, I read the same rubbish when I was applying. It is not impossible to get a waiver and if you feel so strongly about it then the extra expense and possible delay in waiting for your waiver wont even matter to you, it didn't matter to me and yes had they denied me, I would have appealed, gone to court, not moved to America, whatever was necessary. I am opposed to receiving vaccines and thats my belief and I am entitled to it, the US immigration law even has a legal clause for such things.
I have posted my experiences on immigrate2us.net and britishexpats forums if it is any help to anyone, search my username and you will find my posts.

Praise be to God and Jesus our Saviour. I want to thank you for your testimony, but more importantly your recognition to God. I have seen many posts of frustration, doubt, and some even discouraging but one thing I can say is that if God be for us who can be against us. God does nothing out of timing all good things come from Him and He desires to make His children happy. I give all praise to Him because He has blessed my journey thus far. I want to say Aaamen to all that you have said in your post, He is a prayer answering God. If we would only trust Him enough and put Him first in everything we would not onlysee the blessings but also reap His blessings. I will keep you in my prayers that God will continue to bless your journey and that you will continue to be faithful to Him until He sends His Son to come in the clouds of glory which is not very far off. Jesus is coming soon let us be ready! Congrats

Such a beautiful story and I have to say that I feel probably exactly the same way or very similar about my current journey with my dear sweet Marina. We met online 3.5 years ago and I have seen God's grace, providence and perfect timing many times through our journey together. It hasn't been easy all the time, but The Good Lord has carried us through the storms and we're still standing for whatever purpose He has for our lives. Good luck to all and never lose hope... peace