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Hey all :)

It has been a long, long time since we posted a question here.

As my signature shows, H and I were active members here at VJ over a decade ago when we met, applied for a K-1, and married.

Getting his Permanent Resident Card took FOREVER (okay, only 4 years...) but eventually the 10-year card was issued.

Now we're back with some questions about his Naturalization application.

1) DIVORCE

We divorced in 2012, but remained friends. We've got a copy of the divorce decree (it was simple, only 5 pages). QUESTION: since he was a Permanent Resident since 2009, do we need to include the original marriage paperwork? Or do they only need the proof of divorce? Since he's been a Permanent Resident since 2009 we're hoping, since that's 5+ years ago, that he can apply for naturalization with just the notarized divorce decree.

2) ARRESTED / CITED / DETAINED (question #23)

In June 2011, H got his first traffic ticket. It was for running a red light ("disregard traffic signal") with no accident; he just got pulled over and ticketed. Unfortunately, since it was his first time ticketed, he missed the due date for paying the fine and ended up getting his license suspended for "failure to appear" at court for the unpaid ticket. After paying the fine, his license was reinstated and everything was fine... except now, when we're confused as to whether that mark on his record would could as being "cited"...

We printed out a BMV report showing that his license is currently valid/not suspended. It shows the dates, the reason for the suspension, and the court case number. QUESTION: we plan to include the BMV print-out and a cover sheet with an explanation. Does anyone know if this situation requires "an original official statement by the arresting agency or applicant court confirming that no charges were filed" (N-400 Document Checklist, page 2)...?

We're unclear on whether the BMV print-out and explanation are enough, or whether we need an additional "original official statement". Any comments on this question would be appreciated!

3) AFFIDAVIT

As the ex, I plan to include a notarized Affidavit confirming that our marriage was entered into in good faith, and that I still wholeheartedly support his application for naturalization. That seemed like a smart thing to do... QUESTION: Has anyone done that before? Is it a good idea? Would it also help to get notarized statements from his current boss, other friends, etc? He's still basically like a member of the family, so my father wondered if a letter from another family member would help establish his good character, etc.

Thoughts.......?

Thanks for reading. It's been a long time since I posted here, so I truly appreciate it.

E

Me (Indiana) & Him (Fes, Morocco)

Summer 2002: Met in Morocco
Summer 2004: Began work on 129f; joined VJ rather than hiring a lawyer

I-129f Submission & Approval
Oct 19, 2004: I-129f to VSC
Oct 29: NOA2 online -- approved in 6 days, 10/23 to 10/29!

From NVC to Consulate & All the Way Home...
Nov 8, 2004: Case to Casablanca
Feb 23: Interview; CO said they'll call in 2-3 weeks
Mar 2: Casa calls; visa in hand the next day!
Mar 24: Arrival at JFK; over four hours waiting, but got an EAD
April 15, 2005: Married

AOS
Aug 10, 2005: AOS/EAD/AP to Chicago
Nov 12: AOS prints taken

2006, 2007, 2008, 2009:
EAD renewals often delayed. (?)
Info-Pass officials will say only that "other authorities" are handling our case; we eventually got our Senator's office involved
Spring 2009: A letter arrives, saying his 2005 fingerprints have expired and need to be updated. We head down to Indy and get his prints redone.
June 2009: We FINALLY get the AOS interview letter just shy of FOUR YEARS since submission of AOS application...

July 2009: after the interview, his 10-year Green Card arrives. Alle-freaking-luia.

N-400

Application in progress, 2015. We divorced in 2012 but are still good friends. E is helping organize H's application for Naturalization... fingers crossed!

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How hard to pin down the truth, especially when one is obliged to see the world in slices; snapshots conceal as much as they make plain. (Rushdie, Shame)

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Hey all :)

It has been a long, long time since we posted a question here.

As my signature shows, H and I were active members here at VJ over a decade ago when we met, applied for a K-1, and married.

Getting his Permanent Resident Card took FOREVER (okay, only 4 years...) but eventually the 10-year card was issued.

Now we're back with some questions about his Naturalization application.

