K-2

[joelunchbox 0]

Please direct me to a thread that covers this or could you tell me the when, who, where of a K-2 visa (bringing her child with her under K-1). thanks, I just can't find the fundamentals of this process..

[YuAndDan 153]

K-2 is generated at the consulate by indicating child on the visa application forms sent to by the consulate, as well as being listed on the original I-129F petition filed by the American petitioner.

A recent post:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...c=78062&hl=

More:

http://www.visajourney.com/faq/k1k2visa-ap...tion.html#4.4.1

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/ty...4.html#Children

[joelunchbox 0]

K-2 is generated at the consulate by indicating child on the visa application forms sent to by the consulate, as well as being listed on the original I-129F petition filed by the American petitioner.

A recent post:

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/ty...4.html#Children[/url]

thank you-that link answered my concerns. basically, a k-2 is intitated automatically when your fiance's children are listed on the i_129f, yes?

[pushbrk 13,884]

K-2 is generated at the consulate by indicating child on the visa application forms sent to by the consulate, as well as being listed on the original I-129F petition filed by the American petitioner.

A recent post:

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/ty...4.html#Children[/url]

thank you-that link answered my concerns. basically, a k-2 is intitated automatically when your fiance's children are listed on the i_129f, yes?

Yes. If they are listed, the Consulate will conclude they are coming and act accordingly, even if they are not.

[payxibka 10,048]

K-2 is generated at the consulate by indicating child on the visa application forms sent to by the consulate, as well as being listed on the original I-129F petition filed by the American petitioner.

A recent post:

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/ty...4.html#Children[/url]

thank you-that link answered my concerns. basically, a k-2 is intitated automatically when your fiance's children are listed on the i_129f, yes?

You need to seperate in your mind the petition process and the visa process. The visa application requires an approved petition.

You must do nothing other than list the child(ren) on the I-129f in the petition process. However, a K-2 visa application is initiated when you send in your forms (DS-156, etc...) it is not automatic much like a K-1 visa application is not automatic. There is a process but it is not totally 100% automatic, they will begin the application process by sending out application materials (once they receive the approved petition) but that is when the "automatic" part of the process ends.

Edited July 16, 2007 by fwaguy

[Yodrak 7]

joelunchbox,

No, it is not automatic. A K2 is initiated when someone submits a visa application to the consulate for the child. This can be done by the K1 parent at the same time they submit their own visa application (the 'traveling with' scenario), or it can be done by the parent or someone else acting on the child's behalf some time after the K1 parent has applied for their own visa (the 'following to join' scenario).

In the case of following to join, the K2 visa must be issued within 1 year of the date that the K1 visa was issued. This time requirement needs to be taken into account when deciding when to apply for the K2 visa.

Yodrak

K-2 is generated at the consulate by indicating child on the visa application forms sent to by the consulate, as well as being listed on the original I-129F petition filed by the American petitioner.

A recent post:

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/ty...4.html#Children[/url]

thank you-that link answered my concerns. basically, a k-2 is intitated automatically when your fiance's children are listed on the i_129f, yes?

[payxibka 10,048]

Yes. If they are listed, the Consulate will conclude they are coming and act accordingly, even if they are not.

Maybe it is me but this makes very little sense.... care to expand your thought? What do you mean the consulates will conclude that they are coming and act accordingly, even if they are not??

[Yodrak 7]

fwaguy,

I'm with you - the consulate will conclude that the children want a visa when a visa application is submitted for them.

Listing children's names on the petition for the parent does not imply that the children will want a visa.

Yodrak

Yes. If they are listed, the Consulate will conclude they are coming and act accordingly, even if they are not.

Maybe it is me but this makes very little sense.... care to expand your thought? What do you mean the consulates will conclude that they are coming and act accordingly, even if they are not??

[pushbrk 13,884]

fwaguy,

I'm with you - the consulate will conclude that the children want a visa when a visa application is submitted for them.

Listing children's names on the petition for the parent does not imply that the children will want a visa.

