Randone questions (split and merged)

[Rocio0010 5,572]

4 hours ago, Pinkrlion said:

The policy states that you cannot apply or be approved for n400 until you have completed ROC.

Not accurate. You can definitely apply for N400 while ROC is pending. Can you please link the policy?

[Guido51 9]

8 hours ago, Pinkrlion said:

First of ALL, there is no such thing as a combo interview.  The policy states that you cannot apply or be approved for n400 until you have completed ROC.  This ploy to push for quicker adjudication on the I-751 does not apply in your case.  Until your divorce waiver has been finalized, your N400 will be denied.  They will not combine the interviews, as you tried to file under the 3 year married rule.  You have wasted your money twice.  You will have to wait until Divorce waiver if finalized.  

I'm confused by all the statements you made. Not sure how you sounded so sure about these. But please clarify if you can.

I did not file my SECOND n400 under 3 year married rule. I filed it under 5 year rule. My first n400(filed under 3 year rule) got denied then i filed it again under 5 year rule when I became eligible again. 

So as of today, I have second N400 pending with 5 year rule. AND a second i751 WITH divorce waiver.

How did I waste my money twice? Why is my second n400 or I751 getting denied?

I know it is true that until I751 (with OR without divorce waiver) gets approved first, n400 cannot be approved but they do it in order when you have combo interview. 

 

Does anybody else agree that my n400 will be denied because I have a divorce waiver I751 that is pending?

Edited April 25, 2022 by Guido51

[Guido51 9]

3 hours ago, Rocio0010 said:

Not accurate. You can definitely apply for N400 while ROC is pending. Can you please link the policy?

That's also what I thought.

I filed I751 Divorce waiver(June 2020) after I got divorce and then I filed n400 under 5 year rule 6 months later.(January 2021)

Do you also think my n400 will get denied? or I'll have issues? 

I thought many people are in this situation

[Rocio0010 5,572]

30 minutes ago, Guido51 said:

My first n400(filed under 3 year rule) got denied

Ok, so either I’m not understanding something or there is a language issue. This is exactly what I was talking about yesterday when I asked you to spill the beans and tell your whole immigration history. Here we go:

 

Why did the first N400 get denied? That is the key question. I bet you $100 that it is the same reason why they’re sitting on your case this time. 
That is a key question, together with 👇

 

31 minutes ago, Guido51 said:

AND a second i751

Why a second one?

[Rocio0010 5,572]

14 minutes ago, Guido51 said:

Do you also think my n400 will get denied? or I'll have issues? 

I am not going to answer that question until I read your whole immigration story, together with the reasons for previous denials.

 

[Guido51 9]

10 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

Ok, so either I’m not understanding something or there is a language issue. This is exactly what I was talking about yesterday when I asked you to spill the beans and tell your whole immigration history. Here we go:

 

Why did the first N400 get denied? That is the key question. I bet you $100 that it is the same reason why they’re sitting on your case this time. 
That is a key question, together with 👇

 

Why a second one?

i hope this will make it clear. If this makes sense, i will make it in one post and only ask questions there.

 

1 - Married US citizen spouse in 2016 and got conditional green card. (it was a real marriage)

2 - filed I751(FIRST) to remove conditions in 2018.

3 - Marriage falled apart and started counseling etc.During this time, while i751 was pending, applied n400 under 3 year rule while married and living together. (We were living together and working on marriage)

4 - I had to go to n400 interview alone since spouse went to her parents house and I said the truth during interview and officer said I need to submit divorce decree in 90days or everything will be denied.

5 - Filed divorce but during covid things took long and USCIS denied my i751. And also denied n400.

6 - Divorce became final and i recieved denial letter for both i751 and n400. then I filed second I751 WITH DIVORCE WAIVER by myself in JUNE 2020.

7 - Became eligible to file n400 under 5 year rule and filed n400 in JANUARY 20210

 

Now my second n400 and i751(divorce waiver) both pending.

Makes sense? i hope I was able to explain and sorry for misunderstandings.

hoping I can get answer

[mindthegap 2,543]

2 hours ago, Guido51 said:

hoping I can get answer

You’ve had it. You just aren’t listening . 
There is, for the most part, nothing you can do. 
 

