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DS 160 Relatives - How closely related to be included?

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Hello All!

 

My question is: how closely related to someone does a B2 applicant need to be to include them on their DS-160 application. For example: A student of mine has a distant relative in the US. The relative is the the grandson of the sister of his grandmother.

 

Maybe that's confusing. His grandmother had a sister (both have since passed), and his grandmother's sister now has a grandson. The grandson is now living in the USA as a citizen. They're not close and they don't talk often. Does this person need to be included on the DS-160?

 

Another question, another student. This student has a mother who's been remarried. The husband (step-father of the applicant) has an uncle living in the USA. Does this person also need to be mentioned on the DS-160?

 

All these distant relationships are making my head spin (lol)! Sometimes I think half of Vietnam has one form of distant relative in the USA. For me, I've got no idea who my grandmother's siblings had children with, or where they are, so I'd answer 'No', even though, I'm sure they're out there in the world somewhere.

 

Thanks in advance.

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Not sure why you are getting involved but it asks for immediate relatives.

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RocketElephant   7

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The reason why I'm involved is because we're taking a school trip to the USA for 11 days. I have fourteen students applying for B2 tourist visas, none of which has ever traveled abroad. I'm helping them fill out their DS-160s.

 

It asks for immediate relatives, but immediately after that it asks for other relatives.

 

If you're boiling (sorry for the terrible pun, I can't help myself) for more info, read some of my previous posts: here, here and here.

 

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Because immediately after it asks for immediate relatives it asks for 'other' relatives!

 

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I suppose the confusion is... do I need to include relatives through marriage? How about very distant relatives who wouldn't be able to support the B2 applicant for immigration purposes?

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Because immediately after it asks for immediate relatives it asks for 'other' relatives!

 

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I suppose the confusion is... do I need to include relatives through marriage? How about very distant relatives who wouldn't be able to support the B2 applicant for immigration purposes?

Erm, just look at the picture you posted..it even tells you on the right what an immediate relative is...

 

The other relatives..distant or whatever you put in the 'other'.

 

Its so basic... you sure you are a teacher and not a student....?

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So, you're saying this includes relatives three generations removed and relatives through marriage, not by blood?

 

It's clearly not that basic, since they put a description for 'immediate' and not 'other'. Not to mention that contacting some of these relatives to get their details for the embassy (status, date of birth, place of birth, etc.) for these students is not an easy task, nor done quickly.

 

I guess we'll just  include everyone then(to be on the safe side), but it seems to me your answer is a supposition, not one based on fact.

 

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4 minutes ago, Jojo92122 said:

You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.  

 

Answer "yes" and be done.  At the interview, the student can explain.

 

Isn't the DS-160 going to ask for the relatives info just like for immediate relatives. parents, spouses, and ex-spouses?

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3 hours ago, RocketElephant said:

 How about very distant relatives who wouldn't be able to support the B2 applicant for immigration purposes?

 

There is no support for immigration purposes when it comes to B2s

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

 
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