1) DIVORCE

We divorced in 2012, but remained friends. We've got a copy of the divorce decree (it was simple, only 5 pages). QUESTION: since he was a Permanent Resident since 2009, do we need to include the original marriage paperwork? Or do they only need the proof of divorce? Since he's been a Permanent Resident since 2009 we're hoping, since that's 5+ years ago, that he can apply for naturalization with just the notarized divorce decree.

2) ARRESTED / CITED / DETAINED (question #23)

In June 2011, H got his first traffic ticket. It was for running a red light ("disregard traffic signal") with no accident; he just got pulled over and ticketed. Unfortunately, since it was his first time ticketed, he missed the due date for paying the fine and ended up getting his license suspended for "failure to appear" at court for the unpaid ticket. After paying the fine, his license was reinstated and everything was fine... except now, when we're confused as to whether that mark on his record would could as being "cited"...

We printed out a BMV report showing that his license is currently valid/not suspended. It shows the dates, the reason for the suspension, and the court case number. QUESTION: we plan to include the BMV print-out and a cover sheet with an explanation. Does anyone know if this situation requires "an original official statement by the arresting agency or applicant court confirming that no charges were filed" (N-400 Document Checklist, page 2)...?

We're unclear on whether the BMV print-out and explanation are enough, or whether we need an additional "original official statement". Any comments on this question would be appreciated!

3) AFFIDAVIT

As the ex, I plan to include a notarized Affidavit confirming that our marriage was entered into in good faith, and that I still wholeheartedly support his application for naturalization. That seemed like a smart thing to do... QUESTION: Has anyone done that before? Is it a good idea? Would it also help to get notarized statements from his current boss, other friends, etc? He's still basically like a member of the family, so my father wondered if a letter from another family member would help establish his good character, etc.

Thoughts.......?

Thanks for reading. It's been a long time since I posted here, so I truly appreciate it.

E

His is filing under the 5 year rule, so all he has to do is show he has been a LPR for the part 5 years,not taken any trips outside the US longer than 6 months during that time period, has spend at least 30 months in the US, has resided in the same USCIS district for the past three months, and explain the whole issue with his driver's license (may not even really need to do that, but I would just to be honest and just to cover his back side should the USCIS do a DMV check that contains more information then the one you did) since it was a minor traffic citation under $500 I am assuming, I would not get any more information other than to explain his failure to appear. He does not need to mention the marriage nor the divorce as he is filing because he has been a LPR for more than 5 years.

Dave

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Morocco
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Thanks for the reply! Definitely helps to have a second (and third, or fourth) person's take on these details before he mails the packet.

Me (Indiana) & Him (Fes, Morocco)

Summer 2002: Met in Morocco
Summer 2004: Began work on 129f; joined VJ rather than hiring a lawyer

I-129f Submission & Approval
Oct 19, 2004: I-129f to VSC
Oct 29: NOA2 online -- approved in 6 days, 10/23 to 10/29!

From NVC to Consulate & All the Way Home...
Nov 8, 2004: Case to Casablanca
Feb 23: Interview; CO said they'll call in 2-3 weeks
Mar 2: Casa calls; visa in hand the next day!
Mar 24: Arrival at JFK; over four hours waiting, but got an EAD
April 15, 2005: Married

AOS
Aug 10, 2005: AOS/EAD/AP to Chicago
Nov 12: AOS prints taken

2006, 2007, 2008, 2009:
EAD renewals often delayed. (?)
Info-Pass officials will say only that "other authorities" are handling our case; we eventually got our Senator's office involved
Spring 2009: A letter arrives, saying his 2005 fingerprints have expired and need to be updated. We head down to Indy and get his prints redone.
June 2009: We FINALLY get the AOS interview letter just shy of FOUR YEARS since submission of AOS application...

July 2009: after the interview, his 10-year Green Card arrives. Alle-freaking-luia.

N-400

Application in progress, 2015. We divorced in 2012 but are still good friends. E is helping organize H's application for Naturalization... fingers crossed!

