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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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I was married in 2012. My spouse didn't get visa approved until January 15, 2013. Will be entering US next month for first time.

Can I file my 2012 returns as "joint return"?

Timeline

USCIS

04/20/2012: I-130 Sent

04/23/2012: NOA1 Priority Date

04/30/2012: I-797 Rec'd Hard copy

11/01/2012: NOA2 E-mail & Text

11/05/2012: Received NOA2 hardcopy

NVC

11/06/2012: NVC received case(Checked by calling)

11/06/2012: Got Case number/IIN from NVC (Over the phone)

11/07/2012: Provided Petitioner/Beneficiary email addresses to NVC

11/07/2012: Sent DS-3032 (EMail version)

11/08/2012: Received email from NVC (AOS Invoice and DS-3032)

11/08/2012: Paid AOS Bill(Status: InProcess)

11/08/2012: Beneficiary emailed Signed/Scanned copy of DS-3032

11/13/2012: AOS Bill Status Changed to PAID

11/13/2012: Sent AOS Package

11/15/2012: NVC Received AOS Packet

11/20/2012: Beneficiary received email from NVC that DS-3032 is accepted

11/21/2012: Received email from NVC about IV Invoice

11/21/2012: Paid IV Fee (Status: InProcess)

11/23/2012: IV Bill Status Changed to PAID)

11/23/2012: Sent IV Package

11/27/2012: NVC Received IV Packet

11/29/2012: NVC Accepted AOS

12/11/2012: NVC Accepted DS-230 partI & II

12/12/2012: Received Interview Date

12/12/2012: Case complete at NVC and Transferred to India

CONSULATE

12/18/2012: Embassy received

12/20/2012: Medical

01/15/2013: Interview

01/18/2013: Visa

03/07/2013: POE

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I was married in 2012. My spouse didn't get visa approved until January 15, 2013. Will be entering US next month for first time.

Can I file my 2012 returns as "joint return"?

Yes, because you were married in 2012. Doesn't matter when the spouse gets the visa or immigrates. What matters is the date on the marriage certificate.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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I was married in 2012. My spouse didn't get visa approved until January 15, 2013. Will be entering US next month for first time.

Can I file my 2012 returns as "joint return"?

to file joint return he has to be present in USA for more then 6 months. also you will need his SSN or tax id in order to file.

so not for 2012.

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to file joint return he has to be present in USA for more then 6 months. also you will need his SSN or tax id in order to file.

so not for 2012.

This is not right. As the spouse of a USC, a foreigner can elect to be treated as a resident for tax purposes even if they have never set foot in the USA. Rin and I filed married filing jointly for tax year 2006 (married October 2006) even though her first time in the USA was in April 2007.

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11/15/2006 - NOA1 Receipt for 129F

02/12/2007 - I-130 and I-129F approved!

04/17/2007 - Interview - visa approved!

04/18/2007 - POE LAX - Finally in the USA!!!

04/19/2007 - WE ARE FINALLY HOME!!!

09/20/2007 - Sent Packet 3 for K-4 Visas (follow to join for children)

10/02/2007 - K-4 Interviews - approved

10/12/2007 - Everyone back to USA!

AOS

06/20/2008 - Mailed I-485, I-765 (plus I-130 for children)

06/27/2008 - NOA1 for I-485, I-765, and I-130s

07/16/2008 - Biometrics appointment

08/28/2008 - EAD cards received

11/20/2008 - AOS Interviews - approved

Citizenship

08/22/2011 - Mailed N-400

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to file joint return he has to be present in USA for more then 6 months. also you will need his SSN or tax id in order to file.

so not for 2012.

The foreign spouse does NOT have to be present in the USA for any sort of time period. Back in 2011, while I was still in Canada waiting for my visa, my husband filed our 2010 taxes as joint (since we were married in 2010) and I applied for the ITIN. We had no problems of course.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Thailand
Timeline

K-3

11/15/2006 - NOA1 Receipt for 129F

02/12/2007 - I-130 and I-129F approved!

04/17/2007 - Interview - visa approved!

04/18/2007 - POE LAX - Finally in the USA!!!

04/19/2007 - WE ARE FINALLY HOME!!!

09/20/2007 - Sent Packet 3 for K-4 Visas (follow to join for children)

10/02/2007 - K-4 Interviews - approved

10/12/2007 - Everyone back to USA!

AOS

06/20/2008 - Mailed I-485, I-765 (plus I-130 for children)

06/27/2008 - NOA1 for I-485, I-765, and I-130s

07/16/2008 - Biometrics appointment

08/28/2008 - EAD cards received

11/20/2008 - AOS Interviews - approved

Citizenship

08/22/2011 - Mailed N-400

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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The foreign spouse does NOT have to be present in the USA for any sort of time period. Back in 2011, while I was still in Canada waiting for my visa, my husband filed our 2010 taxes as joint (since we were married in 2010) and I applied for the ITIN. We had no problems of course.

