Troopers can arrest illegal immigrants

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

state troopers are not federal agents. immigration is a federal jurisdiction.

ergo, state troopers cannot arrest someone for violating immigration laws.

Daniel

:energetic:

Yes.. but state law enforcement officers can be deputized to enforce federal laws...

to sound like pedroh......PWNED

I agree. That argument doesn't hold water.

Next thing you know, state and local cops can't touch anyone that produces counterfeit bills.

The currency is a federal issue, after all...

i could be wrong. maybe i watch too many csi/law n order spin offs ( ), but seems to me that ther are definite jursidictions. any help by other agencies i am sure have to be arranged and approved beforehand.

any vjer in the know?

Daniel

:energetic:

[Marilyn. 340]

my hubby and his family are Mexican... the majority of them speak English with Spanish being their second language.... they seem to all have adjusted very well into the American culture...

my hubby can barely speak or understand Spanish but he knows enough to get by when he needs to....

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

state troopers are not federal agents. immigration is a federal jurisdiction.

ergo, state troopers cannot arrest someone for violating immigration laws.

Daniel

:energetic:

Yes.. but state law enforcement officers can be deputized to enforce federal laws...

to sound like pedroh......PWNED

I agree. That argument doesn't hold water.

Next thing you know, state and local cops can't touch anyone that produces counterfeit bills.

The currency is a federal issue, after all...

i could be wrong. maybe i watch too many csi/law n order spin offs ( ), but seems to me that ther are definite jursidictions. any help by other agencies i am sure have to be arranged and approved beforehand.

any vjer in the know?

Daniel

:energetic:

Jurisdictions, sure. Counterfeiting money is a federal crime. As is a bank robbery. But you better believe that local and state cops are not going to stand around with their thumbs up their arses and wait for the feds to respond if they come across either one of those.

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

state troopers are not federal agents. immigration is a federal jurisdiction.

ergo, state troopers cannot arrest someone for violating immigration laws.

Daniel

:energetic:

Yes.. but state law enforcement officers can be deputized to enforce federal laws...

to sound like pedroh......PWNED

I agree. That argument doesn't hold water.

Next thing you know, state and local cops can't touch anyone that produces counterfeit bills.

The currency is a federal issue, after all...

i could be wrong. maybe i watch too many csi/law n order spin offs ( ), but seems to me that ther are definite jursidictions. any help by other agencies i am sure have to be arranged and approved beforehand.

any vjer in the know?

Daniel

:energetic:

Jurisdictions, sure. Counterfeiting money is a federal crime. As is a bank robbery. But you better believe that local and state cops are not going to stand around with their thumbs up their arses and wait for the feds to respond if they come across either one of those.

excellent points! bank robbery,,, just curious, what kind of crime is that?

i am thnking a lot of crime is comvered one way or another via local/state laws. cops may be authorized to enforce up to state laws. if, for some reason they suspect conterfeiting, they prolly call the feds. but if they bust someone say for spousal abuse and happento see a machine spitting out dollars at the guys house, i am sure there is no trouble throwing those charges over to the feds but still only arrested for spousal abuse.

i am sure(hope!) they have these protocols worked out. like you said, they aren't gonna sit there with their thumbs up their arses. but getting back to the immigration question, again, the cop would arrest an illegal alien say for dui, but not for being an illegal alien.

Daniel

:energetic:

[Ban Hammer 14,269]

state troopers are not federal agents. immigration is a federal jurisdiction.

ergo, state troopers cannot arrest someone for violating immigration laws.

Daniel

:energetic:

Yes.. but state law enforcement officers can be deputized to enforce federal laws...

to sound like pedroh......PWNED

I agree. That argument doesn't hold water.

Next thing you know, state and local cops can't touch anyone that produces counterfeit bills.

The currency is a federal issue, after all...

i could be wrong. maybe i watch too many csi/law n order spin offs ( ), but seems to me that ther are definite jursidictions. any help by other agencies i am sure have to be arranged and approved beforehand.

any vjer in the know?

Daniel

:energetic:

the answer by zyggy should stand out - as i understand it he's a former border patrol agent

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

state troopers are not federal agents. immigration is a federal jurisdiction.

ergo, state troopers cannot arrest someone for violating immigration laws.

Daniel

:energetic:

Yes.. but state law enforcement officers can be deputized to enforce federal laws...

ooh a source! ok, does that mean that they are like always deputized? or is it a case by case basis? thus you would need saome kind of fed agentdoing the deputizing?

(thanks charles for alerting me of zyggy's post)

Daniel

:energetic:

[Ban Hammer 14,269]

state troopers are not federal agents. immigration is a federal jurisdiction.

ergo, state troopers cannot arrest someone for violating immigration laws.

Daniel

:energetic:

Yes.. but state law enforcement officers can be deputized to enforce federal laws...

ooh a source! ok, does that mean that they are like always deputized? or is it a case by case basis? thus you would need saome kind of fed agentdoing the deputizing?

