Administrative Review - Who else, how long

[Turboguy 6]

NY Girl, an administrative review as near as I can tell is when something signals them that they need to look at an application closer. It may be the name is the same as someone who has created a problem or something to do with a prior problem such as wanting to check on a previous visa. I don't think anyone knows all the answers. It seems like it can come at any stage, whenever they find somethng that they think might be a red flag. Mine & Bins came at NVC. Omoba's came after the interview.

After you get your NOA-2 the regional center sends it to NVC. There it is assigned a case number based on the Embassy you will be using and the date it was processed. They then forward all the files for each embassy directly to the Embassy. The Embassy then of course arranges the interviews.

Sorry but after consulting with a few immigration lawyers, I found that the congressman can't influence the administrative processing much at all since it's an out of country issue. Pretty much the consulate has the final say and they seem to take however long they want to with AP process.

Sadly enough, there's no real way that you can speed up AP process especially with CP (AOS is different but I think that it can be more influenced). Found that out the hard way.

Is that also true is the application has never left the country. I can see if the ap is at the foreign embassy but in my case and Bins case we were early in the procedure and ours went from the regional center where it was approved to NVC where they put it in A/R and sent it to Washington? Just curious if you have any thoughts.

[A Wang 0]

NY Girl, an administrative review as near as I can tell is when something signals them that they need to look at an application closer. It may be the name is the same as someone who has created a problem or something to do with a prior problem such as wanting to check on a previous visa. I don't think anyone knows all the answers. It seems like it can come at any stage, whenever they find somethng that they think might be a red flag. Mine & Bins came at NVC. Omoba's came after the interview.

After you get your NOA-2 the regional center sends it to NVC. There it is assigned a case number based on the Embassy you will be using and the date it was processed. They then forward all the files for each embassy directly to the Embassy. The Embassy then of course arranges the interviews.

Sorry but after consulting with a few immigration lawyers, I found that the congressman can't influence the administrative processing much at all since it's an out of country issue. Pretty much the consulate has the final say and they seem to take however long they want to with AP process.

Sadly enough, there's no real way that you can speed up AP process especially with CP (AOS is different but I think that it can be more influenced). Found that out the hard way.

Is that also true is the application has never left the country. I can see if the ap is at the foreign embassy but in my case and Bins case we were early in the procedure and ours went from the regional center where it was approved to NVC where they put it in A/R and sent it to Washington? Just curious if you have any thoughts.

That is correct. If your A/P moves to the NVC within the States, then the congressman approach may help although this isn't too surefire. The toughest thing is trying to track down where the application is. For example, the diversity lottery case I'm working with is at the embassy itself so no US legal method can be useful here. It's a wait and see. However, if it got sent to Washington then it would be a better shot.

Of course, the worst thing is when you call up and get a 222(F) which is bad! They can be rather private on a ton of things!

[bin&jie 0]

Turboguy, we should contact congressman ASAP. someone from past experience have told me that it can be helpful to a extent that we can find out where the case is. NVC will have no idea now and it's FBI who are checking on all these things. the congressman can get response to FBI, although it will not speed up the AR process, but it will make sure that the case is not lost and make sure that someone will be working on it. I am going to pay a personal visit to the congressman office next week. it shouldn't hurt us to do so, so let's proceed with that and wait for the luck.

NY Girl, an administrative review as near as I can tell is when something signals them that they need to look at an application closer. It may be the name is the same as someone who has created a problem or something to do with a prior problem such as wanting to check on a previous visa. I don't think anyone knows all the answers. It seems like it can come at any stage, whenever they find somethng that they think might be a red flag. Mine & Bins came at NVC. Omoba's came after the interview.

After you get your NOA-2 the regional center sends it to NVC. There it is assigned a case number based on the Embassy you will be using and the date it was processed. They then forward all the files for each embassy directly to the Embassy. The Embassy then of course arranges the interviews.

Sorry but after consulting with a few immigration lawyers, I found that the congressman can't influence the administrative processing much at all since it's an out of country issue. Pretty much the consulate has the final say and they seem to take however long they want to with AP process.

Sadly enough, there's no real way that you can speed up AP process especially with CP (AOS is different but I think that it can be more influenced). Found that out the hard way.

Is that also true is the application has never left the country. I can see if the ap is at the foreign embassy but in my case and Bins case we were early in the procedure and ours went from the regional center where it was approved to NVC where they put it in A/R and sent it to Washington? Just curious if you have any thoughts.

That is correct. If your A/P moves to the NVC within the States, then the congressman approach may help although this isn't too surefire. The toughest thing is trying to track down where the application is. For example, the diversity lottery case I'm working with is at the embassy itself so no US legal method can be useful here. It's a wait and see. However, if it got sent to Washington then it would be a better shot.

Of course, the worst thing is when you call up and get a 222(F) which is bad! They can be rather private on a ton of things!

[Ta Ta 1]

Sorry but after consulting with a few immigration lawyers, I found that the congressman can't influence the administrative processing much at all since it's an out of country issue. Pretty much the consulate has the final say and they seem to take however long they want to with AP process.

