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Tourist Visa denied, how and when to reapply?

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sourabhasawa   0

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I recently appeared for a tourist visa interview and it was denied. I was going for promotion of my business and hold some business meetings. I have an outsourcing company here with 50 employees so i had to anyhow return to take charge of business after getting more clients.

My US based relatives suggested that applying tourist visa would be easier. I applied for tourist visa with my wife, but the visa was denied. Below was the conversation:

VO: Why do you want to go?

Ans: I want to visit places in US with my sister who lives there.

VO: Where will you stay?

Ans: At my sisters place.

VO: How long has she been there and what is she doing?

Ans: Shes is working with XXX and she is a permanent resident.

VO: What do you do?

Ans: I have outsourcing business.

VO: Whats turnover?

Ans: XXX lacs for last financial year. (the amount was big enough as I have 50 employees)

VO: (to my wife) What do you do?

Ans: I take guest lectures at a university

VO: Do you have any kids?

ANS: Yes 3.5 years and shes is not going along

VO: Sorry I cant approve your visa this time.

She dropped our passports with 214 B letter.

She refused to look at any documents that i had with me. Now what shall i do to reapply? How long shall i wait before reapplying? This time shall I apply straight for business visa? without my wife and daughter? I am going nuts.. please help…


KierenHby Experienced

KierenHby   900

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You can't promote a business or have meetings on a tourist visa.

Never go by what's an 'easier' visa to obtain; rather, go by what's the right visa for your purpose. Your US based relatives ill-advised you.

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EM_Vandaveer Experienced

EM_Vandaveer   2,422

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B1/B2 IS the appropriate visa. It's for temporary visits, business or pleasure. Unless your circumstances have changed, you'll most likely be denied again. Lying about the purpose of your visit was unwise, too.

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KierenHby Experienced

KierenHby   900

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B1/B2 IS the appropriate visa. It's for temporary visits, business or pleasure. Unless your circumstances have changed, you'll most likely be denied again. Lying about the purpose of your visit was unwise, too.

That's not what the VO noted. My point is OP went for the 'easier' choice, inappropriately so.

USCIS

January 16, 2015 I-130 Mailed, Chi lockbox January 20, 2015 Priority Date, January 21, 2015 NOA1 notice date, Assigned VSC, January 23, 2015 Check Cashed, electronically March 5, 2015 NOA2

NVC

March 27, 2015 NVC received April 6, 2015 Case#, IIN# assigned April 8, 2015 Paid AOS + IV fee Invoices May 5, 2015 AOS + IV package submitted May 11, 2015 Scan Date

June 11, 2015 DS-260 submitted June 25, 2015 False checklist (for ds260).. hello? June 30, 2015 Answered checklist Aug 5, 2015 Escalated to Supervisor review Aug 13, 2015 Case Complete

Consular

Sept 10, 2015 Interview Scheduled Sept 11, 2015 P4 Letter received Sept 21, 2015 file In transit from NVC Sept 23, 2015 file at Embassy

Sept 28, 2015 Medical Oct 14, 2015 Biometrics Oct 15, 2015 Interview (Approved) Oct 19, 2015 IV visa Issued Oct 23, 2015 Passport Pickup

POE

Nov 2, 2015 Entered the US Nov 16, 2015 Applied for SSN, walk-in Nov 20, 2015 Social Security Card recd Jan 15, 2016 GC received

KierenHby Experienced

KierenHby   900

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.. Not with my wife. Will this be considered as a change in circumstance?

No..

is the simple answer. The change must be material, or in other words, significant.

Applying soon, as well as the change in purpose could make you appear desperate.

USCIS

January 16, 2015 I-130 Mailed, Chi lockbox January 20, 2015 Priority Date, January 21, 2015 NOA1 notice date, Assigned VSC, January 23, 2015 Check Cashed, electronically March 5, 2015 NOA2

NVC

March 27, 2015 NVC received April 6, 2015 Case#, IIN# assigned April 8, 2015 Paid AOS + IV fee Invoices May 5, 2015 AOS + IV package submitted May 11, 2015 Scan Date

June 11, 2015 DS-260 submitted June 25, 2015 False checklist (for ds260).. hello? June 30, 2015 Answered checklist Aug 5, 2015 Escalated to Supervisor review Aug 13, 2015 Case Complete

Consular

Sept 10, 2015 Interview Scheduled Sept 11, 2015 P4 Letter received Sept 21, 2015 file In transit from NVC Sept 23, 2015 file at Embassy

Sept 28, 2015 Medical Oct 14, 2015 Biometrics Oct 15, 2015 Interview (Approved) Oct 19, 2015 IV visa Issued Oct 23, 2015 Passport Pickup

POE

Nov 2, 2015 Entered the US Nov 16, 2015 Applied for SSN, walk-in Nov 20, 2015 Social Security Card recd Jan 15, 2016 GC received

az2014 Community Regular

az2014   381

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So you basically lied about the purpose of the visit because you thought it would be easier to get the visa, and now want to change your story to the truth.

