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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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We had our k-1 visa interview in Vietnam back in February and was refused under 221g request for further evidence and was instructed to provide additional documents such as

  • Proof of who paid for plane Tickets
  • Evidence of relationship
  • Family tree docs
  • Letter from the petitioner about how we met.
  • and other documents

 

One important thing that the consulate didn't take the first interview was supporting evidence to go with form I-134 affidavit of support like my Tax returns, stocks and bonds that was required to attach as instructed on the affidavit, and my retirement that was also required to provide if stated on the affidavit.  

 

For our Follow-up interview today my Fiancée went in, gave all the required documents for out 221g and the missing documents for the affidavit of support to the officer. They called her back and gave all the documents back except for the family tree documents after only 10 mins. This was 700 pages of stuff with proof of evidence being about  2/3rds of it. (Amazing speed reader apparently ) They told us to wait as they need time to make a decision. Also, they refused to take the supporting information for the affidavit of support again with my fiancée this time insisting that they take it as it is part of the affidavit.

 

I want to ask if this is this normal? Why do they need time to make a decision when they literally kept nothing. We can tell that the officer went through the documents in a rush as they are bent and crinkled in the corners. If they went through the documents why did they not make a decision now? I honestly feel like This is ridiculous and no officer is taking our case seriously.  

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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did you mean 70 pages or 700? If it was literally 700 pieces of informtaion that might be a good indication of the reason for delay. 700 pages of documents is astounding and to be a little frank, overkill. The consulate officers are looking for consice information that is clearly spelled out for them. Imagine if everyone brought in 700 or even 500 pages of documents when the officers is looking for specific information. It would be an insurmountable task for them to undertake. Think of it like this, you have to spell out what they are looking for in easily digestable formats. If they are asking for a letter from the petitioner about how you met, make it into bullet points of the most important information that would generally fit on one page. If they want who paid for the tickets a reciept or screen shot of a credit card statement, paypal transaction, wester union transfer etc. Family tree documents can be bullet pointed in the same way as the petitioner letter. The point is you should resist the urge to show all of everything that you have available to prove your evidence. Most of it should be quite self explanatory. 

 

As for the other part of your post the Tax returns, stocks, bonds, financial information etc. and the affidavit of support I too sent 3 years worth of tax transcripts, bank statements for a year (the summary page), savings information, yadda yadda. The consulate officer didn't even look at them or take them or make copies. While the petitioner is required to have and be able to prove they make 125% above poverty level all of that information will generally be "proven" when you go to adjust the status. That's where it really counts. If the consulate officer looked over the financial information and didn't take any of it then they didn't want it. They are the ultimate arbiters of our fates (unfortunately). Perhaps they looked and were satisfied with what they saw. 

 

Lastly to address the overall "time to make a decision" part of your post.  My fiance and I went through the same thing at the London Embassy. The long wait. We could do nothing but check the CEAC daily (sometimes several times a day). Ours finally changed to Refused, then Ready. We were horror struck and downtrodden until a quick google search showed that this meant his visa was going to the IV unit and within a few days it changed to Adminstrative Processing then Issued. Our total wait from the last piece of 221g information being submitted to Issued in CEAC was about a week. Keep in mind though this was after a December interview where he had to get a new police certificate (that took about a month) and a new medical (another month), then some follow up paper work to the visa medical group before they would send his medical to the embassy. All said from the interview to issue that was about 2.5 months. YMMV.

 

A 221g is far from an outright denial. It means they are constantly looking at your case so they can wrap it up one way or the other. A search on this site will show you that often times the 221g is the means to an end for a very long and anxious wait and an Issue notice from the Embassy. I wish you the best of luck,  I can tell you in my case, it was so SO worth the sadness, uncertainty, tears and all the waiting. Cheers

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Moved from Process & Procedures to Progress Reports.


Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

 

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