***

How hard to pin down the truth, especially when one is obliged to see the world in slices; snapshots conceal as much as they make plain. (Rushdie, Shame)

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Dave is right above. Since he's applying on the 5 year rule he doesn't have to send in all bona fide proof of marriage like he would've done under the 3 year rule. The only little itchy thing is his traffic violation which isn't still a big deal since it was just a minor traffic violation. Most people go around these in 2 ways either by checking "no" since its under $500 with no DUI/DWI and take proof of payment/ disposition from court on day of interview and explain it to interview officer, or check "yes" and attach a statement + proof of payment/disposition as well on application. Option 2 gives peace of mind though for worriers and is advisable. With that he should be good provided he's met physical residence requirements.

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Adjustment of Status From F-1 Visa.

8/14/2014: Mailed AOS package: I-130, I-485, I-765.

8/18/2014: Accepted in Chicago. Transferred to Nebraska Service Center.

8/21/2014: Received NOA 1. I-130, I-485, I-765 in mail.

8/25/2014: Received biometrics in mail. Scheduled for 9/8/2014

9/24/2014: EAD approved. 36 Days!

10/01/2014: EAD mailed.

10/03/2014: Received EAD card.

10/14/2014: I-485 moved to testing and interview.

1/28/2015: Interview scheduled for 3/4/2015.

1/31/2015: Received interview notice.

3/4/2015: Interview completed and APPROVED!

3/5/2015: Welcome notice mailed and I-130 Approved.

3/10/2015: Welcome notice and I-130 approval notice received.

3/12/2015: Green card mailed.

3/14/2015: Green card delivered.

Removal of Conditions: 

12/14/2016: Mailed I-751.

12/19/2016: NOA issued.

01/26/2017: Biometrics.

05/03/2018: I-751 transfered to NBC.

02/27/2019: Joint I-751/N-400 Interview.

05/14/2019: I-751 APPROVED.

Naturalization:

12/02/2017: Mailed N 400 to Phoenix, AZ Lockbox. (I-751 still pending)

12/05/2017: Package delivered in Phoenix, AZ. Transferred to Harrisonburg Processing Center.

12/07/2017: Notice of action issued. (IOE)

12/26/2017: Biometrics.

01/23/2019: Interview Scheduled for 2/27/2019.

02/27/2019: Joint I-751/N-400 interview. N-400 recommended for approval.

05/16/2019: N-400 APPROVED! Placed in line for oath ceremony.

05/17/2019: Oath ceremony notice mailed.

06/12/2019: Swearing in Ceremony! Finally a U.S. citizen!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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That makes sense -- thanks, Starkilla09 :)

PS, does anyone know if the Form G-1145 "Request for e-Notification" can be used with N-400 apps? (That's a new option since last time he filed paperwork...)

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Me (Indiana) & Him (Fes, Morocco)

Summer 2002: Met in Morocco
Summer 2004: Began work on 129f; joined VJ rather than hiring a lawyer

I-129f Submission & Approval
Oct 19, 2004: I-129f to VSC
Oct 29: NOA2 online -- approved in 6 days, 10/23 to 10/29!

From NVC to Consulate & All the Way Home...
Nov 8, 2004: Case to Casablanca
Feb 23: Interview; CO said they'll call in 2-3 weeks
Mar 2: Casa calls; visa in hand the next day!
Mar 24: Arrival at JFK; over four hours waiting, but got an EAD
April 15, 2005: Married

AOS
Aug 10, 2005: AOS/EAD/AP to Chicago
Nov 12: AOS prints taken

2006, 2007, 2008, 2009:
EAD renewals often delayed. (?)
Info-Pass officials will say only that "other authorities" are handling our case; we eventually got our Senator's office involved
Spring 2009: A letter arrives, saying his 2005 fingerprints have expired and need to be updated. We head down to Indy and get his prints redone.
June 2009: We FINALLY get the AOS interview letter just shy of FOUR YEARS since submission of AOS application...

July 2009: after the interview, his 10-year Green Card arrives. Alle-freaking-luia.