You think this suddenly makes you trustworthy?

The CO could see straight through your story and rightly denied you. Hopefully will deny you again if you reapply.

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sourabhasawa Newbie

sourabhasawa   0

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I was ill advised by my relatives. I first thought of business visa but they advised to seek tourist visa as I no meetings were already fixed. My clients are all from startup community. I had planned to participate in meetups and to network to get more clients. But since nothing was concrete, I was suggested for tourist visa and counted on them. But seems I will have to wait for at least 6 months to 1 year now.

ManCharsey Collaborator

ManCharsey   254

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Interesting thing is B1 visas have a higher approval rate than tourist visas though you end up getting both B1/B2 regardless of which route you take. You most likely should have applied for the B1 which was the real reason you wanted to come over to the US.

Good luck on your next try.

You talk you teach, you listen you learn

KierenHby Experienced

KierenHby   900

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... You most likely should have applied for the B1 which was the real reason you wanted to come over to the US.

OP applied because, in his words '..tourist visa would be easier..'.

USCIS

January 16, 2015 I-130 Mailed, Chi lockbox January 20, 2015 Priority Date, January 21, 2015 NOA1 notice date, Assigned VSC, January 23, 2015 Check Cashed, electronically March 5, 2015 NOA2

NVC

March 27, 2015 NVC received April 6, 2015 Case#, IIN# assigned April 8, 2015 Paid AOS + IV fee Invoices May 5, 2015 AOS + IV package submitted May 11, 2015 Scan Date

June 11, 2015 DS-260 submitted June 25, 2015 False checklist (for ds260).. hello? June 30, 2015 Answered checklist Aug 5, 2015 Escalated to Supervisor review Aug 13, 2015 Case Complete

Consular

Sept 10, 2015 Interview Scheduled Sept 11, 2015 P4 Letter received Sept 21, 2015 file In transit from NVC Sept 23, 2015 file at Embassy

Sept 28, 2015 Medical Oct 14, 2015 Biometrics Oct 15, 2015 Interview (Approved) Oct 19, 2015 IV visa Issued Oct 23, 2015 Passport Pickup

POE

Nov 2, 2015 Entered the US Nov 16, 2015 Applied for SSN, walk-in Nov 20, 2015 Social Security Card recd Jan 15, 2016 GC received

sourabhasawa Newbie

sourabhasawa   0

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Yes i will certainly apply for B1 this time. but do you guys think 9 months to 1 year is a decent time gap to reapply? Also, as I m likely to face the same situation next time, is consulate going to buy my idea of attending meetups and casual business networking???

I have to return to India, that's mandatory... as I cant run on outsourcing business in USA and I already have 50+ employees... would the VO buy this as a strong reason?

ManCharsey Collaborator

ManCharsey   254

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Yes i will certainly apply for B1 this time. but do you guys think 9 months to 1 year is a decent time gap to reapply? Also, as I m likely to face the same situation next time, is consulate going to buy my idea of attending meetups and casual business networking???

I have to return to India, that's mandatory... as I cant run on outsourcing business in USA and I already have 50+ employees... would the VO buy this as a strong reason?

In your words, will they '..buy my idea'.

If you are selling an idea, I'm sorry to tell you they won't be buying it for a penny! You have to have legitimate reasons and back it with concrete evidence on why you need the visa. Until then, don't go selling ideas at the embassy. They don't have time for that!

You talk you teach, you listen you learn

KierenHby Experienced

KierenHby   900

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, is consulate going to buy my idea of attending meetups and casual business networking???

... would the VO buy this as a strong reason?

Here's a novel concept.. Try being truthful !!!

USCIS

January 16, 2015 I-130 Mailed, Chi lockbox January 20, 2015 Priority Date, January 21, 2015 NOA1 notice date, Assigned VSC, January 23, 2015 Check Cashed, electronically March 5, 2015 NOA2

NVC

March 27, 2015 NVC received April 6, 2015 Case#, IIN# assigned April 8, 2015 Paid AOS + IV fee Invoices May 5, 2015 AOS + IV package submitted May 11, 2015 Scan Date

June 11, 2015 DS-260 submitted June 25, 2015 False checklist (for ds260).. hello? June 30, 2015 Answered checklist Aug 5, 2015 Escalated to Supervisor review Aug 13, 2015 Case Complete

Consular

Sept 10, 2015 Interview Scheduled Sept 11, 2015 P4 Letter received Sept 21, 2015 file In transit from NVC Sept 23, 2015 file at Embassy

Sept 28, 2015 Medical Oct 14, 2015 Biometrics Oct 15, 2015 Interview (Approved) Oct 19, 2015 IV visa Issued Oct 23, 2015 Passport Pickup

POE

Nov 2, 2015 Entered the US Nov 16, 2015 Applied for SSN, walk-in Nov 20, 2015 Social Security Card recd Jan 15, 2016 GC received

 
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