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Did I read this correctly?

 

Dual citizens now need to obtain a Phil passport in addition to a US passport in order to visit the Philippines?

 

http://newyorkpcg.org/pcgny/2020/10/23/advisory-no-30-dual-citizens-who-are-visiting-the-philippines-required-to-present-philippine-passports-before-exiting-the-philippines/

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If a Filipino reacquired their Philippine Citizenship after being naturalized by the US, they would receive a certificate stating that from the Philippine Consulate or Embassy and they would be required to present that along with their US passport when entering the Philippines.  Most would however apply for a Philippine Passport at the  time they reacquired their Philippine citizenship but I guess there is no requirement they do so.   A Philippine Citizen, must enter the Philippines as such, irrespective of any other citizenship they may hold.  Likewise when duel citizens enter the US they are required by US Immigration to claim their US Citizenship.

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15 minutes ago, top_secret said:

If a Filipino reacquired their Philippine Citizenship after being naturalized by the US, they would receive a certificate stating that from the Philippine Consulate or Embassy and they would be required to present that along with their US passport when entering the Philippines.  Most would however apply for a Philippine Passport at the  time they reacquired their Philippine citizenship but I guess there is no requirement they do so.   A Philippine Citizen, must enter the Philippines as such, irrespective of any other citizenship they may hold.  Likewise when duel citizens enter the US they are required by US Immigration to claim their US Citizenship.

We traveled to the Philippines in 2018 after she had already obtained dual citizenship in 2017.  She did not see a need for a Philippines passport then, and we were fine traveling with US passports only without any documentation of dual citizenship. I am wondering if this has changed - it would be good to know prior to any future travel.

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I imagine if she only presented a US passport, immigration would probably just stamp it just like any other US Passport but I think technically she supposed to enter as a Philippine citizen and it would usually be adventitious to do so.  Why go to the trouble of reacquiring Philippine Citizenship if she doesn't want to use it in the Philippines?

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  • October 05, 2021: Interview at US Embassy Manila. Verbally approved by US Consul. Positive interview experience.
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  • October 07, 2021: Passports tracking for delivery on 2GO Courier website
  • October 08, 2021: Passports with visas delivered.  "Visas on hand"
  • October 08, 2021: Paid Immigrant Fee
  • October 12, 2021: Temporary CFO Certificates Received
  • October 26, 2021 POE arrival at LAX
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  • January 31, 2022: USCIS Status changed to "Card Is Being Produced"
  • February 04, 2022: USCIS Status changed to "Card Was Mailed To Me"
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Posted (edited)
47 minutes ago, top_secret said:

I imagine if she only presented a US passport, immigration would probably just stamp it just like any other US Passport but I think technically she supposed to enter as a Philippine citizen and it would usually be adventitious to do so.  Why go to the trouble of reacquiring Philippine Citizenship if she doesn't want to use it in the Philippines?

 

The answer back then was not “why” but “why not?”  There are advantages of keeping a Philippines citizenship that might pay off in the future - namely if she wanted to buy property there, or if we wanted to move there after retirement, etc.  

 

But if the government there starts imposing restrictions such as the PhilHealth requirements and Philippines passport for visiting, that perception may change for us.  At least the tax treaty is still in place (which avoids double taxation).

 

Regardless, we just didn’t see any need for a Philippines passport at the time since we could travel and visit with a US Passport just fine then, and legally.

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At the moment, having a Philippine passport is about the only easy way anyone is getting in, under ordinary circumstances I don't see where there is or has ever been a requirement that duel citizens has to have a Philippine Passport. 

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  • December 17, 2020:  Married in Costa Rica
  • March 08, 2021: Filed l-130s Online
  • March 09, 2021: NOA1
  • April 26, 2021: NOA2, I-130s Approved
  • April 30, 2021: NVC Received
  • May 01, 2021: Pay AOS and IV Bills
  • May 06, 2021: Submit AOS, Financial Docs and DS-260s
  • May 14, 2021: Submit Civil Docs for Stepdaughter
  • May 21, 2021: Submit Civil Docs for Wife
  • June 25, 2021: NVC review for Stepdaughter, RFE submit additional Doc
  • July 08, 2021: Wife Documentarily Qualified by NVC
  • August 31, 2021: Stepdaughter Documentarily Qualified by NVC
  • September 15, 2021: Received Interview Date from NVC, October 05, 2021
  • September 22, 2021: Passed physicals at Saint Luke's Extension Clinic
  • October 05, 2021: Interview at US Embassy Manila. Verbally approved by US Consul. Positive interview experience.
  • October 05, 2021: CEAC status changed to "Issued"
  • October 07, 2021: Passports tracking for delivery on 2GO Courier website
  • October 08, 2021: Passports with visas delivered.  "Visas on hand"
  • October 08, 2021: Paid Immigrant Fee
  • October 12, 2021: Temporary CFO Certificates Received
  • October 26, 2021 POE arrival at LAX
  • November 02, 2021 Social Security Cards arrive in mail
  • January 31, 2022: USCIS Status changed to "Card Is Being Produced"
  • February 04, 2022: USCIS Status changed to "Card Was Mailed To Me"
  • February 07, 2022: Green cards received. 

 

Posted
13 minutes ago, top_secret said:

At the moment, having a Philippine passport is about the only easy way anyone is getting in, under ordinary circumstances I don't see where there is or has ever been a requirement that duel citizens has to have a Philippine Passport. 

Yeah maybe it’s just a temporary thing due to the COVID-19 restrictions.

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Bugs said:

Did I read this correctly?

 

Dual citizens now need to obtain a Phil passport in addition to a US passport in order to visit the Philippines?

 

http://newyorkpcg.org/pcgny/2020/10/23/advisory-no-30-dual-citizens-who-are-visiting-the-philippines-required-to-present-philippine-passports-before-exiting-the-philippines/

 

Actually it states to EXIT  ;)      

 

ADVISORY No. 30

22 October 2020

 
 

DUAL CITIZENS WHO ARE VISITING THE PHILIPPINES REQUIRED TO PRESENT PHILIPPINE PASSPORTS BEFORE EXITING THE PHILIPPINES

The Philippine Consulate General in New York (PCGNY) wishes to inform our kababayans – who are dual citizens – that the Bureau of Immigration requires the presentation of Philippine Passports before exiting the Philippines.

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Bugs said:

We traveled to the Philippines in 2018 after she had already obtained dual citizenship in 2017.  She did not see a need for a Philippines passport then, and we were fine traveling with US passports only without any documentation of dual citizenship. I am wondering if this has changed - it would be good to know prior to any future travel.

The advisory is dated 2020

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Posted
2 hours ago, Hank_ said:

 

Actually it states to EXIT  ;)      

 

ADVISORY No. 30

22 October 2020

 
 

DUAL CITIZENS WHO ARE VISITING THE PHILIPPINES REQUIRED TO PRESENT PHILIPPINE PASSPORTS BEFORE EXITING THE PHILIPPINES

The Philippine Consulate General in New York (PCGNY) wishes to inform our kababayans – who are dual citizens – that the Bureau of Immigration requires the presentation of Philippine Passports before exiting the Philippines.

 

 

 

 

The advisory is dated 2020

 And so, unless one is planning on moving to the Philippines during their visit and never returning home, then he/she will need one for his/her visit if he/she plans on boarding the return flight.  At least according to this advisory.

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Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, Skyman said:

I wouldn't worry about it unless you are actually coming and by then the rules will be different.

Agreed.  But this and the new PhilHealth requirement will still be worth keeping an eye on once regular travel resumes, to gauge enforcement efforts, if any.

Edited by Bugs

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