My own n-400 (5yr rule) was scheduled for interview last year, and the interview letter was issued & dated a week AFTER my second I-751 was denied. That’s simply ridiculous incompetence. 
Then, at the n-400 interview they had no knowledge of, or care about, the I-751. It should have been a combo interview, but for some reason, some muppet denied the I-751 without referencing the prior filing which contained the evidence, without interview or RFE, breachIng multiple well established USCIS adjudication procedures. 
 They simply didn’t want to help, and they didn’t help. 
 

Another example: I replied to an RFIE for my latest I-751 today…. enclosing the documents that they requested - in this case divorce decree and divorce filings - the very same documents that were in the very filing a year ago, in a very specific folder with a big label on the front stating ‘divorce paperwork’ in big capital letters. They also have four prior copies of that exact paperwork in my A#. 

How do you argue with that sort of utter stupidity?

How do you reason with it?

You can’t. 
 

You are looking for logic where there is NONE.   
 

The uncomfortable truth is that you are simply a barcode to them. They don’t know, and don’t care about you, or how long it takes. The whole organization is about as sociopathic and unempathetic as it gets, and you are on the sharp end of it, and at some point went to the back of an even harder line, because you received a denial in the past. 
 

Stop driving yourself mad, and get on with your life, thinking about it as little as possible. It happens when it happens, and there is nothing you can do to speed that up. 

Edited April 26, 2022 by mindthegap

[Guido51 9]

12 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

You’ve had it. You just aren’t listening . 
There is, for the most part, nothing you can do. 
 

My own n-400 (5yr rule) was scheduled for interview last year, and the interview letter was issued & dated a week AFTER my second I-751 was denied. That’s simply ridiculous incompetence. 
Then, at the n-400 interview they had no knowledge of, or care about, the I-751. It should have been a combo interview, but for some reason, some muppet denied the I-751 without referencing the prior filing which contained the evidence, without interview or RFE, breachIng multiple well established USCIS adjudication procedures. 
 They simply didn’t want to help, and they didn’t help. 
 

Another example: I replied to an RFIE for my latest I-751 today…. enclosing the documents that they requested - in this case divorce decree and divorce filings - the very same documents that were in the very filing a year ago, in a very specific folder with a big label on the front stating ‘divorce paperwork’ in big capital letters. They also have four prior copies of that exact paperwork in my A#. 

How do you argue with that sort of utter stupidity?

How do you reason with it?

You can’t. 
 

You are looking for logic where there is NONE.   
 

The uncomfortable truth is that you are simply a barcode to them. They don’t know, and don’t care about you, or how long it takes. The whole organization is about as sociopathic and unempathetic as it gets, and you are on the sharp end of it, and at some point went to the back of an even harder line, because you received a denial in the past. 
 

Stop driving yourself mad, and get on with your life, thinking about it as little as possible. It happens when it happens, and there is nothing you can do to speed that up. 

Thank you and i'm facing this hard truth and I'll do my best to leave this behind but I was just told by another person that my n400 will be denied because my i751 is divorce waiver and it is pending. Is that true?

This is what another user said and I was hoping this is not true.

 

11 hours ago, Pinkrlion said:

First of ALL, there is no such thing as a combo interview.  The policy states that you cannot apply or be approved for n400 until you have completed ROC.  This ploy to push for quicker adjudication on the I-751 does not apply in your case.  Until your divorce waiver has been finalized, your N400 will be denied.  They will not combine the interviews, as you tried to file under the 3 year married rule.  You have wasted your money twice.  You will have to wait until Divorce waiver if finalized.  

 

[mindthegap 2,543]

17 minutes ago, Guido51 said:

 Is that true?

No.

 

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[Rocio0010 5,572]

10 hours ago, Guido51 said:

Do you also think my n400 will get denied? or I'll have issues

Not necessarily. I mean, your immigration history is a little complicated, but it might still be doable. 
Some questions can seem intimidating and I’m not saying that you have to answer them publicly. But the answers might give you an idea of why they’re sitting on your case. 
- What’s your country of birth?

- What visa were you on when you got married?

-What’s the time lapse between your arrival into the US and your marriage?

- Any previous visa applications?

- Any red flags in your relationship? (Huge age gap, not speaking the same language , etc)

 

You said you filed a FOIA. I’d wait on it, and then maybe if you don’t have an answer a year from now you can think of suing them.