Yodrak

Yes. If they are listed, the Consulate will conclude they are coming and act accordingly, even if they are not.

Maybe it is me but this makes very little sense.... care to expand your thought? What do you mean the consulates will conclude that they are coming and act accordingly, even if they are not??

How Consulates deal with children can vary but in China for instance, if you list the child on the petition, they presume you want the child to accompany the K1 or 3 visa applicant and "act accordingly" by sending a visa application packet for the child or children. They do this "automatically". If you don't return the application and OF169 for the child, they don't give up. You still have the option of applying later using the packet already sent or another one requested later.

They have even been known to hold up the interview appointment because the child's application was not yet received. If the child is not planning to accompany now or later, it is good to directly inform the Consulate.

I agree that listing the child implies nothing but some, if not all Consulates "infer" that the child or children wish to apply for a visa.

[1HappyGuy 45]

It is pretty obvious that the embassies around the world treat K-2's differently. But for those interested please note that a K-2 visa can be issued up to one year from the original issue of the K-1 visa. The child needs to be under 21 prior to issuance of the visa and if the child is a minor, then you need to check the laws of the country regarding parental rights. You may find it necessary for the non K-1 visa parent to authorize the child to leave the country.

[payxibka 10,048]

I agree that listing the child implies nothing but some, if not all Consulates "infer" that the child or children wish to apply for a visa.

I think your last sentence should be modified as follows...

[pushbrk 13,884]

I agree that listing the child implies nothing but some, if not all Consulates "infer" that the child or children wish to apply for a visa.

I think your last sentence should be modified as follows...

Well, the sentance wouldn't make sense then but, I disagree anyway. Some if not all consulates do infer that children will accompany their K visa parent and act accordingly until informed otherwise.

If you disagree, please provide a counter example.

[payxibka 10,048]

I agree that listing the child implies nothing but some, if not all Consulates "infer" that the child or children wish to apply for a visa.

I think your last sentence should be modified as follows...

Well, the sentance wouldn't make sense then but, I disagree anyway. Some if not all consulates do infer that children will accompany their K visa parent and act accordingly until informed otherwise.

If you disagree, please provide a counter example.

How about my own... The US Consulate in Kyiv sent out P3 for the fiancee only... no P3 packet for the K-2 child...

Your experience is with China.. so all we have is 1 that does and 1 that doesn't. Even anecdotal evidence on this issue appears to be lacking.... just does not appear to be enough datapoints to support your "if not all". Why not do a poll?

Edited July 16, 2007 by fwaguy

[pushbrk 13,884]

I agree that listing the child implies nothing but some, if not all Consulates "infer" that the child or children wish to apply for a visa.

I think your last sentence should be modified as follows...

Well, the sentance wouldn't make sense then but, I disagree anyway. Some if not all consulates do infer that children will accompany their K visa parent and act accordingly until informed otherwise.

If you disagree, please provide a counter example.

How about my own... The US Consulate in Kyiv sent out P3 for the fiancee only... no P3 packet for the K-2 child...

Your experience is with China.. so all we have is 1 that does and 1 that doesn't. Even anecdotal evidence on this issue appears to be lacking.... just does not appear to be enough datapoints to support your "if not all". Why not do a poll?

Have at it.

[payxibka 10,048]

I agree that listing the child implies nothing but some, if not all Consulates "infer" that the child or children wish to apply for a visa.

I think your last sentence should be modified as follows...

Well, the sentance wouldn't make sense then but, I disagree anyway. Some if not all consulates do infer that children will accompany their K visa parent and act accordingly until informed otherwise.

If you disagree, please provide a counter example.

How about my own... The US Consulate in Kyiv sent out P3 for the fiancee only... no P3 packet for the K-2 child...

Your experience is with China.. so all we have is 1 that does and 1 that doesn't. Even anecdotal evidence on this issue appears to be lacking.... just does not appear to be enough datapoints to support your "if not all". Why not do a poll?

Have at it.

Why me? Why do you deflect when your opinions are challenged?