Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?

[Tanjay 0]

All I know is that I want my NOA2 NOW!!!! It is 135 days since I sent my petition and that is waaaay to long to wait

It shows on the charts here that 131 days is the average waiting time for NOA2. You are already 4 days past that. I'm at 130 days wait today..... Hope we hear some news soon!!!!!

Edited October 6, 2007 by Tanjay

[Jamie76 0]

You guys are going to be soon. I think the average should be closer to 140 days.

[delbertjohnson 0]

Hello Friends,,,,

I'm over 140 days with no touches. I've called several times using different tactics but no reliable information given.I know surely sometime within this month all of May filers will receive their NOA2's.We just have to believe in the unseen powers above. It's all we have to believe in.

Keeping the faith!!!!!!

[Bob & Kim 0]

Hello Friends,,,,

I'm over 140 days with no touches. I've called several times using different tactics but no reliable information given.I know surely sometime within this month all of May filers will receive their NOA2's.We just have to believe in the unseen powers above. It's all we have to believe in.

Keeping the faith!!!!!!

I have faith in the Lord, but no faith whatsoever in the clowns that have the power to use their free will to screw us by setting an unreasonable 6mo period (which they can change anytime they want) to process our petitions while giving 2month and shorter goals to other types of VISAs and offering 15-day premium processing to them as well. They have been getting away with treating our citizens and their loved ones like this because too many people just cower and wait for something good to happen versus working to get the system improved.

Edited October 6, 2007 by Bob & Kim

[chris4gretchen 1]

So since we finally received NOA1 hardcopy today we just updated our timeline and so next time bszoom has time to make another list we will finally be in it! But since the order on his list is by the date when people received NOA1 we will be at the end of the list! CSC received our package on 06-13 which would put us somewhere around number 145 but since we received our replacement receipt notice on 10-05 (since we never received the original), it will put us somewhere around number 355! That´s unfair Could the list be in the order of how petitions were sent please?

On your NOA1 what does your recieved date say? not the notice date. that is what he goes by for the list.

Chris

The list goes by the 'notice date' and not the 'received date'. I really think there should be a box on the VJ timeline to input the 'received date' when people get their NOA1's as this is the date that USCIS are supposed to roughly order the petitions by. Because of the receipting issues recently many people are much earlier filers than they appear to be if the data is in order of NOA1 'notice date'.

Still, the list bszoom created gives an indication of the numbers involved and if this is 10% roughly of total filers then it gives us all an indication of what timeframe we might be looking at for approval. I hate to be critical when I haven't done any spreadsheeting myself I'm really grateful for the efforts of all those providing data for us to compare

the VJ timeline goes by notice date. In my statement, "he" refers to Bszoom42 who goes by the recieved date. that is what i was refering to since the original poster was asking about Bszooms list. Not the VJ timeline. Bszoom correctly stated how the service centers use the recieved date in these posts here,

first post

and here

second post

i orginially thought using the notice date was correct but he convinced me otherwise. once i really read my I 797Cit clearly says

"Receipt notice- this notice confirms that USCIS received your application or petition ("this case") as shown above. if you do not receive an initial decision or update from us within our current processing time, check our website or call"

clearly they mean the received date listed on the notice, not the notice date. VJ happens to not use this.

i think this has been hashed and rehashed. i guess you decide what list you want ot go off of and do that one. for me its bszooms, not VJ going off the notice date, or the July filers that also now uses it. For me i am consistant. i use my received date on any list since that to me is the correct date to use.

Chris

Edited October 6, 2007 by chris4gretchen

[Jeraly 4]

I give up on the whole date thing Tbh if there are people who filed roughly the same time of me then the probability is that we will get processed in roughly the same time - of course this isn't always the case but we can only work on averages anyway so

[calamitka 0]

Well, my received date on NOA1 hardcopy is August 1, notice date August 22, and USCIS case status online is telling me that they received I – 129 F on August 21, 2007 which I guess is the date when they entered the case into the system.

Anyone has any idea how much the online status is irrelevant B) to the actual (pile of papers in the officer desk)case order?

They will honor received date but which one 08. 01(hardcopy) or 08. 21(online)??

