I-129F cover letter, copies of unaltered documents, what about text messages which have to organized or call logs as well?

[Lookingglass 1]

Hi all,

 

So I am putting the finishing touches on my packet, only thing I am having a bit of difficulty thinking through is the last part on the I-129F cover letter... so I used the last part of the sample through this site, namely, 

 

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Copies of documents submitted are exact photocopies of unaltered documents and I understand that I may be required to submit original documents to an Immigration or Consular officer at a later date

Everything is original copies except the text message papers and call logs, primary to condense the amount of papers that this would produce. My Fiancee and I, our primary means of communication was through Facebook messenger. The good thing about this is there is a lot of ways available to show our ongoing interaction; email notifications, html message data, the message themselves... etc... but you have to make some of this presentable so as not to create 200 pages, as no one is going to look through that. So with our call logs, facebook html doesnt give you the capacity to only show the calls made or sent, it will only highlight it based on what you search for, so in order to present our call history, we had to cut and paste it together, amounting in like 12 pages. But by definition this is not the original state of this particular document, but only edited to make it easier for those who will be reviewing this case. 

 

So I guess my question is, should I leave that last part out of the cover letter, or just use this line,

 

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I understand that I may be required to submit original documents to an Immigration or Consular officer at a later date

 

I'm thinking this above quote would be fine.

 

because I can produce the html file from facebook data, but if i used the unedited version it would be really dumb, it be hundreds of papers. 

[payxibka 10,045]

I would leave out any chats, messages and call logs in their entirety from the petition 

Edited April 18, 2019 by payxibka

[Lookingglass 1]

5 minutes ago, payxibka said:

I would leave out any chats, messages and call logs in their entirety from the petition 

why is that? How else can one prove ongoing relationship without this? Wouldnt it at least help to show this?

[Celie 793]

1 minute ago, Lookingglass said:

why is that? How else can one prove ongoing relationship without this? Wouldnt it at least help to show this?

You're not required to show proof of relationship at petition stage. Your goal right now should be to prove you've met in person in the last 2 years.  Save your chat documents for your embassy interview.

[payxibka 10,045]

Just now, Lookingglass said:

why is that? How else can one prove ongoing relationship without this? Wouldnt it at least help to show this?

Because one does not need to prove it.  Proof of ongoing relationship is not requirement for petition approval.   Ongoing relationship is proven at the interview 

[Lookingglass 1]

5 minutes ago, celie&joseph said:

You're not required to show proof of relationship at petition stage. Your goal right now should be to prove you've met in person in the last 2 years.  Save your chat documents for your embassy interview.

Hmmm okay. So everything I have arranged in regards to ongoing relationship, is useless for this part of the process, only that which shows proof of having met in person within the last 2 years? Okay, I'll you all, since you've been here before. But this means all of that paper work is for my fiancee then at her interview. well could i leave in some text messages that show us talking while im boarding a flight, since it has the date in the messages? I have many of my boarding passes, as I tend to keep things for memories, it's a bad habit, but good in this case, I even have receipts from restaurants and movie cinemas. 

 

42 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Because one does not need to prove it.  Proof of ongoing relationship is not requirement for petition approval.   Ongoing relationship is proven at the interview 

okay, well I guess I will take that stuff out of this packet. 

[Lookingglass 1]

my fiancee said I should include it, so that the embassy will already have a history of it. 

[payxibka 10,045]

Just now, Lookingglass said:

my fiancee said I should include it, so that the embassy will already have a history of it. 

Your Embassy is Japan, not a high fraud embassy.

[Lookingglass 1]

1 minute ago, payxibka said:

Your Embassy is Japan, not a high fraud embassy.

Yeah but my fiancee is originally from the Philippines, she's been living in japan for 5 years on a special visa, she's partially Japanese due to her grandmother, this allows her to have a special visa to live there and work there, but not yet a permanent resident. But I'm assuming this shouldn't matter, since she's been in japan for so long.  

[payxibka 10,045]

Just now, Lookingglass said:

Yeah but my fiancee is originally from the Philippines, she's been living in japan for 5 years on a special visa, she's partially Japanese due to her grandmother, this allows her to have a special visa to live there and work there, but not yet a permanent resident. But I'm assuming this shouldn't matter, since she's been in japan for so long.  

Much ado about nothing.  The concept of "ongoing" relationship is not that it is ongoing at the time of filing, but is ongoing at the time of the interview 9 months to a year from now

[Lookingglass 1]

2 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Much ado about nothing.  The concept of "ongoing" relationship is not that it is ongoing at the time of filing, but is ongoing at the time of the interview 9 months to a year from now

oh, I see. 

[Celie 793]

1 minute ago, Lookingglass said:

Yeah but my fiancee is originally from the Philippines, she's been living in japan for 5 years on a special visa, she's partially Japanese due to her grandmother, this allows her to have a special visa to live there and work there, but not yet a permanent resident. But I'm assuming this shouldn't matter, since she's been in japan for so long.  

Even if you include it, there is no guarantee the interview officer will review it and it will cause extra trouble for the adjudicating officer at USCIS to sort through your file to get the evidence they need to make an approval. IF y'all had red flags such as large age gap or coming onto a high fraud embassy I would consider suggesting the front load, but her Japan/Philippine residency situation has no impact on your proof of relationship.

 

21 minutes ago, Lookingglass said:

Hmmm okay. So everything I have arranged in regards to ongoing relationship, is useless for this part of the process, only that which shows proof of having met in person within the last 2 years? Okay, I'll you all, since you've been here before. But this means all of that paper work is for my fiancee then at her interview. well could i leave in some text messages that show us talking while im boarding a flight, since it has the date in the messages? I have many of my boarding passes, as I tend to keep things for memories, it's a bad habit, but good in this case, I even have receipts from restaurants and movie cinemas.

Yes you can include a few of those.

[Lookingglass 1]

11 minutes ago, celie&joseph said:

Even if you include it, there is no guarantee the interview officer will review it and it will cause extra trouble for the adjudicating officer at USCIS to sort through your file to get the evidence they need to make an approval. IF y'all had red flags such as large age gap or coming onto a high fraud embassy I would consider suggesting the front load, but her Japan/Philippine residency situation has no impact on your proof of relationship.

 

Yes you can include a few of those.

Ah okay. Got it. Will aim for only the evidence that is needed. She is 30 and I am 36 so we're good as far as age is concerned.