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http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/22/us/texas-sandra-bland-arrest/index.html

(CNN)Anger over Sandra Bland's death in a Texas jail has boiled over after newly released video showed what happened at the traffic stop that led to her arrest.

Now, many question whether she should have been arrested at all.

The dashcam video shows Texas state Trooper Brian Encinia pulling Bland over July 10 for allegedly failing to use her turn signal. What started as normal conversation gets testy after Encinia asks her to put out her cigarette.

"I am in my car. I don't have to put out my cigarette," Bland says.

"You can step on out now," Encinia replies.

Bland refuses to get out of her car, and the trooper opens her door and starts trying to pull her out of the vehicle.

What happens after that has ignited a debate about what the officer could have done versus what he should have done.

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"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

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The trooper is on desk duty for having violated the department's "courtesy" policy.

The suspect had an attitude and several Internet postings indicating attitude, anger, and depression.

Legal authorities say that, practically, it's probably better to comply and then take it up in court.

Several Fourth Amendment issues are probably in play.

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You act like and idiot you get arrested, Just the way it works with cops.

I am not a fan of them, but I also don't try to piss them off when they pull me over.

I am sure she hung herself, I really don't see why this is getting much attention..............

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You act like and idiot you get arrested, Just the way it works with cops.

I am not a fan of them, but I also don't try to piss them off when they pull me over.

I am sure she hung herself, I really don't see why this is getting much attention..............

Because you have zero empathy for certain type of people.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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You act like and idiot you get arrested, Just the way it works with cops.

I am not a fan of them, but I also don't try to piss them off when they pull me over.

I am sure she hung herself, I really don't see why this is getting much attention..............

First two statements arguably have merit.

Third is still under official investigation, without a ruling yet.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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You act like and idiot you get arrested, Just the way it works with cops.

I am not a fan of them, but I also don't try to piss them off when they pull me over.

I am sure she hung herself, I really don't see why this is getting much attention..............

Just because you act an idiot doesn't mean you deserve death. There are people who have killed and raped children who don't get the death penalty.

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Just because you act an idiot doesn't mean you deserve death. There are people who have killed and raped children who don't get the death penalty.

I'm not sure she was acting like an idiot. Not putting out your cig in your car isn't a valid reason for being arrested.

As for the comments, DLOE.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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Not saying she was. Only saying IF she was, it doesn't equal the death penalty.

I'm talking about the initial comment she was being an idiot.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Philippines
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Just because you act an idiot doesn't mean you deserve death. There are people who have killed and raped children who don't get the death penalty.

I am positive it will be determined she hung her self. No foul play.....

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I'm not sure she was acting like an idiot. Not putting out your cig in your car isn't a valid reason for being arrested.

As for the comments, DLOE.

I think it BS she was arrested. But don't try to be the hero when a cop pulls you over and he has a gun and the law on his side.

You eat your pride and follow his directions. IF you feel you have been done wrong, then once you get home you call Internal Affairs and talk to them. Or hire and attorney.

Apparently what she did made it legal for him to arrest her. The cops know the law and use it, average person on the street just needs to yes sir or no sir to cop and move on with your life........

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I think it BS she was arrested. But don't try to be the hero when a cop pulls you over and he has a gun and the law on his side.

You eat your pride and follow his directions. IF you feel you have been done wrong, then once you get home you call Internal Affairs and talk to them. Or hire and attorney.

Apparently what she did made it legal for him to arrest her. The cops know the law and use it, average person on the street just needs to yes sir or no sir to cop and move on with your life........

And yet there are plenty of videos of folks mouthing off and not being arrested and killed. Either it's all ok or none of it.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Iran
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It's a matter of police being on a power trip. They give an order and expect it to be complied with. Reminds me of Germany and other countries during World War II or the sheeples that live in the US today. There is a line to be drawn over what can be requested and what can't. If I'm in my car smoking a cig while you have me pulled over and you tell me to put it out I would probably do the same thing. Mainly because I have no ashtray and would have to throw it out the window. Wow, imagine the charges for that...littering, assault with a dangerous weapon, and who knows what else.

The officer should have just ignored her attitude and done his job.

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And yet there are plenty of videos of folks mouthing off and not being arrested and killed. Either it's all ok or none of it.

They were white. Geezz

 

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