Certificate of Birth Abroad

[Regan L 1]

I live in America and my wife lives in the Philippines, i cannot be there for our babies Certificate of Birth Abroad appointment because i have work, so she will have to take our child alone. I'm wondering If they are going to request a DNA test because that would take alot time and i don't want my wife's VISA Expiring b4 our child can get her passport and be allowed to come to America. Plus i don't have the money to keep sending my wife to Manila because she lives in Southern Mindinao.

Do you think they will still approve her if im not there if my wife has:

1. Every requirement requested on the Certificate of Birth Abroad Checklist

2. Pics of us together as a couple from throughout our time together in the Philippines.(We were married b4 she got pregnant)

3. Her approved CR1 visa

4. Her CFO seminar stamp on her passport

[mrsSpitze 9]

I live in America and my wife lives in the Philippines, i cannot be there for our babies Certificate of Birth Abroad appointment because i have work, so she will have to take our child alone. I'm wondering If they are going to request a DNA test because that would take alot time and i don't want my wife's VISA Expiring b4 our child can get her passport and be allowed to come to America. Plus i don't have the money to keep sending my wife to Manila because she lives in Southern Mindinao.

Do you think they will still approve her if im not there if my wife has:

1. Every requirement requested on the Certificate of Birth Abroad Checklist

2. Pics of us together as a couple from throughout our time together in the Philippines.(We were married b4 she got pregnant)

3. Her approved CR1 visa

4. Her CFO seminar stamp on her passport

Yes. They will approve. I myself did the whole CRBA process while my BF-the USC, is not physically in the PI. We were not asked for a DNA test. Just need to make sure that all documents that needs to be notarized are notarized. Bring originals AND photocopies of the documents needed. for the passport, make sure to bring the statement of consent form - notarized.

Added info: have your wife apply for a PI passport when she's in Manila - to document the dual citizenship and to "get away" with the exit fee and all other "penalties".

Also, your wife can apply for your baby's SSN.

Turn arount time for the CRBA and PI Passport - ~3-4 weeks

PI Passport - (if rush) ~2 weeks

SSN - ~1 week

good luck!

[Regan L 1]

Yes. They will approve. I myself did the whole CRBA process while my BF-the USC, is not physically in the PI. We were not asked for a DNA test. Just need to make sure that all documents that needs to be notarized are notarized. Bring originals AND photocopies of the documents needed. for the passport, make sure to bring the statement of consent form - notarized.

Added info: have your wife apply for a PI passport when she's in Manila - to document the dual citizenship and to "get away" with the exit fee and all other "penalties".

Also, your wife can apply for your baby's SSN.

Turn arount time for the CRBA and PI Passport - ~3-4 weeks

PI Passport - (if rush) ~2 weeks

SSN - ~1 week

good luck!

thank you so much for your answer is there any more opinions?

[Regan L 1]

I live in America and my wife lives in the Philippines, i cannot be there for our babies Certificate of Birth Abroad appointment because i have work, so she will have to take our child alone. I'm wondering If they are going to request a DNA test because that would take alot time and i don't want my wife's VISA Expiring b4 our child can get her passport and be allowed to come to America. Plus i don't have the money to keep sending my wife to Manila because she lives in Southern Mindinao.

Do you think they will still approve her if im not there if my wife has:

1. Every requirement requested on the Certificate of Birth Abroad Checklist

2. Pics of us together as a couple from throughout our time together in the Philippines.(We were married b4 she got pregnant)

3. Her approved CR1 visa

4. Her CFO seminar stamp on her passport

[James&Edlie 2]

What part of Mindano? I am in a similar boat as you.

[Regan L 1]

What part of Mindano? I am in a similar boat as you.

Very close to the coast of southern mindinao

[James&Edlie 2]

Very close to the coast of southern mindinao

My fiancee live in Zamboanga City

[Penguin_ie 5,985]

The fact that you were married before helps. Rather than pics, show proof you were there around the time of conception (creidt card statements, boarding passes etc).

[Regan L 1]

The fact that you were married before helps. Rather than pics, show proof you were there around the time of conception (creidt card statements, boarding passes etc).

I actually do have some of those, ill send them i guess:)

[actob99 156]

I have two friends both doing that right now. They were both married first and are both living in the Phils. They are not in any visa processes and they are both being required to take a DNA test..

