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Hello,

I've posted about this before (http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/568253-no-oath-letter-after-2-months/#entry7840022) but felt it might be worth another shot. We submitted N-400 paperwork in January, and had a successful interview early July. As the months have gone by, I was told by USCIS that they had 120 days to process things after the interview and sent some sort of notification for the Oath Ceremony. Additionally, I was told that after 90 days I could inquire about how things were going and that they would look into it.

90 days passed, I called, and they said they'd have a look. I received a letter that was typical USCIS-speak that basically just told me to keep waiting, everything was in order. I'm nearing the 120 day mark, which apparently is the limit USCIS has to process things. Does anyone have any experience getting to this point? Should I make an infopass appointment for the day after the 120 mark in the hopes that they will actually do something?

Any help/advice is greatly appreciated. Good luck to everyone waiting.

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USCIS no longer schedules interviews before FBI name checks are complete. Although it is possible they blundered in your case, but as a general rule they no longer tend to interview people with pending BGC's. Reason is: you now can sue them in a Federal Court and force them to issue a decision, under 120 days rule. So, consider yourself lucky. The main thing is to have an interview. Once you have it bureaucrats are trapped into statutory obligation to move their lazy behinds and do something about your case within 120 days. They can no longer yank your chain and play out their ill-conceived BDSM fantasies on you.

I would suggest you to wait exacty 120 days (you mentioned interview took place in "early July") and then immediately file a lawsuit against all Federal agencies in charge of processing your case. You could expect a speedy settlement by US Attorney before it goes to trial.

Good luck!

Hello,

I've posted about this before (http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/568253-no-oath-letter-after-2-months/#entry7840022) but felt it might be worth another shot. We submitted N-400 paperwork in January, and had a successful interview early July. As the months have gone by, I was told by USCIS that they had 120 days to process things after the interview and sent some sort of notification for the Oath Ceremony. Additionally, I was told that after 90 days I could inquire about how things were going and that they would look into it.

90 days passed, I called, and they said they'd have a look. I received a letter that was typical USCIS-speak that basically just told me to keep waiting, everything was in order. I'm nearing the 120 day mark, which apparently is the limit USCIS has to process things. Does anyone have any experience getting to this point? Should I make an infopass appointment for the day after the 120 mark in the hopes that they will actually do something?

Any help/advice is greatly appreciated. Good luck to everyone waiting.

Edited by N400applicant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0dQA0vMJxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wquCCFvbNhI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5pdgyOzJtE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neqFpWDQ61w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RneoccuJwY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTUU_ykQbfg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdi3Cg2Uq1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5HVJdMGAMs

==================================================

First Amendment and separation of Church from State has a lot more to it than most of our contemporaries realize.

The truth is, the Pilgrims were Puritan fascists who were only looking for their
own
religious freedom. They were too ... independent and fanatical even for the more mainstream zealots of English and European Reformations. They called themselves “Puritans” because they were dedicated to
purifying
the Church of England of Roman influences. They
hated
Rome and they
hated
heretics, and they
hated
sinners and they really hated
witches
. Their reigning English King, James I was also a foaming Protestant Scottish witch hunter, and was every bit as fanatical as the Pilgrims were, since they were all theological soul mates. But James I actually had to sophisticate himself a bit, particularly stifling his witch-hating fanaticism when he took power in England. He had to accommodate the more moderate and educated Protestantism that then still held great sway in his English Court and Parliament. This social moderation at home however, didn’t slow him from encouraging the exportation of sharp, Puritan zeal to his growing colonies in the New World though, where raw Puritanism would be free to dominate the new society he intended to found there.