Sadly enough, there's no real way that you can speed up AP process especially with CP (AOS is different but I think that it can be more influenced). Found that out the hard way.

I agree, if the petition is in the US get your congressman involved, if it is

at the foreign post it is useless.

[Turboguy 6]

Thanks guys, mine is still in the US. I will see what I can do.

A Wang, What is a 222-F? I know from first hand experience what a 221-G is but have not heard of a 222-F. I am guessing it is a denial and it leaves you up the creek without a paddle but that is just a guess.

[Yodrak 7]

Turboguy,

Look it up. 222-F, like 221-G, is a reference to the relevant section of the INA.

Yodrak

Thanks guys, mine is still in the US. I will see what I can do.

A Wang, What is a 222-F? I know from first hand experience what a 221-G is but have not heard of a 222-F. I am guessing it is a denial and it leaves you up the creek without a paddle but that is just a guess.

[A Wang 0]

Thanks guys, mine is still in the US. I will see what I can do.

A Wang, What is a 222-F? I know from first hand experience what a 221-G is but have not heard of a 222-F. I am guessing it is a denial and it leaves you up the creek without a paddle but that is just a guess.

222F is a provision under the Immigration Act that does not allow a person who isn't the applicant him/herself to inquire into the status of an pending case due to privacy issues. In fact, this is invoked if a person such as a sponsor tried to ask about the status of administrative processing via e-mail, etc.

[Turboguy 6]

Thanks for explaining it to me. I was mostly just curious since so far it does not apply to me. I do apprecaite the information.

[bin&jie 0]

alright, updates from me, they told me that It is now going through Administrative processing , I asked them that last time I was told it's under administrative review. she replied:" it is the same thing" ......... she said it's out our nvc's control and she doesn't even know which agency is involved in this. 55555555555555555 damn

Thanks for explaining it to me. I was mostly just curious since so far it does not apply to me. I do apprecaite the information.

[A Wang 0]

alright, updates from me, they told me that It is now going through Administrative processing , I asked them that last time I was told it's under administrative review. she replied:" it is the same thing" ......... she said it's out our nvc's control and she doesn't even know which agency is involved in this. 55555555555555555 damn

Thanks for explaining it to me. I was mostly just curious since so far it does not apply to me. I do apprecaite the information.

Strangely enough I am disliking administrative processing due to the lack of transparency. It's one of the few things I find a lot more mysterious than say the 1040A!

Hopefully the 2.25 months will be over soon and the DV visa will be issued. But it's a matter of time

[Turboguy 6]

I agree with that. At least with anything else you can find some timelines to give you some kind of idea what to expect. With A/R it could be tomorrow or 2 years from now. If it is going to be delayed I would like to find a nice spot to spend a month or so with my fiancee but who can plan with so much uncertainty. Really sucks.

[babybunny 2]

I am just curious how many others find themselves in that big black hole called Administrative Review, how long you have been sitting there and what courses of action you have been taking?

Mine has been there for 6 weeks. I am giving it 4 more and then going to contact my congresman's immigration specialist to see if they can help. I know of no reason for it. It is the second K-1 for both me and my fiancee (not to the same person). I am guessing they are checking to see what happened on her last K-1 which she stayed here for 30 days and returned home well ahead of the 90 day period she was allowed. Other than that we have a clean slate.

you need to contac your congress now. dont wait. what for?

AP is long process. I been in this mess 2 years and 3 months. normally I like to tell people to contact

their congressman after 2 weeks of being placed on AP/

Three month ! Congressmen can not help at this stage. It will take however long

they want it to take. No info on specifics is given other than we are being "investigated

in the fraud prevention unit " and there is no time frame when the case will be

completed.

ah oh!

this will take sometime. have you contacted your senator?

[babybunny 2]

right here with you , will contact congressman after 2 weeks, i just can't wait..... it's rueling all of our plans..

I am just curious how many others find themselves in that big black hole called Administrative Review, how long you have been sitting there and what courses of action you have been taking?

Mine has been there for 6 weeks. I am giving it 4 more and then going to contact my congresman's immigration specialist to see if they can help. I know of no reason for it. It is the second K-1 for both me and my fiancee (not to the same person). I am guessing they are checking to see what happened on her last K-1 which she stayed here for 30 days and returned home well ahead of the 90 day period she was allowed. Other than that we have a clean slate.

Til you are off AP - STOP PLANNING things. I know a lady on VJ filing for K-1 visa.

she was on AP 3 years. AP is a black whole. the best way to deal with this is keep calling DOS

asking for updates, send e mails to congressman

here is he number for the DOS < department of state >

202 663 1225

[The_dip_sticks 0]

Babvbunny, should I call DOS? My case is not at NVC its at USCIS still and all I know is that I got two letters one for the I130 and another for the I 1s9F saying that we are in security checks. Does that mean that I should call DOS?

[babybunny 2]

Babvbunny, should I call DOS? My case is not at NVC its at USCIS still and all I know is that I got two letters one for the I130 and another for the I 1s9F saying that we are in security checks. Does that mean that I should call DOS?

I would call DOS. it cant hurt. in this process as you can see the LEFT hand never knows what the Right hand is doing.