Child derivatives removed after being documentarily qualified

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Child derivatives suddenly removed after notified that our case is documentarily qualified all payments for IV has been paid and all documents of the removed applicants has been accepted but suddenly has been removed without being notified why.

[powerpuff 6,729]

It would be helpful if you provided details like visa category, PD, etc.

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5 minutes ago, powerpuff said:

It would be helpful if you provided details like visa category, PD, etc.

Hello thank you for the notice,

Visa Category: F4

Priority Date: 14 December 2004

Approval Date: 09 June 2009

 

[powerpuff 6,729]

My first guess would be that they aged out. 

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1 minute ago, powerpuff said:

My first guess would be that they aged out. 

Birthday of the child derivatives are:

Feb 22 1999 (Currently 25 years old)

April 22 2002 ( Currently 22 years old)

[jan22 3,056]

I agree, it is likely because of aging out.  The CSPA age protection cannot be calculated exactly, since the Priority Date is not yet current, assuming you are from the Philippines.  The current PD is 02/01/2004 — 10 months before your PD.

 

it is clear, however, that the older “child” has aged out from CSPA protection even if the PD was current as of this month.  The petition was pending approval for 4 years, 5 months, and 29 days.  So, as long as a visa number is available (I.e., the PD is current) before they turn 25 years, 5 months, and 29 days old, they would qualify for the visa.  As of October 1, 2024 (this month), the older child was 25 years, 7 months, 10 days old and has aged out.

 

There is still a possibility that the younger one will qualify, although it will likely be close.  He/she is currently (as of Oct 1), 21 years, 9 months, and 20 days old (although you said 22 years old).  If a visa number is available in the next +/-3 years 8 months or so, the younger will not age out.
 

The PD has to advance more than 10 months before their PD will be current.  Historically, the F-4 PD moves very slowly, if at all, during a Fiscal Year.  For example, looking at the F-4 PD for Phillipines on October 1 of the last five years, it was:

• Oct 2024      2/1/2004
• Oct 2023    8/22/2002
• Oct 2022    8/22/2002
• Oct 2021     8/22/2002
• Oct 2020        1/1 2002

So, for 3 years prior to this year, the PD did not move at all.  It made a large jump this year, but it is unlikely to do so again.  

I would likely send an e-mail to NVC, asking about this, especially highlighting that the younger “child” has not yet definitely aged out of CSPA protection.

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19 hours ago, jan22 said:

I agree, it is likely because of aging out.  The CSPA age protection cannot be calculated exactly, since the Priority Date is not yet current, assuming you are from the Philippines.  The current PD is 02/01/2004 — 10 months before your PD.

 

it is clear, however, that the older “child” has aged out from CSPA protection even if the PD was current as of this month.  The petition was pending approval for 4 years, 5 months, and 29 days.  So, as long as a visa number is available (I.e., the PD is current) before they turn 25 years, 5 months, and 29 days old, they would qualify for the visa.  As of October 1, 2024 (this month), the older child was 25 years, 7 months, 10 days old and has aged out.

 

There is still a possibility that the younger one will qualify, although it will likely be close.  He/she is currently (as of Oct 1), 21 years, 9 months, and 20 days old (although you said 22 years old).  If a visa number is available in the next +/-3 years 8 months or so, the younger will not age out.
 

The PD has to advance more than 10 months before their PD will be current.  Historically, the F-4 PD moves very slowly, if at all, during a Fiscal Year.  For example, looking at the F-4 PD for Phillipines on October 1 of the last five years, it was:

• Oct 2024      2/1/2004
• Oct 2023    8/22/2002
• Oct 2022    8/22/2002
• Oct 2021     8/22/2002
• Oct 2020        1/1 2002

So, for 3 years prior to this year, the PD did not move at all.  It made a large jump this year, but it is unlikely to do so again.  

I would likely send an e-mail to NVC, asking about this, especially highlighting that the younger “child” has not yet definitely aged out of CSPA protection.

Hello thank you for this very informative response of your today i will send an email to nvc via public inquiry form i hope it would be helpful because as of others experience nvc public inquiry isn’t helpful at all some even says that it’s like bot responding to inquiries.

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20 hours ago, jan22 said:

I agree, it is likely because of aging out.  The CSPA age protection cannot be calculated exactly, since the Priority Date is not yet current, assuming you are from the Philippines.  The current PD is 02/01/2004 — 10 months before your PD.

 

it is clear, however, that the older “child” has aged out from CSPA protection even if the PD was current as of this month.  The petition was pending approval for 4 years, 5 months, and 29 days.  So, as long as a visa number is available (I.e., the PD is current) before they turn 25 years, 5 months, and 29 days old, they would qualify for the visa.  As of October 1, 2024 (this month), the older child was 25 years, 7 months, 10 days old and has aged out.

 

There is still a possibility that the younger one will qualify, although it will likely be close.  He/she is currently (as of Oct 1), 21 years, 9 months, and 20 days old (although you said 22 years old).  If a visa number is available in the next +/-3 years 8 months or so, the younger will not age out.
 

The PD has to advance more than 10 months before their PD will be current.  Historically, the F-4 PD moves very slowly, if at all, during a Fiscal Year.  For example, looking at the F-4 PD for Phillipines on October 1 of the last five years, it was:

• Oct 2024      2/1/2004
• Oct 2023    8/22/2002
• Oct 2022    8/22/2002
• Oct 2021     8/22/2002
• Oct 2020        1/1 2002

So, for 3 years prior to this year, the PD did not move at all.  It made a large jump this year, but it is unlikely to do so again.  

I would likely send an e-mail to NVC, asking about this, especially highlighting that the younger “child” has not yet definitely aged out of CSPA protection.

Also i think there is a chance there is a system error because the fact that they let us upload and pay for our IV fees before they removed our names our submitted documents are accepted. They just instructed  us to in order to be documentarily qualified we need to add our primary petitioners husband but after we qualified child derivatives suddenly removed without any notice.