[Bill y Bella 0]

Well, my received date on NOA1 hardcopy is August 1, notice date August 22, and USCIS case status online is telling me that they received I – 129 F on August 21, 2007 which I guess is the date when they entered the case into the system.

Anyone has any idea how much the online status is irrelevant B) to the actual (pile of papers in the officer desk)case order?

They will honor received date but which one 08. 01(hardcopy) or 08. 21(online)??

According to zoomer, the received date printed on the hard copy of your NOA1 (August 1) is the relevant date for USCIS prioritization and aging. Follow the links in Chris's post above to read zoomer's posts.

In the very lengthy discussion of this question on another thread the majority of people including Capt Ewok (VJ Admin) eventually agreed with zoomer.

However, VJ continues to instruct members to enter the notice date in their timelines. I tried to get them to change it to received date but have not had any luck. VJ feels that historically the NOA1 hard copy received date and notice date were the same and there is no reason to make a change since eventually this will resume being the case.

[calamitka 0]

Ok I m convinced about the received date. Thank you Bill y Bella.

My husband has just scanned NOA1 for me. Explanations by phone about all this dates was a bit confusing. I’m in Poland now and for “learning language purpose ”as a K3 beneficiary I decided to take care of all this process. I really, really have no idea in what I jumped in. Not to mention that the vacation in Poland has turned into months of waiting.

[afterforever 0]

You guys are going to be soon. I think the average should be closer to 140 days.

Let's hope that average does not keep getting pushed further and further away. I am still hoping for this month.

I was hoping to see some people posting approvals today from yesterday but nothing so far.

Good luck to everyone

Edited October 7, 2007 by afterforever

[bakofoil 27]

So since we finally received NOA1 hardcopy today we just updated our timeline and so next time bszoom has time to make another list we will finally be in it! But since the order on his list is by the date when people received NOA1 we will be at the end of the list! CSC received our package on 06-13 which would put us somewhere around number 145 but since we received our replacement receipt notice on 10-05 (since we never received the original), it will put us somewhere around number 355! That´s unfair Could the list be in the order of how petitions were sent please?

On your NOA1 what does your recieved date say? not the notice date. that is what he goes by for the list.

Chris

The list goes by the 'notice date' and not the 'received date'. I really think there should be a box on the VJ timeline to input the 'received date' when people get their NOA1's as this is the date that USCIS are supposed to roughly order the petitions by. Because of the receipting issues recently many people are much earlier filers than they appear to be if the data is in order of NOA1 'notice date'.

Still, the list bszoom created gives an indication of the numbers involved and if this is 10% roughly of total filers then it gives us all an indication of what timeframe we might be looking at for approval. I hate to be critical when I haven't done any spreadsheeting myself I'm really grateful for the efforts of all those providing data for us to compare

the VJ timeline goes by notice date. In my statement, "he" refers to Bszoom42 who goes by the recieved date. that is what i was refering to since the original poster was asking about Bszooms list. Not the VJ timeline. Bszoom correctly stated how the service centers use the recieved date in these posts here,

first post

and here

second post

i orginially thought using the notice date was correct but he convinced me otherwise. once i really read my I 797Cit clearly says

"Receipt notice- this notice confirms that USCIS received your application or petition ("this case") as shown above. if you do not receive an initial decision or update from us within our current processing time, check our website or call"

clearly they mean the received date listed on the notice, not the notice date. VJ happens to not use this.

i think this has been hashed and rehashed. i guess you decide what list you want ot go off of and do that one. for me its bszooms, not VJ going off the notice date, or the July filers that also now uses it. For me i am consistant. i use my received date on any list since that to me is the correct date to use.

Chris

I wasn't arguing what VJ use although I was making a point about how much confusion the VJ timeline causes in terms of which date to input. A point which is clearly illustrated by all the hashing and rehashing going on.

What I was saying is that regardless of whether bszoom uses the received date or not (and I agree with his argument about which date is important on the NOA1), the lists posted on this thread are in order of notice date. All of which means that some July filers are down the bottom of the list with September and October filers. Which, in terms of USCIS processing is incorrect. So if you are going off this list then it is inconsistent by the rule of thumb you have stated. A rule of thumb I agree with by the way.

