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I live in America and my wife lives in the Philippines, i cannot be there for our babies Certificate of Birth Abroad appointment because i have work, so she will have to take our child alone. I'm wondering If they are going to request a DNA test because that would take alot time and i don't want my wife's VISA Expiring b4 our child can get her passport and be allowed to come to America. Plus i don't have the money to keep sending my wife to Manila because she lives in Southern Mindinao.

Do you think they will still approve her if im not there if my wife has:

1. Every requirement requested on the Certificate of Birth Abroad Checklist

2. Pics of us together as a couple from throughout our time together in the Philippines.(We were married b4 she got pregnant)

3. Her approved CR1 visa

4. Her CFO seminar stamp on her passport

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I live in America and my wife lives in the Philippines, i cannot be there for our babies Certificate of Birth Abroad appointment because i have work, so she will have to take our child alone. I'm wondering If they are going to request a DNA test because that would take alot time and i don't want my wife's VISA Expiring b4 our child can get her passport and be allowed to come to America. Plus i don't have the money to keep sending my wife to Manila because she lives in Southern Mindinao.

Do you think they will still approve her if im not there if my wife has:

1. Every requirement requested on the Certificate of Birth Abroad Checklist

2. Pics of us together as a couple from throughout our time together in the Philippines.(We were married b4 she got pregnant)

3. Her approved CR1 visa

4. Her CFO seminar stamp on her passport

Yes. They will approve. I myself did the whole CRBA process while my BF-the USC, is not physically in the PI. We were not asked for a DNA test. Just need to make sure that all documents that needs to be notarized are notarized. Bring originals AND photocopies of the documents needed. for the passport, make sure to bring the statement of consent form - notarized.

Added info: have your wife apply for a PI passport when she's in Manila - to document the dual citizenship and to "get away" with the exit fee and all other "penalties".

Also, your wife can apply for your baby's SSN.

Turn arount time for the CRBA and PI Passport - ~3-4 weeks

PI Passport - (if rush) ~2 weeks

SSN - ~1 week

good luck!

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Yes. They will approve. I myself did the whole CRBA process while my BF-the USC, is not physically in the PI. We were not asked for a DNA test. Just need to make sure that all documents that needs to be notarized are notarized. Bring originals AND photocopies of the documents needed. for the passport, make sure to bring the statement of consent form - notarized.

Added info: have your wife apply for a PI passport when she's in Manila - to document the dual citizenship and to "get away" with the exit fee and all other "penalties".

Also, your wife can apply for your baby's SSN.

Turn arount time for the CRBA and PI Passport - ~3-4 weeks

PI Passport - (if rush) ~2 weeks

SSN - ~1 week

good luck!

thank you so much for your answer is there any more opinions?

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I live in America and my wife lives in the Philippines, i cannot be there for our babies Certificate of Birth Abroad appointment because i have work, so she will have to take our child alone. I'm wondering If they are going to request a DNA test because that would take alot time and i don't want my wife's VISA Expiring b4 our child can get her passport and be allowed to come to America. Plus i don't have the money to keep sending my wife to Manila because she lives in Southern Mindinao.

Do you think they will still approve her if im not there if my wife has:

1. Every requirement requested on the Certificate of Birth Abroad Checklist

2. Pics of us together as a couple from throughout our time together in the Philippines.(We were married b4 she got pregnant)

3. Her approved CR1 visa

4. Her CFO seminar stamp on her passport

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What part of Mindano? I am in a similar boat as you.


15 Mar 2012---Started talking online
25 Mar 2012---Texting and twice a day conversations
28 Mar 2012---Exclusive with each other
26 Apr 2012---Engaged
01 Jul 2012---Married in our hearts
24 Dec 2012---Visited for Christmas and New Year's In Zamboanga City

10 Jul 2013 -- Vacationed in Davao City, K1 application transffered

16 Aug 2013 -- NOA2!!!!!!!!

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Very close to the coast of southern mindinao

My fiancee live in Zamboanga City


15 Mar 2012---Started talking online
25 Mar 2012---Texting and twice a day conversations
28 Mar 2012---Exclusive with each other
26 Apr 2012---Engaged
01 Jul 2012---Married in our hearts
24 Dec 2012---Visited for Christmas and New Year's In Zamboanga City

10 Jul 2013 -- Vacationed in Davao City, K1 application transffered

16 Aug 2013 -- NOA2!!!!!!!!

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The fact that you were married before helps. Rather than pics, show proof you were there around the time of conception (creidt card statements, boarding passes etc).


Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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The fact that you were married before helps. Rather than pics, show proof you were there around the time of conception (creidt card statements, boarding passes etc).

I actually do have some of those, ill send them i guess:)

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I have two friends both doing that right now. They were both married first and are both living in the Phils. They are not in any visa processes and they are both being required to take a DNA test..


27 January 2012: Mailed I-129F

03 February 2012: NOA1( e-mail & Text)

03 February 2012: Check Cashed

NO RFE'S

22 June 2012 : NOA2 (e-mail & Text)

16 July 2012: Manila Case Number(by phone)

17 July 2012: Interview paid at BPI

19 July 2012: Set interview for Mid-Aug

23-24 July 2012: Medical St. Lukes(passed)

24 July 2012: CFO Seminar(had to go next morning for landline #)- PASSED

02 Aug 2012: Received e-mail from USEM our case is there.

15 Aug 2012: Interview at USEM - APPROVED

13 SEP 2012: POE Minneapolis, MN

27 OCT 2012: Married

19 NOV 2012: AOS package sent

05 DEC 2012: NOA's I-765, I-131, I-485

14 DEC 2012: Biometrics appointment finished(Walk-in..Was scheduled Jan 04 2013)

02 FEB 2013: I-131 and I-765 Approved

07 FEB 2013: USPS Picked up the combo-card

11 FEB 2013: Received Combo-card

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DNA test may be required upon the discretion of the Consular Officer reviewing your CRBA application.

If the CO has doubts regarding your paternity, then the CO has the right to demand a DNA test between you and your child.

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I live in America and my wife lives in the Philippines, i cannot be there for our babies Certificate of Birth Abroad appointment because i have work, so she will have to take our child alone. I'm wondering If they are going to request a DNA test because that would take alot time and i don't want my wife's VISA Expiring b4 our child can get her passport and be allowed to come to America. Plus i don't have the money to keep sending my wife to Manila because she lives in Southern Mindinao.

Do you think they will still approve her if im not there if my wife has:

1. Every requirement requested on the Certificate of Birth Abroad Checklist

2. Pics of us together as a couple from throughout our time together in the Philippines.(We were married b4 she got pregnant)

3. Her approved CR1 visa

4. Her CFO seminar stamp on her passport

I just went through getting a CRBA myself in December. The best advice I can give if you want to avoid the DNA test is bring as much evidence of your relationship as possible. It may have helped that I was also present for the interview. Either way I will list everything I provided. I would also like to point out that conception occurred before my marriage(but after engagement), but due to my compelling evidence I was not ordered for a DNA test.

I provided for evidence:

Receipt of engagement ring

Passport stamps showing I had been in the country a significant time before and after conception(since you cant be there have her bring a photocopy of the pages showing this)

Medical records documenting the estimated date of conception(ultrasound pictures from 10 weeks, 5months, and 7 months all giving the same estimate within a few days and maternity records)

A series of approx. 10 pictures of me and my wife in various places which took place before conception(placed in chronological order). Im not sure he even looked at them.

I presented everything in a very organized manner. I honestly thing the biggest factor is going to be how comfortable and relaxed she seems to the CO. If she seems really nervous they start suspecting something may not be accurate. She will also want to be sure that she brings evidence that you qualify to give the baby citizenship. I didnt have any of this with me(didnt expect this when I packed my bags to go see my baby girl born) and MOST of my interview was him confirming I had resided at least 5 years within the US. I over-provided information to every inquiry which reassures him it is genuine. He actually cut me off at one point and said "ok ok thats good enough". Now the guy I had was serious about his interview but they are people too and a few simple injections of humor really opened him up and he was more personable. At the end of the interview he just told me "ok its all set" and at that point I had to ask "so is there going to be a need for a DNA test?" and he just told me "no I believe you are the father". So I'd conclude that its really what you say and how you present the answer that it has to really convince him. Be sure your wife appears confident, not fidgeting or nervous.

