Requirements to marry, in the Philippines/adopting her daughter, who's birth father's name does NOT appear on the birth certificate.

[Tadhana 0]

Hi, my name is Philip R.

I am extremely new to this whole system. Having stated that, I am no stranger to the

Philippines; or, its' culture.

My last stint, in the Philippines was for a period of about 7 years, wherein I met

the little girl, who I intend to "legally" adopt, after marrying her mother. I've been

getting to know her mother, for a period of 6 years. I have been the ONLY Daddy

that the little girl has EVER known. Her birth father's name does NOT appear

on the child's birth certificate. Her mother & birth father were NEVER MARRIED.

The pregnancy resulted from a somewhat casual relationship, between her

mother & birth father. She has never seen her birth father.

I am back in America, now. I returned just 6 weeks ago. I will work for a period

of about 20 months, in order to SAVE enough money to RETURN to the Philippines,

marry her mother (my fiance'), "legally" adopt her/our daughter; then, remain with

them, in the Philippines, until our daughter would complete her 5th grade, in

elementary school, before our PLANNED return to America, in April of 2019.

Does ANYONE have any similar experience, like this. I am wanting to know

how long the process will take, what is required; &, how much it will cost ???

A prominent member of NSO, in Ilo Ilo, Philippines had indicated that the adoption process

would be relatively, easy, due to the fact that NO RECORD of a birth father exists; that the

process should take, just 5 months; &, that the cost would be about $2,325.

It is my HOPE / OUR plan that I will return to the Philippines, in June of 2018; that we will

get married, I will "legally" adopt OUR daughter; &, that we will, AS A FAMILY, return

to America, in April of 2019 to live out our lives, together, there.

PLEASE SHED ANY LIGHT ON THIS MATTER, ACCORDING TO EXPERIENCE; &/OR

RELATIVE LAWS/PROCEEDURES.

Thank you so much, Philip

Edited May 31, 2016 by Ryan H
Reason for edit: to remove full name

[Ontarkie 14,280]

~~Moved to the Philippines forum from IR1/CR1 P&P - As the OP has a number of questions that are country specific.~~

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

You have a pretty layed out plan...

However why dont you go the fiancee route your daugther will come on a K2 and then you can legally adopt here in the states??

you can still have her finish her schooling until the fifth grade also you are not seperated so long may be cheaper i dont know food for thought...

[Hank_ 9,174]

Did just a quick search.

Philippines requirements:

http://www.dswd.gov.ph/faqs/local-adoption-requirements-and-procedures/

Requirements aren't just from the Philippines:

https://travel.state.gov/content/adoptionsabroad/en/country-information/learn-about-a-country/philippines.html

Edited May 31, 2016 by Hank_

[Tadhana 0]

Dear Anita Feliz,

Thank you so much for your reply! My concern about going the fiance' visa route is this:

I do not trust ANYONE to care for her/our daughter, to be remaining, in the Philippines,

without me; or, her mother.

I'm I correct, in thinking that IF I DO use the fiance' visa route, that ONLY her mother

would be allowed to come to America, where we would be able to marry; then,

we would have to make arrangements for our daughter to join us?

A BIG concern is that I can NOT "LEGALLY" adopt her daughter until we get married.

Please, clue me in.

Thank you so much, Philip

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

Did just a quick search. Your case is different than a couple adopting a child, so there may be different rules/requirements.

Philippines requirements:

http://www.dswd.gov.ph/faqs/local-adoption-requirements-and-procedures/

Requirements aren't just from the Philippines:

https://travel.state.gov/content/adoptionsabroad/en/country-information/learn-about-a-country/philippines.html

Oh boy he has to be married 3 years if it through marriage and make 40,000 per year???

Theres alot of rules those two stood out...

Edited May 31, 2016 by Anitafeliz

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

Dear Anita Feliz,

Thank you so much for your reply! My concern about going the fiance' visa route is this:

I do not trust ANYONE to care for her/our daughter, to be remaining, in the Philippines,

without me; or, her mother.