[bakofoil 27]

Actually, I think your point is that people should be consistently using the 'received date' in the NOA1 date on the VJ timeline. This is so confusing because the VJ timeline is where people are obtaining data from, so if it's not clear to everyone that it has been agreed that the 'received date' is the one to input rather than the 'notice date' which is essentially meaningless. The data, therefore, is going to be incorrectly ordered if the NOA1 field is the one chosen to order petitions. Hence, some people are further down the list than they should be.

I'm not trying to be difficult here. These receipting delays have caused this problem. I can't imagine it was an issue at all when the received date was basically the same as the NOA1 date.

[chris4gretchen 1]

yes that is exactly my point. when there are no delays the received and notice date are close and it doesnt matter. but when there are delays the notice date can be a month or more later. Using that as the date for NOA1 in VJ timeline puts people much further down the list than they should be. Vj has acknowledged that it should be the received date, but they arent going to change it in the instructions since it all comes out in the wash so to speak. They incorrect ones will have a faster NOA1 to NOA2 timline then the correct entered dates.

For me what is the problem is that the people who go over 6 months from the received date might not know they are over it since they are using the Notice date as the important date. My petition clock is running from my received date, and i will be on the phone with them at day 181 from that.

this is where most people get their information or answers in the DIY petition filing. And i think VJ should instruct them that the clock runs from the received date, not the notice date as it alludes to in the Timeline instructions. as far as the lists here, they are only projections and estimations since no one knows the true volume each month at the service centers to know our true number in waiting or statistical percentage of the filers nationwide.

Chris

Edited October 7, 2007 by chris4gretchen

[bakofoil 27]

yes that is exactly my point. when there are no delays the received and notice date are close and it doesnt matter. but when there are delays the notice date can be a month or more later. Using that as the date for NOA1 in VJ timeline puts people much further down the list than they should be. Vj has acknowledged that it should be the received date, but they arent going to change it in the instructions since it all comes out in the wash so to speak. They incorrect ones will have a faster NOA1 to NOA2 timline then the correct entered dates.

For me what is the problem is that the people who go over 6 months from the received date might not know they are over it since they are using the Notice date as the important date. My petition clock is running from my received date, and i will be on the phone with them at day 181 from that.

this is where most people get their information or answers in the DIY petition filing. And i think VJ should instruct them that the clock runs from the received date, not the notice date as it alludes to in the Timeline instructions. as far as the lists here, they are only projections and estimations since no one knows the true volume each month at the service centers to know our true number in waiting or statistical percentage of the filers nationwide.

Chris

Completely agree with you. Sorry about the confusion!

[calamitka 0]

Statistic is kind of estimation of the reality. Since booszom list is created to help us estimate how much longer we have to wait of course the received date of NOA1 is correct. This what I’ve read on USCIS page in the Adjudicator's Field Manual

10. 11. Order of Processing

a) Routine and Expedited Cases . Generally, applications and petitions should be processed in the order in which they are received. Exceptions can, and should, be made for a number of different reasons, and sometimes those reasons may appear to conflict with one another. Reasons for prioritizing certain applications and petitions over others may relate to:

• A statutory requirement, such as the requirement that joint petitions for removal of conditions under the marriage fraud amendments be interviewed within 90 days of filing and adjudicated within 90 days of being interviewed ( section 216 of the Act), or that L-1 petitions be adjudicated within 30 days of filing (section 214(a)(2)© of the Act);

• USCIS -wide policy pertaining to the type of application or petition being filed, such as The USCIS Director's fiscal year priority that backlogs in a given type of application or petition be reduced to a specified level;

• Current events in the homeland of the applicant or beneficiary, such as a natural disaster or civil war;

• Imminent events which may effect the eligibility of the applicant or petitioner, such as the termination of a program whose duration is limited by statute or the "ageing out" of a dependent,

• A need to coordinate actions with other branches of DHS, or with other agencies in order to meet common goals

• To correct an injustice which may have occurred, or to prevent one which may be about to occur.

http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?...8ce159d286150e2

K1, K3 certainly are not subject of USCIS Director's fiscal year priority.

In Poland is voting campaign going on. Can I classified this as a natural disaster .