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I do see a judgment here, twice - "you're looking to not pay for something you got." That's not how I read this. He didn't know if she was eligible. He DID ask, and was told no. He accepted that and was looking for alternate methods when *they* contacted *him* to say oh you're in luck, we found a way to get you covered. He thought, "oh, thank goodness" - not knowing that the way they did it was to falsify a piece of information that he clearly gave them *accurately*.
Now, the issue is that if he had researched alternative ways, he would have gotten *assistance* with the situation, as someone in need of help because he did not have coverage. Anyone who has ever had a lapse in coverage knows that medical providers will work with patients of lesser means to assist them in meeting their obligations. Typically, they charge them quite a bit less.
That didn't happen for OP, because medicaid told him he was covered. So his wife's care was billed at full price.
Whatever you might think about the fact that different people pay different amounts for the same services, it's a fact. And the fact is, OP would have been billed less for everything had he used alternative resources to pay for the pregnancy.
So now OP has been billed at the "insured" rate and is being told he has to pay back at that rate. When it's not his fault that he was billed at that rate - he was honest and legitimately believed he was covered. Now what he has to pay back is way more than what his bills would have been had medicaid stayed with their original judgment of turning him down.
That is, in fact, not fair to OP, as it was Medicaid's mistake.
He's not looking not to pay for the care. He's looking to pay what he *legitimately* owes - which is the reduced rate offered to under- or un- insured patients. There's nothing wrong with that.
Just my 2 cents.
M

Ewwwww...
I think you meant "swatted at"

If I were sleeping nekkid (LOL) in the bed with my fiance right now, I'd be holding a little bit of everything!
M

Well, we don't know how and why your gf's marriage is not working out so far. We certainly don't know your gf or her character, and she's not a horrible person for her marriage not working out as planned. But in life, it's always best to finish something before starting something else up. Just for your sake, it would be advisable for her to divorce her husband first and do what she's gotta do, then if you guys still want to be together after that is done, then you can go ahead and pursue the relationship.

I don't know you, I don't know her, but you said she got her "about 6 months ago". That means she's under 6 months married. She was "meant" to have been so in love with her fiance (now husband) that it should still be all good. I know rationally relationships aren't perfect, but you certainly don't want to be the rebound, and especially in a visa/GC situation where I assume her USC husband would be concerned she used him. Given what you've said, he would be fair in this assessment and you would be caught up in all that drama and anger. Better to wait until she sorts out her situation OR she divorces, leaves and you file for her. I personally wouldn't, she's shown that her fiance's don't hold her fancy for long.

My thoughts exactly

I agree with the above; it's the cleanest and surest method.
She could stay with her husband and get the GC and then divorce and marry you but when it comes time to ROC and get her 10 year GC; the timelines will look fishy and a visa fraud decision could be rendered.
She could divorce her husband and then try to AOS on her own. If she is not sent back and is given the GC, then you two could get married and then a similar ROC attempt be made.
I will also refrain from commenting on why you would be engaging conversation that leads to "love" with a newly married woman?!!

I wrote a long thesis but I think it was judgemental so I won't post it.
Anyways good luck to you all and consider not having kids together immediately.

Bad situation all around. Dont do it.

They're not equally likely to be implemented. Sharing the petitions across the offices has been done historically. Hiring more adjudicators would require additional funds. Your solution is extremely unlikely.
There is *nothing* wrong with naming reality. It's not raining on anyone's parade to say that everyone should have approximately the same wait time. It's just the truth.
M

Ahhhhh.....you are getting very close to your NOA2 now.
I'm gonna win the bet....

My "touch" date never changed prior to NOA2. It went from my NOA1 date to my NOA2date and I was watching it obsessively. I was at the CSC though. VSC might be different?

OMG girl I'm right there with you but he's my husband not fiance, and I've been away from mine for 4 months less. Stay strong and contact me if you ever want to rant!

Ah - thank you for the clarification.
I understand her point though - she's not saying she should be skipped to the head of the line. She just realizes that if the line doesn't start moving, all of our wait times get longer no matter where we are in the line. No reason she shouldn't speak up about an inequity that affects her as well as so many others.
M

Wow, this is just off the charts ... most of these posts in fact are very sad, but are under no ones control. All terrible and unfortunate, but again, there really isn't a way to manage someone not getting cancer, or stoping a suicide bomber.
The facts here is that we are talking about service centers, application processing centers that do the same type of work on the same type of applications. If the system were properly managed, ie. workload distribution, divide and conquer, etc. The issue, mainly one center servicing June apps, and the other just serving Feb, would in fact be mitigated.
There are unfortunate things in this world that no one has control over, and with that we are just humbled. But this issue with the service center processing in silos can in fact be resolved with proper strategies.

I didn't say it's not stressful. Of course it is. I said it's different. Being stressed and together is 1000% better than being stressed and apart.
My 13 month old baby has never met his father. Believe me, I would take an additional 10 years of stress for myself if that little boy could have his daddy home a couple months sooner.
If you don't see that being together is better than being apart I don't know what else to say.
M

I didn't say it's not stressful. Of course it is. I said it's different. Being stressed and together is 1000% better than being stressed and apart.
My 13 month old baby has never met his father. Believe me, I would take an additional 10 years of stress for myself if that little boy could have his daddy home a couple months sooner.
If you don't see that being together is better than being apart I don't know what else to say.
M

I didn't say it's not stressful. Of course it is. I said it's different. Being stressed and together is 1000% better than being stressed and apart.
My 13 month old baby has never met his father. Believe me, I would take an additional 10 years of stress for myself if that little boy could have his daddy home a couple months sooner.
If you don't see that being together is better than being apart I don't know what else to say.
M

You're kidding, right?
You can't compare a single case to a single case. But you can certainly compare averages. Right now, CSC is working on May/June. VSC is working on February. Get the facts.
M

You're together during this time, right? Apples & oranges.
M

Yes, just keep it to the basics of how, where and when you met face to face within the last 2 years.

You're kidding, right?
You can't compare a single case to a single case. But you can certainly compare averages. Right now, CSC is working on May/June. VSC is working on February. Get the facts.
M

You're together during this time, right? Apples & oranges.
M

They're not equally likely to be implemented. Sharing the petitions across the offices has been done historically. Hiring more adjudicators would require additional funds. Your solution is extremely unlikely.
There is *nothing* wrong with naming reality. It's not raining on anyone's parade to say that everyone should have approximately the same wait time. It's just the truth.
M

Simply put... because we all pay the same fee, we should all get the same degree of service.