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Filed: I-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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I'm a permanent resident originally from Egypt. I got married to an Egyptian citizen a few years ago, then, we went through divorce a year or so later ... both events happened in Egypt. (I omitted the exact dates for personal reasons).

In mid 2015 I filed for AOS (as my employment based GC became current) with no souse/dependents (Status: Divorced) and got my GC in August 2015.

I met my current wife (Egyptian) in January 2016, and we got married a few months later, in Egypt.

I filed I-130 application for my wife, and I have included all required documents but - sadly - got an RFE two weeks ago asking for a "PROOF OF LEGAL TERMINATION OF MARRIAGE" and in the explanation it said "The type of divorce decree necessary for the benefit being sought must be irrevocable".

I responded to the RFE with a photocopy of my past marriage divorce decree, and its English translation; Both are certified and officially registered in Egypt.

Today morning, I realized that somewhere in the divorce decree it said that the divorce is "revocable". This is how things are in Egypt, because in Islam, first and second divorce are revocable (i.e, The couple may choose to get married again in the future, but with new marriage contract). It's only after the third divorce that it becomes "irrevocable". They cannot marry each other again until after she has married another husband and got a divorce!

The presence of the word "revocable" is freaking me out! and it might freak the IO out too! Although it's clearly explained in the divorce decree as:

"Mrs. X became the divorcee of Mr. Y, first divorce pronouncement, revocable, and the said divorced wife will not be legally allowed to marry the said husband but without a new marriage contract and new dowry, and according to her consent"

Does anyone have a similar experience?
Is there anyway I could get an "irrevocable" divorce decree in Egypt?

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
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~ Moved from "Bringing Family Members of Permanent Residents to America" to "Middle East and North Africa Regional Forum" as question is country-specific ~

Edited by EM_Vandaveer

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Morocco
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I'm a permanent resident originally from Egypt. I got married to an Egyptian citizen a few years ago, then, we went through divorce a year or so later ... both events happened in Egypt. (I omitted the exact dates for personal reasons).

In mid 2015 I filed for AOS (as my employment based GC became current) with no souse/dependents (Status: Divorced) and got my GC in August 2015.

I met my current wife (Egyptian) in January 2016, and we got married a few months later, in Egypt.

I filed I-130 application for my wife, and I have included all required documents but - sadly - got an RFE two weeks ago asking for a "PROOF OF LEGAL TERMINATION OF MARRIAGE" and in the explanation it said "The type of divorce decree necessary for the benefit being sought must be irrevocable".

I responded to the RFE with a photocopy of my past marriage divorce decree, and its English translation; Both are certified and officially registered in Egypt.

Today morning, I realized that somewhere in the divorce decree it said that the divorce is "revocable". This is how things are in Egypt, because in Islam, first and second divorce are revocable (i.e, The couple may choose to get married again in the future, but with new marriage contract). It's only after the third divorce that it becomes "irrevocable". They cannot marry each other again until after she has married another husband and got a divorce!

The presence of the word "revocable" is freaking me out! and it might freak the IO out too! Although it's clearly explained in the divorce decree as:

"Mrs. X became the divorcee of Mr. Y, first divorce pronouncement, revocable, and the said divorced wife will not be legally allowed to marry the said husband but without a new marriage contract and new dowry, and according to her consent"

Does anyone have a similar experience?

Is there anyway I could get an "irrevocable" divorce decree in Egypt?

Hello there....... boy do I understand your problem.

YES, USCIS wants divorce papers to say IRREVOCABLE... that way marriage is over, and he can not take her back, blah blah blah. and would have to remarry if they wanted to be together.

My ex husband an Egyptian did a Irrevocable divorce with me years ago....... and I was so happy for the Irrevocable.

PM me with questions if you would like....... I know the nightmare your in. There is a long story behind how I know all this with USCIS and the divorce that only says First Revocable Divorce

also, you wife may have to take her divorce papers to Egypt and to court, to have a Judge stamp them off as FINAL....... you may want to speak to a lawyer in Egypt, but be careful, most are crooks. I have a friend here in USA who was a lawyer there , and helped me so much with my fears of USCIS and my Irrevocable divorce from Egypt.

Edited by Beth & Achraf

 

Formally known here as , Paris Heart 

 

Sent: 9/12/16: I-130 + I-485 + I-765 (USPS)

Delivered: 09/15/2016 to Chicago Lock Box

Interview Feb  21, 2018 for I-485

Interview  May 13, 2019 for I-130 Stokes interview ( 5 minutes)

NOID issued 05/17/2019

NOID addressed and received by USCIS 06/05/2019   Addressed the NOID myself, No lawyer ever used in case.

07/01/2019  10 YEAR GREEN CARD APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

07/05/2019   Approval letters for I-130 & I-485 received in the USPS  mail.

07/11/2019   Green Card in Hand

     happy tom and jerry GIF

 

1019 days from receipt to approval, no lawyer involved.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Morocco
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~ Moved from "Bringing Family Members of Permanent Residents to America" to "Middle East and North Africa Regional Forum" as question is country-specific ~

also THE problem with Revocable is, a man can take his wife back with like 90 days, and no one is the wiser...... USCIS would not know the truth since it happens in Egypt,

A Irrevocable divorce there is like our USA Decree of Divorce...... that means its final, done, finished, over....... blah blah blah..


 

Formally known here as , Paris Heart 

 

Sent: 9/12/16: I-130 + I-485 + I-765 (USPS)

Delivered: 09/15/2016 to Chicago Lock Box

Interview Feb  21, 2018 for I-485

Interview  May 13, 2019 for I-130 Stokes interview ( 5 minutes)

NOID issued 05/17/2019

NOID addressed and received by USCIS 06/05/2019   Addressed the NOID myself, No lawyer ever used in case.

07/01/2019  10 YEAR GREEN CARD APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

07/05/2019   Approval letters for I-130 & I-485 received in the USPS  mail.

07/11/2019   Green Card in Hand

     happy tom and jerry GIF

 

1019 days from receipt to approval, no lawyer involved.

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