I say with very little exaggeration, that living under Puritan rule in the New England American Colonies would be nearly as religiously oppressive as living under the Taliban in Afghanistan, or Wahhabi ruled Saudi Arabia. The principle difference between Sharia Law and Pilgrim Law would be that the Pilgrims let women show
puritan-whipping_thumb.jpg?w=244&h=244

their whole faces in public. the Puritans in particular on the other hand, weren’t all that put off by the Inquisition’s tactics or even goals in and of themselves. The Puritans and many other Reformers in truth just wanted the Inquisitional zeal applied unilaterally up and down the Church ranks from clergy to commoner. They just didn’t think you should be able to buy or politic your way out of being tortured into a confession of heresy. They figured that kings, Popes and bishops and priests were just as good candidates for heresy as anyone else—the more the merrier. Puritans in short, actually wanted
more
repression and
more
micromanaging of the Body of Christ. They wanted the power to institute the same sort of fanatical purification of Christendom that the Inquisition only
pretended
to enforce, and then only selectively, often for personal, social, or political reasons. The Puritans wanted their newly cleansed Protestant Inquistition to be
universally
applied to all Christians of whatever rank. The Puritans wanted
everyone
to be beaten into piety whatever his station in the Church or society– they just wanted to insure it was being done fairly and correctly by a dictatorial theocracy of their
own
design.We read about the Salem Witch trials, some decades after the Pilgrims landed, and think that hanging nineteen men and women as witches on the say-so of a couple of snotty little girls looking for attention was a fluke carried out by an isolated, small group of inbred fanatics. We think the old man they crushed under stones for refusing to submit to their trials was the result of some abnormal paranoia due to the bunker mentality of a pioneer colony in a harsh new land. When we read about the dozens of fellow colonists they just let rot in jail for months as they queued them up for their American Inquisition, we assume that this sort of fiendish treatment had to be the product of some sort of atypical mass mental illness brought about through a bad diet and not enough sunlight. But no,
that’s what Puritans did
.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGASvVqzOa0

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No do not wait any longer. You need to make an info pass appointment TODAY and go to your Field Office and ask them what is going on. You are past phone calls and service requests. Info pass is the best way. Even if you have to request to speak to a supervisor do so. Good luck.

I think you're right. I just made an infopass appointment for the 120 day mark (in a few days). Hopefully it resolves this. I was just wondering if anyone else had a similar experience.

USCIS no longer schedules interviews before FBI name checks are complete. Although it is possible they blundered in your case, but as a general rule they no longer tend to interview people with pending BGC's. Reason is: you now can sue them in a Federal Court and force them to issue a decision, under 120 days rule. So, consider yourself lucky. The main thing is to have an interview. Once you have it bureaucrats are trapped into statutory obligation to move their lazy behinds and do something about your case within 120 days. They can no longer yank your chain and play out their ill-conceived BDSM fantasies on you.

I would suggest you to wait exacty 120 days (you mentioned interview took place in "early July") and then immediately file a lawsuit against all Federal agencies in charge of processing your case. You could expect a speedy settlement by US Attorney before it goes to trial.

Good luck!

Hope it doesn't come to that, but thanks for the tips.

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I think you're right. I just made an infopass appointment for the 120 day mark (in a few days). Hopefully it resolves this. I was just wondering if anyone else had a similar experience.

Hope it doesn't come to that, but thanks for the tips.

Everytime, I have made an infopass, there was movement either on that day or the day after. They can see your case and can easily go to the officer who has it. You made a good choice. The infopass should help or you could hear something before that day. This has nothing to do with your background checks since you already had an interview. Maybe someone just being lazy with your file.

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Many people seem to suggest INFOPASS as means to get any traction on pending cases.

And I know from my personal experience that INFOPASS is as useless as Googling for your individual case update. I visited Baltimore DO twice after my I-485 interview an in both cases all they told me was "Wait for another 120 days", and nothing else.

Mind you, couple of days after the last time I was told to wait 120 days my application was approved. I also did Senatorial inquiries, which is the only thing that may have made any impact on my case processing. Definitely not the INFOPASS.

I had a feeling that the INFOPASS officers at Baltimore DO didn't even look up my case (and they had my file right there, at the local office).

