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ram-abb   0

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Hi guys, I am planning to apply for naturalization. I only remember the last 6 years of my travel history. I'm the permanent resident since 2003. I contacted my lawyer and I was told that I should bring my passports to help interview officer verify my prior trips. I have to pay $2000 to travel back to mu home country to bring my oldest passport since 2003.on the other hand, a friend of mine has sent me a link regarding recent entry-exit system that can verify applicants travel history for continuing permanent residency status or citizenship application therefore I dont need my passports. I'm little confused is there any body who have info regarding this issue?

Here is a copy of that info:

as outlined in the Action Plan, Canada and the United States has a new entry exit system which record exits from all land ports and this new agency will assist both countries to verify applicant's declared travel history before applying for any citizenship application or remaining permanent residency status.

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Jay2Pnoy   3

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Prior trips only during the last 5 years, anything prior to that is irrelevant. So if you remember travels within the last 6 yrs, well and good. Expired/Current passports will be asked as part of the requirements at the interview.

Yes, it's called US-VISIT Program. The government has full access to all of that however the burden of proof is on you that you continuously remained permanent resident pursuant to and did not violate the immigration and nationality act. If you can obtain all your passports, expired or not, bring them. I am certain that the officer will ask you for these.

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I-485 Adjustment of Status

10/21/2000 - Entry as B2 visa, changed status to F1

07/25/2005 - Mom filed F2B

03/01/2007 - Filed AOS to Permanent Resident under 245(i) by virtue of Section 203(h)(3) of the Child Status Protection Act of 2001; Public Law 107-208 (CSPA). Automatic Conversion of F2B petition and Retention of Priority date of an F4 petition as derivative beneficiary of dad filed in 1982 by his sister (hereinafter referred to as the "Automatic Conversion and Retention" clause of the CSPA). With the help of a lawyer from Los Angeles - who sent lots of briefs and case laws previously cited by the Board of Immigration Appeals, and Federal Courts to support our arguments.

03/04/2007 - Notice of Action for AOS Received

03/31/2007 - Biometrics Appointment

06/--/2007 - Interviewed in Chicago, District Adjudicator unable to approve AOS outright as more time was needed to review our case arguments, will notify us of the decision.

08/03/2007 - Decision on AOS - "DENIED" on the basis that F2B petition filed by mom was not current. USCIS misconstrued the basis for eligibility for AOS. (Copy of F2B petition mom filed only submitted as evidence that I sought to acquire status as a permanent resident within one year of the availability of the visa (F4 visa current on 12/2004), a requirement for seeking relief under CSPA and INA 203(h)(3))

08/28/2007 - Filed Request for Reconsideration of Decision on Adjustment of Status Application Based on Service (USCIS) Error, that filing for AOS eligibility was based on dad's 1982 petition, that CIS made an error in determining eligibility. (Motion to Reconsider on Form I-290B was filed without a fee, lawyer argued due to the fact that basis for AOS was erred by the Service)

01/24/2008 - Motion to Reconsider/Appeal Rejected by the USCIS District Adjudicator in Chicago due to non-payment of fee.

02/15/2008 - Re-submitted Motion to Reconsider Denial of AOS to Permanent Resident on Form I-290B, Notice of Appeal to the Administrative Appeals Office (AAO), Washington, DC.

02/19/2008 - USCIS received re-filed Motion to Reconsider with a fee of $585. Motion to Reconsider was later transferred to the Administrative Appeals Unit (AAU) in Chicago, IL.

07/28/2008 - Motion to Reconsider Denial of Adjustment on Form I-290B was reconsidered. USCIS Director in Chicago in its own motion submitted a Motion to Reopen, to reopen the case in its entirety. USCIS Director requested for 2nd interview and biometrics (after I sent tons of inquiries to the US Senators Barack Obama and Richard Durbin representing Illinois)

08/02/2008 - 2nd Biometrics Appointment

08/18/2008 - Dad filed another F2B petition requesting F2B conversion from F4 under CSPA and retention of his priority date of 1982. (CSPA decisions and case laws with BIA, Federal Courts and Court of Appeals for the 5th and 9th Circuits do not require that petitioners on later filed F2B petitions be the same as the beneficiary of the original petition, in my case dad was the beneficiary of an F4, but USCIS stance on conversion is that it does not apply to other immigration petitions except F2A and it should not be considered automatic in nature, therefore filing is necessary). A new F2B petition to the derivative beneficiary of the original petition would not have been necessary as afforded by the Act, but the USCIS does not conform to its automatic conversion clause as was on the Act.

09/05/2008 - Email Notice on Adjustment of Status "APPROVAL." (without 2nd interview as originally requested on CIS letter when decided to reopen the case). {Approved AOS based on a hard fought CSPA Automatic Conversion of my F4 derivative status to F2B and Retention of dad's Priority Date of 1982 (therefore making the F2B petition current having retained dad's PD). Law that the government decided to ignore for more than a decade now since the Act was enacted in 2001 signed by President Bush. (The lawyer who represented my case before the District Office Director in Chicago was from the same law firm in Los Angeles who sued the government, in a class action, due to its restrictive interpretation of CSPA denying benefits to those who are otherwise beneficiary of the law, those children of intending immigrants who aged out due to no fault of their own. The law firm was successful in overturning Federal Court ruling in Los Angeles when it appealed the class action to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, En Banc decision.) The government then appealed the decision En Banc of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals (which basically entitled "aged outs", or those derivative beneficiariess of any family based, employment based, diversity visa categories, who turned over 21 yrs of age, to join their parents upon receiving permanent residency status) to the Supreme Court, conjoined Federal Courts decisions out of the 2nd and 5th Circuit Courts of Appeals. PENDING before the Supreme Court, anticipating decision or ruling in 2014.}

09/10/2008 - Received Green Card

N-400 Application for Naturalization

09/05/2013 - Eligibility

06/08/2013 - Sent Form N-400 (90-day rule)

06/10/2013 - Priority Date

06/10/2013 - Check Cashed

07/03/2013 - Biometrics

08/05/2013 - In line for Interview

08/12/2013 - Email Notice N-400 scheduled for Interview

08/19/2013 - Interview Letter - received

09/17/2013 - Interview @ 0930am @ 101 West Congress Parkway, 2nd Floor Citizenship Office, Chicago, IL -- APPROVED!!!