I'm I correct, in thinking that IF I DO use the fiance' visa route, that ONLY her mother

would be allowed to come to America, where we would be able to marry; then,

we would have to make arrangements for our daughter to join us?

A BIG concern is that I can NOT "LEGALLY" adopt her daughter until we get married.

Please, clue me in.

Thank you so much, Philip

No the baby can come with her on the k2 same trip or you can have her join that there is your discretion

And its a good thing dads not on the birth record. This way his opinion is not needed i would check out the Phillipines forumn on here there are topics on that on here

I would do the fiancee adopt here plus I wouldnt tell anyone shes coming in case dad finds a new fatherly bond with his potencial future american daugther...

Edited May 31, 2016 by Anitafeliz

[Hank_ 9,174]

Dear Anita Feliz,

Thank you so much for your reply! My concern about going the fiance' visa route is this:

I do not trust ANYONE to care for her/our daughter, to be remaining, in the Philippines,

without me; or, her mother.

I'm I correct, in thinking that IF I DO use the fiance' visa route, that ONLY her mother

would be allowed to come to America, where we would be able to marry; then,

we would have to make arrangements for our daughter to join us?

A BIG concern is that I can NOT "LEGALLY" adopt her daughter until we get married.

Please, clue me in.

Thank you so much, Philip

You are not correct in regards to the K-1 fiancee visa. You simply list the child in Part 2 of the I-129F and she will be allowed to get a visa along with her mother (much simpler than going the immigrant visa route) and both come to the USA.

You can complete the adoption once in the USA if you so choose.

[Tadhana 0]

Hi Hank.

Thank you so much for your reply! I will review this information, as soon as I have

the opportunity. I'm sure it will be most helpful.

Thanks again, Philip

[Hank_ 9,174]

No the baby can come with her on the k2 same trip or you can have her join that there is your discretion

And its a good thing dads not on the birth record. This way his opinion is not needed i would check out the Phillipines forumn on here there are topics on that on here

I would do the fiancee adopt here plus I wouldnt tell anyone shes coming in case dad finds a new fatherly bond with his potencial future american daugther...

Mother has sole custody of the child. Father has no say.

Hi Hank.

Thank you so much for your reply! I will review this information, as soon as I have

the opportunity. I'm sure it will be most helpful.

Thanks again, Philip

By completing the visa route before the adoption you simplify things greatly.

[Anitafeliz 1,133]

And goes needless to say they can take you for a ride (adoption) and then you end up having tondonthe K1 route and adopt here...

[jg121783 3,917]

I am in the same situation as you. My wife and I got married in the Philippines in February and she has a 9 year old son who I want to adopt. From what people have told me it is easier and cheaper to bring your step chid here on a CR1 or K1 visa and go through the adoption process here. The fact that the mother was never married and the father isn't on the birth certificate should make things pretty straight forward. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Hank_ 9,174]

You got it about right...

[Tadhana 0]

I want to thank ALL OF YOU, so very very much for your support

& encouragement, regarding this matter!

I can NOT leave my daughter, ALONE, in the Philippines, even

for a short period of time; so, as long as SHE would be able

to join her mother, whether on a fiance' visa; or, following

marriage (in the Philippines) without any undue delay,

that is the MOST IMPORTANT consideration for me, my

fiance' & our daughter.

Thanks so very very very much, Philip

[Tadhana 0]

Hi

jg121783

You indicated that you have ALREADY married your spouse, IN THE PHILIPPINES.

Do you think it is "BEST" that I do the same; & then, apply for the visas to bring both

my wife & daughter back to America; & THEN, process the adoption of my daughter,

"legally"; or, do you think it's best for me to apply for a fiance' visa & TRY to bring

both of them, here, together & get married, in America???

My fiance's parents are both deceased; &, that is why I do not, under any

circumstances, want to allow our daughter to remain behind, even for a short,

time, no matter the "HOW"; or, what the process will be.

Thank you so much, Philip