I 864 question

[Lee&Ana 88]

I am a new forum member. I am in the very beginning of my visa journey. I met a very nice, hardworking pinay on a dating website. This forum is a great educational tool with a wealth of knowledge. I was reading about the affidavit of support form that has be signed and it scares the hell out of me. Being responsible financially for someone for 10 years no matter what happens is scary and has me questioning about whether it is worth the risk to immigrate someone here from another country. All responses and questions are welcone. Thanks in advance

[Hank_ 9,173]

I am a new forum member. I am in the very beginning of my visa journey. I met a very nice, hardworking pinay on a dating website. This forum is a great educational tool with a wealth of knowledge. I was reading about the affidavit of support form that has be signed and it scares the hell out of me. Being responsible financially for someone for 10 years no matter what happens is scary and has me questioning about whether it is worth the risk to immigrate someone here from another country. All responses and questions are welcone. Thanks in advance

hmm... marriage IS a lifetime commitment.

With the K-1 visa for the interview you complete the I-134. The I-864 comes later once in the USA, after married. (that lifetime thing )

[derrickmichille 55]

I am a new forum member. I am in the very beginning of my visa journey. I met a very nice, hardworking pinay on a dating website. This forum is a great educational tool with a wealth of knowledge. I was reading about the affidavit of support form that has be signed and it scares the hell out of me. Being responsible financially for someone for 10 years no matter what happens is scary and has me questioning about whether it is worth the risk to immigrate someone here from another country. All responses and questions are welcone. Thanks in advance

Well if you are going in to this journey with that kind of thinking, then it's best you don't start this journey at all.

When I met my wonderful and beautiful Michille, the last thing on my mind was having to support her for 10 years no matter what happens. I love her and yes I will support her not only for 10 years, but as long as we live.

A k1 visa is for marriage and marriage is a life time commitment. To many marriages fail because couples go into marriages with the wrong thinking. Is he going to cheat on me? Is she a gold digger? Then add in international long distance relationship and the all famous question. Is she or he only with me for a green card?

If you already have that mentality going in to this relationship?, then I suggest you either end the relationship or get to know this woman a hell of a lot more before you even consider a k1 visa and marriage.

I know what I am getting my self in because I made it my personal business to know Michille as much as I can. I have a 3 year old and there was no way I was going to introduce my son to any body no way in hell, he is too important to me and I love him too much to settle for anybody.

Get to know her ask her many questions, the difficult questions, spend as much time with her as much as possible. Marriage is a beautiful thing when the 2 people involved are on the same page.

Good luck to you and I wish you the best!!!

[Lee&Ana 88]

It is not that I shouldn't start the journey, it is more a matter of being on the hook for 10 years. Correct me if I am wrong, I am a total newbie, but if she runs off on you, you are responsible to support her for 125% of the poverty limit. If you get divorced, you are paying. If she sleeps with your best friend, you are paying. The only way you can get off the hook is when she becomes a citizen, dies, goes back to her country or gets 10 years of work credit. That is a huge liabilty and risk. It might not be something you have contemplated Derrick, but it exists. You bring a foreign national to this country and sign the I 864, you have signed a contract with the federal government to support that person. I am not talking about supporting her in terms of marriage, schooling etc. Your fiance/wife as loving, wonderful, sexy etc. etc. as she may be can leave you high and dry and you will be paying if she avails herself of government benefits.

Now, I may be putting the cart before the horse. I am at the very beginning stages of getting to know the filipina and planning a trip to the phils to be with her for a couple of weeks to determine our compatibilty in person. Depending on how the visit goes will determine if I proceed with the k1 visa. I don't care about gold digging or green card or any of that other nonsense. If she gets a green card and works and wants a divorce, no problem. If she runs off with another guy who has more money than me, fine. As long as i am not paying to "drive the car" without being able to drive the car".

[CowBoE 429]

I am a new forum member. I am in the very beginning of my visa journey. I met a very nice, hardworking pinay on a dating website. This forum is a great educational tool with a wealth of knowledge. I was reading about the affidavit of support form that has be signed and it scares the hell out of me. Being responsible financially for someone for 10 years no matter what happens is scary and has me questioning about whether it is worth the risk to immigrate someone here from another country. All responses and questions are welcone. Thanks in advance

It's actually very good thing to think deeply through before jumping in blindly.

Life is fully risk/reward decisions...

Is your reward worth the risk? That's your call.

[derrickmichille 55]

Yes, that is what I mean, go visit her spend as much time with her as you can. I went to the Philippines and spend 2 months with her and when I left back for the states, we skype every single day for 10 hours a day and we have been doing that ever since the first time we laid eyes on each other for 18 months.