If INFOPASS works for some folk somewhere else then I would think that the major problem is not an INFOPASS Per Se but the Baltimore DO.

jjjdddlll, if you get any updates or good news after INFOPASS would you report it here, along with info on your local DO?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0dQA0vMJxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wquCCFvbNhI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5pdgyOzJtE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neqFpWDQ61w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RneoccuJwY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTUU_ykQbfg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdi3Cg2Uq1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5HVJdMGAMs

==================================================

First Amendment and separation of Church from State has a lot more to it than most of our contemporaries realize.

The truth is, the Pilgrims were Puritan fascists who were only looking for their
own
religious freedom. They were too ... independent and fanatical even for the more mainstream zealots of English and European Reformations. They called themselves “Puritans” because they were dedicated to
purifying
the Church of England of Roman influences. They
hated
Rome and they
hated
heretics, and they
hated
sinners and they really hated
witches
. Their reigning English King, James I was also a foaming Protestant Scottish witch hunter, and was every bit as fanatical as the Pilgrims were, since they were all theological soul mates. But James I actually had to sophisticate himself a bit, particularly stifling his witch-hating fanaticism when he took power in England. He had to accommodate the more moderate and educated Protestantism that then still held great sway in his English Court and Parliament. This social moderation at home however, didn’t slow him from encouraging the exportation of sharp, Puritan zeal to his growing colonies in the New World though, where raw Puritanism would be free to dominate the new society he intended to found there.

I say with very little exaggeration, that living under Puritan rule in the New England American Colonies would be nearly as religiously oppressive as living under the Taliban in Afghanistan, or Wahhabi ruled Saudi Arabia. The principle difference between Sharia Law and Pilgrim Law would be that the Pilgrims let women show
puritan-whipping_thumb.jpg?w=244&h=244

their whole faces in public. the Puritans in particular on the other hand, weren’t all that put off by the Inquisition’s tactics or even goals in and of themselves. The Puritans and many other Reformers in truth just wanted the Inquisitional zeal applied unilaterally up and down the Church ranks from clergy to commoner. They just didn’t think you should be able to buy or politic your way out of being tortured into a confession of heresy. They figured that kings, Popes and bishops and priests were just as good candidates for heresy as anyone else—the more the merrier. Puritans in short, actually wanted
more
repression and
more
micromanaging of the Body of Christ. They wanted the power to institute the same sort of fanatical purification of Christendom that the Inquisition only
pretended
to enforce, and then only selectively, often for personal, social, or political reasons. The Puritans wanted their newly cleansed Protestant Inquistition to be
universally
applied to all Christians of whatever rank. The Puritans wanted
everyone
to be beaten into piety whatever his station in the Church or society– they just wanted to insure it was being done fairly and correctly by a dictatorial theocracy of their
own
design.We read about the Salem Witch trials, some decades after the Pilgrims landed, and think that hanging nineteen men and women as witches on the say-so of a couple of snotty little girls looking for attention was a fluke carried out by an isolated, small group of inbred fanatics. We think the old man they crushed under stones for refusing to submit to their trials was the result of some abnormal paranoia due to the bunker mentality of a pioneer colony in a harsh new land. When we read about the dozens of fellow colonists they just let rot in jail for months as they queued them up for their American Inquisition, we assume that this sort of fiendish treatment had to be the product of some sort of atypical mass mental illness brought about through a bad diet and not enough sunlight. But no,
that’s what Puritans did
.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGASvVqzOa0

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N400applicant.....just because you had bad experiences it does not mean everyone has. I have found out more on infopass appointment. For example, I knew the USCIS website was going to be updated on that day (though she couldn't tell me exactly what the update was and me to wait and check the site in 6hrs) I last had my INFOPASS appointment and just like the officer told me, it updated that afternoon 8 hours later. You seems to pouring your frustrations on others and discouraging them based on your experiences. Every experience is different

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manato, as the saying goes, we are entitled to our opinion but we are not entitled to our facts.

As far as random delays and BDSM games of USCIS concerned, I rely on their own Congressional report. According to what they have reported to US Congress, about 10% of applicants go through indefinite delays when applying for immigration benefits requiring background checks. But, read this, only 0.2% get ultimately denied on security grounds. The rest are eventually approved (some as late as 7 years after applying).