N-400

Application in progress, 2015. We divorced in 2012 but are still good friends. E is helping organize H's application for Naturalization... fingers crossed!

***

How hard to pin down the truth, especially when one is obliged to see the world in slices; snapshots conceal as much as they make plain. (Rushdie, Shame)

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That makes sense -- thanks, Starkilla09 :)

PS, does anyone know if the Form G-1145 "Request for e-Notification" can be used with N-400 apps? (That's a new option since last time he filed paperwork...)

Yes it Absolutely can. You should use it.

Adjustment of Status From F-1 Visa.

8/14/2014: Mailed AOS package: I-130, I-485, I-765.

8/18/2014: Accepted in Chicago. Transferred to Nebraska Service Center.

8/21/2014: Received NOA 1. I-130, I-485, I-765 in mail.

8/25/2014: Received biometrics in mail. Scheduled for 9/8/2014

9/24/2014: EAD approved. 36 Days!

10/01/2014: EAD mailed.

10/03/2014: Received EAD card.

10/14/2014: I-485 moved to testing and interview.

1/28/2015: Interview scheduled for 3/4/2015.

1/31/2015: Received interview notice.

3/4/2015: Interview completed and APPROVED!

3/5/2015: Welcome notice mailed and I-130 Approved.

3/10/2015: Welcome notice and I-130 approval notice received.

3/12/2015: Green card mailed.

3/14/2015: Green card delivered.

Removal of Conditions: 

12/14/2016: Mailed I-751.

12/19/2016: NOA issued.

01/26/2017: Biometrics.

05/03/2018: I-751 transfered to NBC.

02/27/2019: Joint I-751/N-400 Interview.

05/14/2019: I-751 APPROVED.

Naturalization:

12/02/2017: Mailed N 400 to Phoenix, AZ Lockbox. (I-751 still pending)

12/05/2017: Package delivered in Phoenix, AZ. Transferred to Harrisonburg Processing Center.

12/07/2017: Notice of action issued. (IOE)

12/26/2017: Biometrics.

01/23/2019: Interview Scheduled for 2/27/2019.

02/27/2019: Joint I-751/N-400 interview. N-400 recommended for approval.

05/16/2019: N-400 APPROVED! Placed in line for oath ceremony.

05/17/2019: Oath ceremony notice mailed.

06/12/2019: Swearing in Ceremony! Finally a U.S. citizen!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Mailed everything yesterday with a G-1145 on the top...all instructions followed as carefully as possible. Will update our info here when (hopefully) there's good news... Thanks, all!

Me (Indiana) & Him (Fes, Morocco)

Summer 2002: Met in Morocco
Summer 2004: Began work on 129f; joined VJ rather than hiring a lawyer

I-129f Submission & Approval
Oct 19, 2004: I-129f to VSC
Oct 29: NOA2 online -- approved in 6 days, 10/23 to 10/29!

From NVC to Consulate & All the Way Home...
Nov 8, 2004: Case to Casablanca
Feb 23: Interview; CO said they'll call in 2-3 weeks
Mar 2: Casa calls; visa in hand the next day!
Mar 24: Arrival at JFK; over four hours waiting, but got an EAD
April 15, 2005: Married

AOS
Aug 10, 2005: AOS/EAD/AP to Chicago
Nov 12: AOS prints taken

2006, 2007, 2008, 2009:
EAD renewals often delayed. (?)
Info-Pass officials will say only that "other authorities" are handling our case; we eventually got our Senator's office involved
Spring 2009: A letter arrives, saying his 2005 fingerprints have expired and need to be updated. We head down to Indy and get his prints redone.
June 2009: We FINALLY get the AOS interview letter just shy of FOUR YEARS since submission of AOS application...

July 2009: after the interview, his 10-year Green Card arrives. Alle-freaking-luia.

N-400

Application in progress, 2015. We divorced in 2012 but are still good friends. E is helping organize H's application for Naturalization... fingers crossed!

***

How hard to pin down the truth, especially when one is obliged to see the world in slices; snapshots conceal as much as they make plain. (Rushdie, Shame)

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Good luck.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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