(thanks charles for alerting me of zyggy's post)

Daniel

:energetic:

they wave a magic wand that wards off the aclu

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

state troopers are not federal agents. immigration is a federal jurisdiction.

ergo, state troopers cannot arrest someone for violating immigration laws.

Daniel

:energetic:

Yes.. but state law enforcement officers can be deputized to enforce federal laws...

ooh a source! ok, does that mean that they are like always deputized? or is it a case by case basis? thus you would need saome kind of fed agentdoing the deputizing?

(thanks charles for alerting me of zyggy's post)

Daniel

:energetic:

they wave a magic wand that wards off the aclu

are they? and is it on a case by case basis?

i've read of cities prohibiting their officers from doing "immigration" policing. so, i am curious how that would work. i suspect those kinds of things are really a jurisdiction thing.

Daniel

:energetic:

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

but getting back to the immigration question, again, the cop would arrest an illegal alien say for dui, but not for being an illegal alien.

Daniel

:energetic:

I sure hope they would. I don't see why they wouldn't.

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

but getting back to the immigration question, again, the cop would arrest an illegal alien say for dui, but not for being an illegal alien.

Daniel

:energetic:

I sure hope they would. I don't see why they wouldn't.

maybe i am missin your point et. are you saying you want a local po to arrest a person for being an illegal alien?

as if he sees someone walking along the sidewalk and he suspects this person to be an illegal alien, to pull up and arrest him on grounds of being suspected illegal alien?

Daniel

:energetic:

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

but getting back to the immigration question, again, the cop would arrest an illegal alien say for dui, but not for being an illegal alien.

Daniel

:energetic:

I sure hope they would. I don't see why they wouldn't.

maybe i am missin your point et. are you saying you want a local cop to arrest a person for being an illegal alien?

as if he sees someone walking along the sidewalk and he suspects this person to be an illegal alien, to pull up and arrest him on grounds of being suspected illegal alien?

Daniel

:energetic:

Yeah. The illegal alien is breaking the law walking down that street, is (s)he not? What makes him or her better than the shoplifter or drunk driver that the cop will no doubt arrest on the accusation of having shoplifted or operated a motor vehicle under the influence?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

state troopers are not federal agents. immigration is a federal jurisdiction.

ergo, state troopers cannot arrest someone for violating immigration laws.

Daniel

:energetic:

Yes.. but state law enforcement officers can be deputized to enforce federal laws...

ooh a source! ok, does that mean that they are like always deputized? or is it a case by case basis? thus you would need saome kind of fed agentdoing the deputizing?

(thanks charles for alerting me of zyggy's post)

Daniel

:energetic:

Check it out for yourself.

Law EnforcementDelegation of Immigration AuthoritySection 287(g) Immigration and Nationality Act A Law Enforcement Partnership

Feds say state can bust illegal immigrants

287g training from ICE sought by many U.S. jurisdictions

[Henia 11]

Woooooooa I better lay low then ( Just joking)

[choji 0]

but getting back to the immigration question, again, the cop would arrest an illegal alien say for dui, but not for being an illegal alien.

Daniel

:energetic:

I sure hope they would. I don't see why they wouldn't.

maybe i am missin your point et. are you saying you want a local cop to arrest a person for being an illegal alien?

as if he sees someone walking along the sidewalk and he suspects this person to be an illegal alien, to pull up and arrest him on grounds of being suspected illegal alien?

Daniel

:energetic:

Yeah. The illegal alien is breaking the law walking down that street, is (s)he not? What makes him or her better than the shoplifter or drunk driver that the cop will no doubt arrest on the accusation of having shoplifted or operated a motor vehicle under the influence?

Arrest somebody on suspicion of being an illegal alien?

How would that suspicion be aroused?

Color of skin?

Way of dressing?

What if the person with the "different" color of skin and the "different" way of dressing is a bona fide US citizen?

Then what?

"Oops, sorry, US citizen, but you did look suspicious to me. Now toddle off and keep smiling. Your being harassed was for the greater good of the community."

[pedroh 21]

but getting back to the immigration question, again, the cop would arrest an illegal alien say for dui, but not for being an illegal alien.

Daniel

:energetic:

I sure hope they would. I don't see why they wouldn't.

maybe i am missin your point et. are you saying you want a local cop to arrest a person for being an illegal alien?

as if he sees someone walking along the sidewalk and he suspects this person to be an illegal alien, to pull up and arrest him on grounds of being suspected illegal alien?

Daniel

:energetic:

Yeah. The illegal alien is breaking the law walking down that street, is (s)he not? What makes him or her better than the shoplifter or drunk driver that the cop will no doubt arrest on the accusation of having shoplifted or operated a motor vehicle under the influence?

how would the cop know the 'suspect' is an illegal alien? because he looks funny or talks with an accent? or because he looks mexican, which would give a 'basis' since 1000% of the illegals are from Mexico?