Thanks saylin, very good to know, i have similar case i got married in march but my wife is coming in Jan. so i can also file joint then.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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From IRS Publication 54,

http://www.irs.gov/p...ublink100047359

"Nonresident Alien Spouse Treated as a Resident If, at the end of your tax year, you are married and one spouse is a U.S. citizen or a resident alien and the other is a nonresident alien, you can choose to treat the nonresident as a U.S. resident. This includes situations in which one of you is a nonresident alien at the beginning of the tax year and a resident alien at the end of the year and the other is a nonresident alien at the end of the year.

If you make this choice, the following two rules apply.

  • You and your spouse are treated, for income tax purposes, as residents for all tax years that the choice is in effect.
  • You must file a joint income tax return for the year you make the choice.

This means that neither of you can claim under any tax treaty not to be a U.S. resident for a tax year for which the choice is in effect.

You can file joint or separate returns in years after the year in which you make the choice. "

My only doubt. What if "spouse" is working in the foreign country (until the day he or she catches a flight to US).

When we file taxes in US, do we need to show that income as well?

I wonder how that is calculated.

Timeline

USCIS

04/20/2012: I-130 Sent

04/23/2012: NOA1 Priority Date

04/30/2012: I-797 Rec'd Hard copy

11/01/2012: NOA2 E-mail & Text

11/05/2012: Received NOA2 hardcopy

NVC

11/06/2012: NVC received case(Checked by calling)

11/06/2012: Got Case number/IIN from NVC (Over the phone)

11/07/2012: Provided Petitioner/Beneficiary email addresses to NVC

11/07/2012: Sent DS-3032 (EMail version)

11/08/2012: Received email from NVC (AOS Invoice and DS-3032)

11/08/2012: Paid AOS Bill(Status: InProcess)

11/08/2012: Beneficiary emailed Signed/Scanned copy of DS-3032

11/13/2012: AOS Bill Status Changed to PAID

11/13/2012: Sent AOS Package

11/15/2012: NVC Received AOS Packet

11/20/2012: Beneficiary received email from NVC that DS-3032 is accepted

11/21/2012: Received email from NVC about IV Invoice

11/21/2012: Paid IV Fee (Status: InProcess)

11/23/2012: IV Bill Status Changed to PAID)

11/23/2012: Sent IV Package

11/27/2012: NVC Received IV Packet

11/29/2012: NVC Accepted AOS

12/11/2012: NVC Accepted DS-230 partI & II

12/12/2012: Received Interview Date

12/12/2012: Case complete at NVC and Transferred to India

CONSULATE

12/18/2012: Embassy received

12/20/2012: Medical

01/15/2013: Interview

01/18/2013: Visa

03/07/2013: POE

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In this situation it is married filing separate unless the couple elect for the non-resident spouse to be treated as a US resident for the whole tax year. That means reporting all of their income on the US tax return for the whole year. They may qualify for the foreign earned income exemption on that income but it still needs to be reported. Any non earned income such as investment income will not be exempt and will be subject to US tax with credit for any foreign tax paid on that income.

If you do not make the election then it will be married filing separate with the US spouse being unable to take the standard deduction because the non-resident spouse cannot. That leaves the US spouse only being able to itemize deductions and also may lose tax credits because of the married filing status.

They only way to work out which is the best option in your circumstances is to crunch the numbers both ways. If necessary get professional tax advice as it can get complicated. This will also apply to the year in which the non US spouse arrives in the US.

My time line

CSC

Nov 7, 2004 - First met in Chagford, Devon, UK

Sep 1, 2007 - Married in Chagford

Oct 5, 2007 - Sent I-130 to CSC

Oct 9, 2007 - Received by CSC

Jan 14, 2008 - Rejected by Chicago, wrong date on check 😞

Jan 15, 2008 - Sent I-130 back to Chicago with correctly dated check 🙂

Jan 16, 2008 - Received by Chicago

Feb 14, 2008 - NOA1

Apr 28, 2008 - NOA2

May 6, 2008 - NVC assign case number

May 12, 2008 - DS-3032 and AOS bill generated

May 18, 2008 - DS-3032 request emailed by me

May 22, 2008 - AOS bill paid by check

May 27, 2008 - DS-3032 accepted by NVC

Jun 2, 2008 - IV bill generated

Jun 9, 2008 - IV bill received

Jun 16, 2008 - IV bill paid by check

Jun 21, 2008 - I-864 package received

Jun 26, 2008 - I-864 sent to NVC

Jun 30, 2008 - DS-230 generated by NVC

Jul 11, 2008 - DS-230 received

Jul 26, 2008 - DS-230 sent to NVC

Aug 4, 2008 - DS-230 received by NVC

Aug 12, 2008 - Case completed

Aug 14, 2008 - Papers sent to London Embassy

Oct 20, 2008 - Medical in London

Oct 27, 2008 - Interview in London (was originally scheduled for Sep 23)

Oct 28, 2008 - Visa received

Nov 22, 2008 - Arrived in USA at Phoenix.... Yeah!!!

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