If you plan to apply for the passport at the time the CRBA is applied, if you are not present she will need a notarized "Statement of consent or special circumstances: issuance of a passport to a minor under age 16" DS-3053. Without permission from both parents, they will NOT process the passport application(I had this happen to me because while my wife was present she doesnt have an ID that the embassy would acknowledge). I signed the CRBA, but the passport still not done until I go back in feb.

If they do order the DNA test, she and the baby could head to st. lukes and get swabbed while still in town. You could then go to an approved facility near you(they have a list somewhere I dont recall where though) to be swabbed and then they'll put the results all together in st. lukes. I know this takes time but if they order the DNA test nothing else can be done at that point.

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Yes. They will approve. I myself did the whole CRBA process while my BF-the USC, is not physically in the PI. We were not asked for a DNA test. Just need to make sure that all documents that needs to be notarized are notarized. Bring originals AND photocopies of the documents needed. for the passport, make sure to bring the statement of consent form - notarized.

Added info: have your wife apply for a PI passport when she's in Manila - to document the dual citizenship and to "get away" with the exit fee and all other "penalties".

Also, your wife can apply for your baby's SSN.

Turn arount time for the CRBA and PI Passport - ~3-4 weeks

PI Passport - (if rush) ~2 weeks

SSN - ~1 week

good luck!

Hello and great information as my fiance will have to our appt on 2/15 without me. what was the total cost for both passports and ss#? thanks for your help


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2011-01-30 First trip to Manila (work related)
2011-02-18 Second trip to Manila (work related)
2011-03-08 Met Jenny in Manila
2011-03-29 Third trip to Manila (work and Jenny related)
2011-04-17 Started relationship
2011-05-11 Fourth trip to Manila (work and Jenny related)
2011-06-19 Found out I would be a father for the first time
2011-08-18 Fifth trip to Manila (work and Jenny related)
2011-11-08 Sixth trip to Manila (work and Jenny related)
2011-11-08 Engaged to Jenny
2012-01-11 Seventh trip to Manila (work and Jenny related)
2012-02-09 Eighth trip to Manila (Birth of son)
2012-02-16 Son Dustin Neal born healthy in Manila
2012-09-24 Ninth trip to Manila (work and Jenny/Dustin related)

2013-06-18 Tenth trip to Manila (K1 - Interview!!!!)

2013-10-21 Eleventh trip to Manila (bringing Jenny/Dustin back)
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2012-07-31 Sent I-129F package
2012-08-03 NOA1 Vermont Service Center delivered
2012-08-07 NOA1 Hard-copy received
2013-02-15 CBRA Interview for son Dustin

2013-02-25 NOA2 Email of Approval
2013-03-01 NOA2 Hard-copy received

2013-04-15 CBRA Approved

2013-06-14 Medical PASSED!!

2013-06-26 Interview Scheduled

2013-07-11 VISA IN HAND!!!

2013-10-31 POE - Atlanta

2014-01-18 MARRIED

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I live in America and my wife lives in the Philippines, i cannot be there for our babies Certificate of Birth Abroad appointment because i have work, so she will have to take our child alone. I'm wondering If they are going to request a DNA test because that would take alot time and i don't want my wife's VISA Expiring b4 our child can get her passport and be allowed to come to America. Plus i don't have the money to keep sending my wife to Manila because she lives in Southern Mindinao.

Do you think they will still approve her if im not there if my wife has:

1. Every requirement requested on the Certificate of Birth Abroad Checklist

2. Pics of us together as a couple from throughout our time together in the Philippines.(We were married b4 she got pregnant)

3. Her approved CR1 visa

4. Her CFO seminar stamp on her passport

I went home to give birth in the Philippines and did my son's CRBA without my husband's presence. I got approved and no DNA.

As long as the consul is satisfied with all the documents presented then there will be no DNA required.

Medical records and other pre=natal proofs is very important

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I went home to give birth in the Philippines and did my son's CRBA without my husband's presence. I got approved and no DNA.

As long as the consul is satisfied with all the documents presented then there will be no DNA required.

Medical records and other pre=natal proofs is very important

I have all the requirements and tons of other documentation plus my baby is white just like me, much lighter than her mom. I thought the fact that she just got her cr1 visa would prove for sure that we were married and had a relationship.

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