09/18/2013 - Oath Letter - mailed from Chicago USCIS Office

09/19/2013 - Oath Letter - mailed from the National Benefits Center

09/20/2013 - Oath Letter - from Chicago USCIS Office received

09/21/2013 - Oath Letter - from the National Benefits Center received

2 Oath Ceremony Appointment Letters

09/27/2013 - Oath Ceremony

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English Muffin   59

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All passports (current and expired) are required for the interview. You don't need to spend $2000 to travel to your home country to get it...just get someone to mail it to you.

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Udella&Wiz   325

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All passports (current and expired) are required for the interview. You don't need to spend $2000 to travel to your home country to get it...just get someone to mail it to you.

Is this new? I was never required to show mine or asked to bring them. I simply listed my trips during the alloted time period. Passports are not always stamped either.

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Wiz(USC) and Udella(Cdn & USC!)

Naturalization

02/22/11 - Filed

02/28/11 - NOA

03/28/11 - FP

06/17/11 - status change - scheduled for interview

06/20?/11 - received physical interview letter

07/13/11 - Interview in Fairfax,VA - easiest 10 minutes of my life

07/19/11 - Oath ceremony in Fairfax, VA

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Removal of Conditions

12/1/09 - received at VSC

12/2/09 - NOA's for self and daughter

01/12/10 - Biometrics completed

03/15/10 - 10 Green Card Received - self and daughter

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Jamericanlove   31

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Is this new? I was never required to show mine or asked to bring them. I simply listed my trips during the alloted time period. Passports are not always stamped either.

I've always heard that they should be brought to the interview. Whether the interviewing officer wants to see them or not is up to their discretion though.

NATURALIZATION
07-03-2013: Eligible to file
07-22-2013: Application sent (Delivered: 07-24-13)
08-05-2013: NOA1 received (Priority date: 07-24-13, Check cashed: 07-29-13)
08-22-2013: Biometrics (Received: 08-06-13, Walk-in: 08-08-13)
09-03-2013: Inline for interview (Yellow letter received: 10-23-13)
11-04-2013: Interview scheduled (Received: 11-09-13)
12-12-2013: Interview (Approved)
01-03-2014: Oath ceremony, passport application and passport received

DONE!

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English Muffin   59

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My interview letter included a list of things I needed to bring...all passports was on that list. The IO asked for them and looked at them.

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Udella&Wiz   325

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I've always heard that they should be brought to the interview. Whether the interviewing officer wants to see them or not is up to their discretion though.

Interesting - it may depend on country of origin then because mine was never stamped when I just go back to Canada (and therefore they didn't ask for it)...I suppose it might have if I'd gone elsewhere

Wiz(USC) and Udella(Cdn & USC!)

Naturalization

02/22/11 - Filed

02/28/11 - NOA

03/28/11 - FP

06/17/11 - status change - scheduled for interview

06/20?/11 - received physical interview letter

07/13/11 - Interview in Fairfax,VA - easiest 10 minutes of my life

07/19/11 - Oath ceremony in Fairfax, VA

******************

Removal of Conditions

12/1/09 - received at VSC

12/2/09 - NOA's for self and daughter

01/12/10 - Biometrics completed

03/15/10 - 10 Green Card Received - self and daughter

******************

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Jamericanlove   31

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Interesting - it may depend on country of origin then because mine was never stamped when I just go back to Canada (and therefore they didn't ask for it)...I suppose it might have if I'd gone elsewhere

This makes sense. For everyone else, to be on the safe side I'd bring the passports. Better to have it and not want it than want it and not have it.

NATURALIZATION
07-03-2013: Eligible to file
07-22-2013: Application sent (Delivered: 07-24-13)
08-05-2013: NOA1 received (Priority date: 07-24-13, Check cashed: 07-29-13)
08-22-2013: Biometrics (Received: 08-06-13, Walk-in: 08-08-13)
09-03-2013: Inline for interview (Yellow letter received: 10-23-13)
11-04-2013: Interview scheduled (Received: 11-09-13)
12-12-2013: Interview (Approved)
01-03-2014: Oath ceremony, passport application and passport received

DONE!

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Given that they don't always stamp Canadian passports, how do they know you've not crossed the border? The wife hasn't went back in the the last 11 years (money, dead CA passport, and generally not wanting to roll the dice on not getting back into the US) and we're trying to figure out how to prove a zero.

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English Muffin   59

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Given that they don't always stamp Canadian passports, how do they know you've not crossed the border? The wife hasn't went back in the the last 11 years (money, dead CA passport, and generally not wanting to roll the dice on not getting back into the US) and we're trying to figure out how to prove a zero.

They ask you if you've been. You'll tell them you haven't.

It's impossible to prove a negative and they won't expect you to.

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Hi guys, sorry for delay. I was out of town.thank you very much for your useful info. I saw some threads in here regarding people experience during naturalization IV. some mentioned that IO had US-VISIT records readily available at interview to verify trips. here is the link http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/454764-chicago-il-n-400-naturalization-experiences/

My friends tried to send my old ones but Unfortunately FEDEX and DHL refused to accept themt due to security reasons

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