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1 minute ago, Unidentified said:

You know you've gone off topic right?

How is it off topic when it is discussing using responses by Trump to personal attacks by the media for invoking Section 4 of the 25th Amendment?

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1 minute ago, JimandChristy said:

LOL not attacking him personally, where have out been for the past eight years? The guy who is in White House right now made his name politically in this country by personally attacking Obama, hello? birth certificate doesn't ring a bell? Trump made his white house bed and now has to lay in it. He has no right to moan about personal attacks after the birth certificate story he pushed for years.

Ah, the birther deflection.  What's next, tax returns?

 

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21 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

All of our most recent presidents have value differences with a great many of the American people.  How does that translate into a mental disorder?  Again, if a president doesn't agree with a political side, there is a process for that.

I wish it just was about political differences and value differences. I am saying that his BEHAVIOR and WORDS translate into mental disorder,
I did not say his policies did. Impulse control issues are not good for the country. Hypersensitive reactions are not good for the country.
I fail to understand how you do not see the difference of a on the floor rolling president video punching the lights out "CNN" and talking about
blood coming out of women, not to mention constant offensive other things about many women and the behavior of previous presidents.


Yes if a president doesn't agree with a political side there is a process for that and that process does not include rolling on the floor throwing
punches and talking about women's blood and grading their appearance, nor thinking that just because you are famous you get away with
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2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Ah, the birther deflection.  What's next, tax returns?

 

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Yes because right wing media can push that nonsense for eight years with impunity and then start to moan on Fox News about how Trump is being unfairly treated by the press. Trump deserves all the criticism he gets because his whole political career was based on an outrageous lie to smear and embarrass the previous president. 

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6 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

I wish it just was about political differences and value differences. I am saying that his BEHAVIOR and WORDS translate into mental disorder,
I did not say his policies did. Impulse control issues are not good for the country. Hypersensitive reactions are not good for the country.
I fail to understand how you do not see the difference of a on the floor rolling president video punching the lights out "CNN" and talking about
blood coming out of women, not to mention constant offensive other things about many women and the behavior of previous presidents.


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We have a man child in the White House.

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2 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

I wish it just was about political differences and value differences. I am saying that his BEHAVIOR and WORDS translate into mental disorder,
I did not say his policies did. Impulse control issues are not good for the country. Hypersensitive reactions are not good for the country.
I fail to understand how you do not see the difference of a on the floor rolling president video punching the lights out "CNN" and talking about
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grabbing women by their p****.

Then draw up the articles of impeachment.  That would definitely be an easier road then section 4 of the 25th Amendment.  Trump is not your normal politician and he does hit back at those that attack him and his family personally.  You have to go back and look at the latest dust up with Mika and Joe to see that it was not Trump that started it.  Heck, he even offered to officiate at their wedding when the engagement was announced, and now they are making personal attacks.  We also know that Mika did in fact have plastic surgery and maybe she was bandaged at the time, I wasn't there, so I have no idea.  If Trump convinces the congress to pass a law or start an amendment to stifle the media then I may worry, until then, I think our free media is safe from government control, but they are experiencing something they are not used to, being publicly called out by someone with an R next to their name.  Only those elected with a D can question them and then only those that are supposedly identified as Right Wing.

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20 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

The difference being that the press Obama was attacking were not attacking him personally, but rather attacking his policies.  The other difference being that there are a lot more of the Left Wing media out there than a supposed Right Wing outlet.

Yes, you see the point ?

Point 3 :  Obama has class and would never in a million years roll on the floor like a pig and attack women about blood coming out of their whatever
so they attacked his policies. Now you are getting the point. Obama gave no one a reason to attack him personally but still he was
attacked for his birth certificate by Trump and Co. Now Trump acts like the oval office is a WWE ring and you are can't understand
the backlash.
 

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4 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Yes because right wing media can push that nonsense for eight years with impunity and then start to moan on Fox News about how Trump is being unfairly treated by the press. Trump deserves all the criticism he gets because his whole political career was based on an outrageous lie to smear and embarrass the previous president. 

Considering that being a natural born citizen of the US is a constitutional requirement for being president, it was a valid question that Obama could have ended very quickly.  However, this was not actually a personal attack.

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2 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

Yes, you see the point ?

Point 3 :  Obama has class and would never in a million years roll on the floor like a pig and attack women about blood coming out of their whatever
so they attacked his policies. Now you are getting the point. Obama gave no one a reason to attack him personally.
 

There is no reason for the press to attack Trump personally other than to maintain an agenda driven narrative.  How much class did Obama show when attacking Fox due to policy criticisms?  He didn't have to defend himself from mainstream media personal attacks, so I cannot say if he has class in that respect.  The far Right media that may have were marginalized by almost everyone that has any inkling of common sense, and now we are seeing that with the Left Wing media.  The difference being that the Leftist media has been masquerading as objective journalists.

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5 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Then draw up the articles of impeachment.  That would definitely be an easier road then section 4 of the 25th Amendment.  Trump is not your normal politician and he does hit back at those that attack him and his family personally.  You have to go back and look at the latest dust up with Mika and Joe to see that it was not Trump that started it.  Heck, he even offered to officiate at their wedding when the engagement was announced, and now they are making personal attacks.  We also know that Mika did in fact have plastic surgery and maybe she was bandaged at the time, I wasn't there, so I have no idea.  If Trump convinces the congress to pass a law or start an amendment to stifle the media then I may worry, until then, I think our free media is safe from government control, but they are experiencing something they are not used to, being publicly called out by someone with an R next to their name.  Only those elected with a D can question them and then only those that are supposedly identified as Right Wing.

Yes, he is not normal. We know.

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6 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Considering that being a natural born citizen of the US is a constitutional requirement for being president, it was a valid question that Obama could have ended very quickly.  However, this was not actually a personal attack.

LOL not personal, Kenya, Muslim etc etc. 

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That is really not the case, but as I said, whatever the reason, the flattery remains, otherwise the copycat would have been in vain. 

A matter of opinion.

 

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Just now, Bill & Katya said:

A matter of opinion.

 

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Of course. In my opinion, the poster of the original thread should be flattered, but I can speak for him or her.

 

However, it is widely known that imitation is the sincerest form of flatter, a phrase that is attributed to Oscar Wilde, who would have known a thing or two on the subject.

 
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