Talk to her, tell her your concerns. Communication builds trust and trust builds relationships, get to know her, of course you will not know everything about her, but you will get a sense what she is all about and if she is the right woman for you or not.

And yes I have thought about all of those things in the beginning, what if she leaves me and I have to support her for 10 years, but once I got to know her and we started communicating and building our relationship, those thoughts went right out the window.

Take your time, take it slow. You will see a whole lot of members posting horror stories of their relationship and unfortunately a lot of the beneficiaries are from the Philippines.

So I say to you as a fella with a beautiful filipina, take your time get to know her and ask lots of questions and don't be afraid to tell her your concerns. I put Michille through a lot because I wanted to make sure she was the one for me and me for her and a wonderful beautiful romantic amazing loving relationship developed, because we both were patient honest trustworthy and most importantly we communicated, every day, that is the key.

Good luck to you both and I hope everything works out for the two of you!!!

And oh yeah!!! Welcome to VJ!!

Edited August 20, 2014 by derrickmichille

[Hank_ 9,173]

It is not that I shouldn't start the journey, it is more a matter of being on the hook for 10 years. Correct me if I am wrong, I am a total newbie, but if she runs off on you, you are responsible to support her for 125% of the poverty limit. If you get divorced, you are paying. If she sleeps with your best friend, you are paying. The only way you can get off the hook is when she becomes a citizen, dies, goes back to her country or gets 10 years of work credit. That is a huge liabilty and risk. It might not be something you have contemplated Derrick, but it exists. You bring a foreign national to this country and sign the I 864, you have signed a contract with the federal government to support that person. I am not talking about supporting her in terms of marriage, schooling etc. Your fiance/wife as loving, wonderful, sexy etc. etc. as she may be can leave you high and dry and you will be paying if she avails herself of government benefits.

Now, I may be putting the cart before the horse. I am at the very beginning stages of getting to know the filipina and planning a trip to the phils to be with her for a couple of weeks to determine our compatibilty in person. Depending on how the visit goes will determine if I proceed with the k1 visa. I don't care about gold digging or green card or any of that other nonsense. If she gets a green card and works and wants a divorce, no problem. If she runs off with another guy who has more money than me, fine. As long as i am not paying to "drive the car" without being able to drive the car".

Nope you are slightly off track there. The I-864 doesn't make you responsible for her support at 125% of the poverty level, the 125% figure is for qualifying as a sponsor. The I-864 is all about becoming a public charge and the government coming back to you for repayment of those expenses; welfare and that type of stuff.

Support is a divorce issue

[Greenbaum 12,258]

It is not that I shouldn't start the journey, it is more a matter of being on the hook for 10 years. Correct me if I am wrong, I am a total newbie, but if she runs off on you, you are responsible to support her for 125% of the poverty limit. If you get divorced, you are paying. If she sleeps with your best friend, you are paying. The only way you can get off the hook is when she becomes a citizen, dies, goes back to her country or gets 10 years of work credit. That is a huge liabilty and risk. It might not be something you have contemplated Derrick, but it exists. You bring a foreign national to this country and sign the I 864, you have signed a contract with the federal government to support that person. I am not talking about supporting her in terms of marriage, schooling etc. Your fiance/wife as loving, wonderful, sexy etc. etc. as she may be can leave you high and dry and you will be paying if she avails herself of government benefits.

Now, I may be putting the cart before the horse. I am at the very beginning stages of getting to know the filipina and planning a trip to the phils to be with her for a couple of weeks to determine our compatibilty in person. Depending on how the visit goes will determine if I proceed with the k1 visa. I don't care about gold digging or green card or any of that other nonsense. If she gets a green card and works and wants a divorce, no problem. If she runs off with another guy who has more money than me, fine. As long as i am not paying to "drive the car" without being able to drive the car".

There is an old saying that he who has the gold makes the rules. USCIS HAS the gold. You have only one choice here, find someone and be committed to each other for better or for worse or make a different choice and do nothing.

Many here are happy with their choice.

To my Pinay Honey, I know you are reading this and I want you to know that I love you!! :-)!

[Hank_ 9,173]

Good recovery! (did you feel her breath or see a shadow?)

[Greenbaum 12,258]

Good recovery! (did you feel her breath or see a shadow?)

Your funny. Lol She reads these threads and we discuss some topics. Always need to score extra points wink wink!! :-)

[Hank_ 9,173]

I was watching some old Howie Mandel on youtube.... really enjoy his "bobby" routine. Guess it wound my binder...