This is not my opinion, this is what is going on in terms of mishandling of the 9.8% of the cases. And I never imply that just because 9.8% have been victim to USCIS's BDSM games, the remanining 90% also had the same experience.

As to INFOPASS, I have a personal experience going to Baltimore DO and at the end of the day (when it comes to INFOPASS) I do trust my personal experiences more than what what I read about it online. After all, personal experience to me is a direct source and evidence of how the program works.

And I can tell you that there is no information at all that Baltimore DO provided me when I visited it twice after scheduling INFOPASS.

They didn't even try to make it look like they are giving me an update. They could be a little more creative and come up with some made up excuse for a delay that would make me feel like they are doing somehting. nstead I had stone faced officers, staring at the computer in front of them then looking at me and telling me to wait another 120 days. Which , I guess, is a generic message basically meaning "freak off".

If you notice, I didn't claim that my experience applies to all Nationwide. In fact I wrote the following: If INFOPASS works for some folk somewhere else then I would think that the major problem is not an INFOPASS Per Se but the Baltimore DO. And , rather than discouraging, asked poster to share his experiences about his local DO INFOPASS appointment.

So, once again, I don't know where you got the impression that I blanketly asserted EVERYONE has the same experience with INFOPASS.

You should carefully read what I write.

N400applicant.....just because you had bad experiences it does not mean everyone has. I have found out more on infopass appointment. For example, I knew the USCIS website was going to be updated on that day (though she couldn't tell me exactly what the update was and me to wait and check the site in 6hrs) I last had my INFOPASS appointment and just like the officer told me, it updated that afternoon 8 hours later. You seems to pouring your frustrations on others and discouraging them based on your experiences. Every experience is different

Edited by N400applicant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0dQA0vMJxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wquCCFvbNhI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5pdgyOzJtE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neqFpWDQ61w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RneoccuJwY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTUU_ykQbfg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdi3Cg2Uq1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5HVJdMGAMs

==================================================

First Amendment and separation of Church from State has a lot more to it than most of our contemporaries realize.

The truth is, the Pilgrims were Puritan fascists who were only looking for their
own
religious freedom. They were too ... independent and fanatical even for the more mainstream zealots of English and European Reformations. They called themselves “Puritans” because they were dedicated to
purifying
the Church of England of Roman influences. They
hated
Rome and they
hated
heretics, and they
hated
sinners and they really hated
witches
. Their reigning English King, James I was also a foaming Protestant Scottish witch hunter, and was every bit as fanatical as the Pilgrims were, since they were all theological soul mates. But James I actually had to sophisticate himself a bit, particularly stifling his witch-hating fanaticism when he took power in England. He had to accommodate the more moderate and educated Protestantism that then still held great sway in his English Court and Parliament. This social moderation at home however, didn’t slow him from encouraging the exportation of sharp, Puritan zeal to his growing colonies in the New World though, where raw Puritanism would be free to dominate the new society he intended to found there.

I say with very little exaggeration, that living under Puritan rule in the New England American Colonies would be nearly as religiously oppressive as living under the Taliban in Afghanistan, or Wahhabi ruled Saudi Arabia. The principle difference between Sharia Law and Pilgrim Law would be that the Pilgrims let women show
puritan-whipping_thumb.jpg?w=244&h=244

