N600 oath ceremony

[DianaLion 2]

some of these forms are from a while back so i figure share my journey  (Fresno,CA)

Timeline

Sept 15, 2017 Turn all documents into my lawyer for her to send in 

October 24, 2017, NOA at the NBC( only took so long because lawyer didn't send in my case till October 1st)

November 14, 2017 case received at my local office

April 27, 2018 You have been placed in line to be scheduled for an oath ceremony 

have not heard anything since will keep updating 

MORE INFO

I was born in mexico to one us citizen parent (dad)

parents not married at the time of my birth

dad is deceased

Entered the us legally with a  boarder crossing card

never left after that have been here since age three

parents where separated

dad death certificate said he was divorced because him an my moms marriage was never legal because of fam drama (THIS DID NOT AFFECT MY CASE) in case something similar happened to you 

Documents sent

my birth certificate and translation

my boarder crossing card

parents marriage certificate

dads death certificate

dads birth certificate 

proof he lived in the U.S for five years prior to my birth (i sent my dads school( college) records but they accept w2 and all that good stuff) 

(my dad was way older than my mom he died when i was 19 he was 69 so his w2 forms where hard for me to collect) 

i think thats basically it not sure if i had to send my consular id card

if anyone knows how long till the ceremony is scheduled info is appreciated 

 

[williamAR 17]

are you a us bitizen at birth, if so why are they placing you in an oath ceremony? and if so why you didn't request a us passport which is easier?

[CarlHamilton 252]

This makes 0 sense.

[Starkilla09 366]

Your post is a little bizarre it seems as though you were a citizen by birth. You did mention your late dad resided in the U.S. for the previous 5 years prior to your birth and he was a U.S. If that be the case then you're also a natural born U.S. citizen. If you're a U.S. citizen by birth you don't get to take any oath, as the oath is for those who go through naturalization. What you should do is get a certificate of citizenship from USCIS (pretty expensive though looking at $1000+). A much cheaper option is to apply for a U.S. passport directly with evidence of your U.S. citizenship through your father.

[DianaLion 2]

7 hours ago, williamAR said:

are you a us bitizen at birth, if so why are they placing you in an oath ceremony? and if so why you didn't request a us passport which is easier?

yes i am considered a citizen at birth..... been trying for years hired many lawyers and non of them told me about the n600 form. That aside yes i have to take an oath ceremony. I know its a little redundant but hey I am not complaining. I know getting a passport is faster, but every time i went to apply the worker there would tell me that no I can not in fact apply for a passport despite showing her where it says i may on a government website (USCIS) I would get to stressed out to pursue the matter farther.... also more than one place told me i could not get a passport. 

Edited May 24, 2018 by DianaLion

[DianaLion 2]

3 hours ago, Starkilla09 said:

Your post is a little bizarre it seems as though you were a citizen by birth. You did mention your late dad resided in the U.S. for the previous 5 years prior to your birth and he was a U.S. If that be the case then you're also a natural born U.S. citizen. If you're a U.S. citizen by birth you don't get to take any oath, as the oath is for those who go through naturalization. What you should do is get a certificate of citizenship from USCIS (pretty expensive though looking at $1000+). A much cheaper option is to apply for a U.S. passport directly with evidence of your U.S. citizenship through your father.

You are correct i am a citizen at birth and that certificate you mention is the one i applied for 1,700$ to be exact. I don't make the rules I do not know why they are making me take an oath but it does require it for people over the age of 14. Not complaining I am glad to finally be done with all of the stress and struggles of not qualifying for anything because I am technically a U.S citizen and not being able to do anything any other U.S citizen can do because I did not have documentation spent thousands on lawyer and non of them ever bothered to actually help instead of just take money........ Every time I tried applying for a passport I was turned down. I was not able to deal with the stress at the time (personal issues) so i gave up but I would hope anyone else to keep trying..... 

7 hours ago, shomer said:

This makes 0 sense.

you are right it makes zero sense but yet its what I had to go though.... I jumped through many hoops to claim what is rightfully mine I know taking an oath ceremony is redundant but I don't make the rules...

Edited May 24, 2018 by DianaLion

[williamAR 17]

ok ok got it yes seems like an ackward situation but yes maybe they are wrong because oath ceremonies are just for naturalized persons it says that in the ina 337 look at the link below:

 

https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-10309.html#0-0-0-7583

 

if everythign you said is true you should receive the certificate by mail .

[williamAR 17]

In fact in the same uscis site it says you can apply for this certificate from outside of the US it says "See 8 CFR 341.1. The Secretary of State has jurisdiction over claims of U.S. citizenship made by persons who are abroad, and the Secretary of Homeland Security has jurisdiction over the administration and enforcement of the INA within the United States. See INA 103(a)(1) and INA 104(a)(3). There is nothing precluding USCIS from accepting a Form N-600 filed under INA 301 or INA 309 by a person who does not live in the United States. See INA 341(a)."

 

they will not make the person to come to the US to make the oath they just give their ceritficate.

[DianaLion 2]

3 minutes ago, williamAR said:

ok ok got it yes seems like an ackward situation but yes maybe they are wrong because oath ceremonies are just for naturalized persons it says that in the ina 337 look at the link below:

 

https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-10309.html#0-0-0-7583

 

if everythign you said is true you should receive the certificate by mail .

Yes I was expecting to receive my certificate by mail. Check and called USCIS website and as it turns out I do in fact need to take an oath ceremony.... Maybe because I am registered as a Mexican citizen after my birth. I am not sure exactly but could be a possibility.... Anyways it is what happened to me could happen to someone else haven't seen similar cases so i thought i should share my journey 

[DianaLion 2]

5 minutes ago, williamAR said:

In fact in the same uscis site it says you can apply for this certificate from outside of the US it says "See 8 CFR 341.1. The Secretary of State has jurisdiction over claims of U.S. citizenship made by persons who are abroad, and the Secretary of Homeland Security has jurisdiction over the administration and enforcement of the INA within the United States. See INA 103(a)(1) and INA 104(a)(3). There is nothing precluding USCIS from accepting a Form N-600 filed under INA 301 or INA 309 by a person who does not live in the United States. See INA 341(a)."

 

they will not make the person to come to the US to make the oath they just give their ceritficate.

I live in the United States have lived here since I was 3 years old came here with a boarder crossing card never left since. my local office is Fresno,CA but that is really great info that someone outside the U.S can use thanks for sharing

[williamAR 17]

ok so is weird I did the same process my dad was a us citizen but I received the certificate by mail

[DianaLion 2]

2 hours ago, williamAR said:

ok so is weird I did the same process my dad was a us citizen but I received the certificate by mail

yeah i was expecting that too but they hit me with this oath ceremony 

 

[williamAR 17]

ok let us know what they will be doing in that oath ceremony.

[DianaLion 2]

Hey guys quick update my oath ceremony is scheduled for Thursday july 12 will let you all know how it goes

[tennnis123 14]

@DianaLion I think my cousin is in the same scenario his mom became a citizen (marriage) when he was 5 years old but he never received anything. He filed the N600 two times but he procrastinated and never finished the processed for one reason or another. Once we find the information to prove that he lived with her when she became a citizen we will try to file for his passport. He is a permanent resident for now. 

 

@DianaLion What kind of information you sent for the passport and which reason they gave you for it to being denied?