their whole faces in public. the Puritans in particular on the other hand, weren’t all that put off by the Inquisition’s tactics or even goals in and of themselves. The Puritans and many other Reformers in truth just wanted the Inquisitional zeal applied unilaterally up and down the Church ranks from clergy to commoner. They just didn’t think you should be able to buy or politic your way out of being tortured into a confession of heresy. They figured that kings, Popes and bishops and priests were just as good candidates for heresy as anyone else—the more the merrier. Puritans in short, actually wanted
more
repression and
more
micromanaging of the Body of Christ. They wanted the power to institute the same sort of fanatical purification of Christendom that the Inquisition only
pretended
to enforce, and then only selectively, often for personal, social, or political reasons. The Puritans wanted their newly cleansed Protestant Inquistition to be
universally
applied to all Christians of whatever rank. The Puritans wanted
everyone
to be beaten into piety whatever his station in the Church or society– they just wanted to insure it was being done fairly and correctly by a dictatorial theocracy of their
own
design.We read about the Salem Witch trials, some decades after the Pilgrims landed, and think that hanging nineteen men and women as witches on the say-so of a couple of snotty little girls looking for attention was a fluke carried out by an isolated, small group of inbred fanatics. We think the old man they crushed under stones for refusing to submit to their trials was the result of some abnormal paranoia due to the bunker mentality of a pioneer colony in a harsh new land. When we read about the dozens of fellow colonists they just let rot in jail for months as they queued them up for their American Inquisition, we assume that this sort of fiendish treatment had to be the product of some sort of atypical mass mental illness brought about through a bad diet and not enough sunlight. But no,
that’s what Puritans did
.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGASvVqzOa0

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I got it from your opening statement here...

"Many people seem to suggest INFOPASS as means to get any traction on pending cases.

And I know from my personal experience that INFOPASS is as useless as Googling for your individual case update. I visited Baltimore DO twice after my I-485 interview an in both cases all they told me was "Wait for another 120 days", and nothing else.

Mind you, couple of days after the last time I was told to wait 120 days my application was approved. I also did Senatorial inquiries, which is the only thing that may have made any impact on my case processing. Definitely not the INFOPASS.

I had a feeling that the INFOPASS officers at Baltimore DO didn't even look up my case (and they had my file right there, at the local office)."

Not really accurate. I have gotten more from INFOPASS than you are saying. Actually one guy went for an INFOPASS and the officer at the window went and talked to the officer with the case and he came back and told him that the officer as promised to finish it up the following week. Sure as he promised, he got an approval the following week yet his case was pending for more than two months after interview.

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What do you mean when you say Not really accurate ?

Are you disputing my account of events? Are you saying that you know better what informaiton I have got from INFOPASS, more than what I know? :))) Are you a USCIS Officer at Baltimore DO? Were you the one who I had INFOPASS with? :))

What you have gotten from INFOPASS has nothing to do with what I have gotten.

I share my personal experience with INFOPASS, not yours.

Btw, what DO you visited? Where is your local office located?

I got it from your opening statement here...

"Many people seem to suggest INFOPASS as means to get any traction on pending cases.

And I know from my personal experience that INFOPASS is as useless as Googling for your individual case update. I visited Baltimore DO twice after my I-485 interview an in both cases all they told me was "Wait for another 120 days", and nothing else.

Mind you, couple of days after the last time I was told to wait 120 days my application was approved. I also did Senatorial inquiries, which is the only thing that may have made any impact on my case processing. Definitely not the INFOPASS.

I had a feeling that the INFOPASS officers at Baltimore DO didn't even look up my case (and they had my file right there, at the local office)."

Not really accurate. I have gotten more from INFOPASS than you are saying. Actually one guy went for an INFOPASS and the officer at the window went and talked to the officer with the case and he came back and told him that the officer as promised to finish it up the following week. Sure as he promised, he got an approval the following week yet his case was pending for more than two months after interview.

Edited by N400applicant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0dQA0vMJxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wquCCFvbNhI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5pdgyOzJtE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neqFpWDQ61w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RneoccuJwY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTUU_ykQbfg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdi3Cg2Uq1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5HVJdMGAMs

==================================================

First Amendment and separation of Church from State has a lot more to it than most of our contemporaries realize.

The truth is, the Pilgrims were Puritan fascists who were only looking for their
own
religious freedom. They were too ... independent and fanatical even for the more mainstream zealots of English and European Reformations. They called themselves “Puritans” because they were dedicated to
purifying
the Church of England of Roman influences. They
hated
Rome and they
hated
heretics, and they
hated
sinners and they really hated
witches
. Their reigning English King, James I was also a foaming Protestant Scottish witch hunter, and was every bit as fanatical as the Pilgrims were, since they were all theological soul mates. But James I actually had to sophisticate himself a bit, particularly stifling his witch-hating fanaticism when he took power in England. He had to accommodate the more moderate and educated Protestantism that then still held great sway in his English Court and Parliament. This social moderation at home however, didn’t slow him from encouraging the exportation of sharp, Puritan zeal to his growing colonies in the New World though, where raw Puritanism would be free to dominate the new society he intended to found there.

I say with very little exaggeration, that living under Puritan rule in the New England American Colonies would be nearly as religiously oppressive as living under the Taliban in Afghanistan, or Wahhabi ruled Saudi Arabia. The principle difference between Sharia Law and Pilgrim Law would be that the Pilgrims let women show
puritan-whipping_thumb.jpg?w=244&h=244

their whole faces in public. the Puritans in particular on the other hand, weren’t all that put off by the Inquisition’s tactics or even goals in and of themselves. The Puritans and many other Reformers in truth just wanted the Inquisitional zeal applied unilaterally up and down the Church ranks from clergy to commoner. They just didn’t think you should be able to buy or politic your way out of being tortured into a confession of heresy. They figured that kings, Popes and bishops and priests were just as good candidates for heresy as anyone else—the more the merrier. Puritans in short, actually wanted
more
repression and
more
micromanaging of the Body of Christ. They wanted the power to institute the same sort of fanatical purification of Christendom that the Inquisition only
pretended
to enforce, and then only selectively, often for personal, social, or political reasons. The Puritans wanted their newly cleansed Protestant Inquistition to be
universally
applied to all Christians of whatever rank. The Puritans wanted
everyone
to be beaten into piety whatever his station in the Church or society– they just wanted to insure it was being done fairly and correctly by a dictatorial theocracy of their
own
design.We read about the Salem Witch trials, some decades after the Pilgrims landed, and think that hanging nineteen men and women as witches on the say-so of a couple of snotty little girls looking for attention was a fluke carried out by an isolated, small group of inbred fanatics. We think the old man they crushed under stones for refusing to submit to their trials was the result of some abnormal paranoia due to the bunker mentality of a pioneer colony in a harsh new land. When we read about the dozens of fellow colonists they just let rot in jail for months as they queued them up for their American Inquisition, we assume that this sort of fiendish treatment had to be the product of some sort of atypical mass mental illness brought about through a bad diet and not enough sunlight. But no,
that’s what Puritans did
.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGASvVqzOa0

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I posted about it here (http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/574165-120-days-past-interview-reccommended-for-approval-uscis-says-keep-waiting/), but basically I was told at the infopass appointment that the 120 days "doesn't apply to this case" and that essentially they can take as long as necessary and there is no time limit at all. Not very encouraging.

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It doesn't matter what they tell you. 120 days rule is written in statute or regulations. USCIS doesn't decide what the law is. File the case and let the Federal Judge determine if it applies to your case or not. Consult an immigration attorney if you can.

I posted about it here (http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/574165-120-days-past-interview-reccommended-for-approval-uscis-says-keep-waiting/), but basically I was told at the infopass appointment that the 120 days "doesn't apply to this case" and that essentially they can take as long as necessary and there is no time limit at all. Not very encouraging.

Edited by N400applicant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0dQA0vMJxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wquCCFvbNhI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5pdgyOzJtE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neqFpWDQ61w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RneoccuJwY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTUU_ykQbfg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdi3Cg2Uq1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5HVJdMGAMs

==================================================

First Amendment and separation of Church from State has a lot more to it than most of our contemporaries realize.

The truth is, the Pilgrims were Puritan fascists who were only looking for their
own
religious freedom. They were too ... independent and fanatical even for the more mainstream zealots of English and European Reformations. They called themselves “Puritans” because they were dedicated to
purifying
the Church of England of Roman influences. They
hated
Rome and they
hated
heretics, and they
hated
sinners and they really hated
witches
. Their reigning English King, James I was also a foaming Protestant Scottish witch hunter, and was every bit as fanatical as the Pilgrims were, since they were all theological soul mates. But James I actually had to sophisticate himself a bit, particularly stifling his witch-hating fanaticism when he took power in England. He had to accommodate the more moderate and educated Protestantism that then still held great sway in his English Court and Parliament. This social moderation at home however, didn’t slow him from encouraging the exportation of sharp, Puritan zeal to his growing colonies in the New World though, where raw Puritanism would be free to dominate the new society he intended to found there.

I say with very little exaggeration, that living under Puritan rule in the New England American Colonies would be nearly as religiously oppressive as living under the Taliban in Afghanistan, or Wahhabi ruled Saudi Arabia. The principle difference between Sharia Law and Pilgrim Law would be that the Pilgrims let women show
puritan-whipping_thumb.jpg?w=244&h=244

their whole faces in public. the Puritans in particular on the other hand, weren’t all that put off by the Inquisition’s tactics or even goals in and of themselves. The Puritans and many other Reformers in truth just wanted the Inquisitional zeal applied unilaterally up and down the Church ranks from clergy to commoner. They just didn’t think you should be able to buy or politic your way out of being tortured into a confession of heresy. They figured that kings, Popes and bishops and priests were just as good candidates for heresy as anyone else—the more the merrier. Puritans in short, actually wanted
more
repression and
more
micromanaging of the Body of Christ. They wanted the power to institute the same sort of fanatical purification of Christendom that the Inquisition only
pretended
to enforce, and then only selectively, often for personal, social, or political reasons. The Puritans wanted their newly cleansed Protestant Inquistition to be
universally
applied to all Christians of whatever rank. The Puritans wanted
everyone
to be beaten into piety whatever his station in the Church or society– they just wanted to insure it was being done fairly and correctly by a dictatorial theocracy of their
own
design.We read about the Salem Witch trials, some decades after the Pilgrims landed, and think that hanging nineteen men and women as witches on the say-so of a couple of snotty little girls looking for attention was a fluke carried out by an isolated, small group of inbred fanatics. We think the old man they crushed under stones for refusing to submit to their trials was the result of some abnormal paranoia due to the bunker mentality of a pioneer colony in a harsh new land. When we read about the dozens of fellow colonists they just let rot in jail for months as they queued them up for their American Inquisition, we assume that this sort of fiendish treatment had to be the product of some sort of atypical mass mental illness brought about through a bad diet and not enough sunlight. But no,
that’s what Puritans did
.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGASvVqzOa0

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On 11/1/2015 at 4:04 PM, jjjdddlll said:

I think you're right. I just made an infopass appointment for the 120 day mark (in a few days). Hopefully it resolves this. I was just wondering if anyone else had a similar experience.

Hope it doesn't come to that, but thanks for the tips.

i am in the same situation.

August 8, 2016 - filed application N400

May 2, 2017 - Interview

May 5, 2017 - updated my status to be scheduled for my oath Ceremony

September 13, 2017 - still no oath taking notice, called USCIS and talk to Tier 2 didnt get any answer from them. all he said that , he saw that they approved my application but didnt see ant date and time for my Oath taking, advice me to make info pass to ask them what is going on in my case.

 

really...? i wanted to make an info pass appointment since i reached the 90 days but they told me to wait for 120 days because within that time they will update my case. now it is been passed 120 days it is been 128 days to be exact and they still can give me a proper answer... so tired of waiting on them. i will going to write my senator a letter so they can process my case

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Hello jjjdddlll.......I'm kind of in the same boat like you. Interview passed on Oct 13th 2017 and 90 days have passed. Wife passed her interview after me and got her oath ceremony letter in December 2017 and has a US passport now

 

Please tell me how did your case get resolved finally? Did you just keep waiting or you approached someone?

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16 hours ago, JBC71 said:

Hello jjjdddlll.......I'm kind of in the same boat like you. Interview passed on Oct 13th 2017 and 90 days have passed. Wife passed her interview after me and got her oath ceremony letter in December 2017 and has a US passport now

 

Please tell me how did your case get resolved finally? Did you just keep waiting or you approached someone?

 

I just waited, as with everything else.

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