[apple21 953]

DNA test may be required upon the discretion of the Consular Officer reviewing your CRBA application.

If the CO has doubts regarding your paternity, then the CO has the right to demand a DNA test between you and your child.

[Bob & Joana 2]

I live in America and my wife lives in the Philippines, i cannot be there for our babies Certificate of Birth Abroad appointment because i have work, so she will have to take our child alone. I'm wondering If they are going to request a DNA test because that would take alot time and i don't want my wife's VISA Expiring b4 our child can get her passport and be allowed to come to America. Plus i don't have the money to keep sending my wife to Manila because she lives in Southern Mindinao.

Do you think they will still approve her if im not there if my wife has:

1. Every requirement requested on the Certificate of Birth Abroad Checklist

2. Pics of us together as a couple from throughout our time together in the Philippines.(We were married b4 she got pregnant)

3. Her approved CR1 visa

4. Her CFO seminar stamp on her passport

I just went through getting a CRBA myself in December. The best advice I can give if you want to avoid the DNA test is bring as much evidence of your relationship as possible. It may have helped that I was also present for the interview. Either way I will list everything I provided. I would also like to point out that conception occurred before my marriage(but after engagement), but due to my compelling evidence I was not ordered for a DNA test.

I provided for evidence:

Receipt of engagement ring

Passport stamps showing I had been in the country a significant time before and after conception(since you cant be there have her bring a photocopy of the pages showing this)

Medical records documenting the estimated date of conception(ultrasound pictures from 10 weeks, 5months, and 7 months all giving the same estimate within a few days and maternity records)

A series of approx. 10 pictures of me and my wife in various places which took place before conception(placed in chronological order). Im not sure he even looked at them.

I presented everything in a very organized manner. I honestly thing the biggest factor is going to be how comfortable and relaxed she seems to the CO. If she seems really nervous they start suspecting something may not be accurate. She will also want to be sure that she brings evidence that you qualify to give the baby citizenship. I didnt have any of this with me(didnt expect this when I packed my bags to go see my baby girl born) and MOST of my interview was him confirming I had resided at least 5 years within the US. I over-provided information to every inquiry which reassures him it is genuine. He actually cut me off at one point and said "ok ok thats good enough". Now the guy I had was serious about his interview but they are people too and a few simple injections of humor really opened him up and he was more personable. At the end of the interview he just told me "ok its all set" and at that point I had to ask "so is there going to be a need for a DNA test?" and he just told me "no I believe you are the father". So I'd conclude that its really what you say and how you present the answer that it has to really convince him. Be sure your wife appears confident, not fidgeting or nervous.

If you plan to apply for the passport at the time the CRBA is applied, if you are not present she will need a notarized "Statement of consent or special circumstances: issuance of a passport to a minor under age 16" DS-3053. Without permission from both parents, they will NOT process the passport application(I had this happen to me because while my wife was present she doesnt have an ID that the embassy would acknowledge). I signed the CRBA, but the passport still not done until I go back in feb.

If they do order the DNA test, she and the baby could head to st. lukes and get swabbed while still in town. You could then go to an approved facility near you(they have a list somewhere I dont recall where though) to be swabbed and then they'll put the results all together in st. lukes. I know this takes time but if they order the DNA test nothing else can be done at that point.

Edited January 23, 2013 by BobJac

[Justud 42]

Yes. They will approve. I myself did the whole CRBA process while my BF-the USC, is not physically in the PI. We were not asked for a DNA test. Just need to make sure that all documents that needs to be notarized are notarized. Bring originals AND photocopies of the documents needed. for the passport, make sure to bring the statement of consent form - notarized.

Added info: have your wife apply for a PI passport when she's in Manila - to document the dual citizenship and to "get away" with the exit fee and all other "penalties".

Also, your wife can apply for your baby's SSN.

Turn arount time for the CRBA and PI Passport - ~3-4 weeks

PI Passport - (if rush) ~2 weeks

SSN - ~1 week

good luck!

Hello and great information as my fiance will have to our appt on 2/15 without me. what was the total cost for both passports and ss#? thanks for your help

[danver 15]

I live in America and my wife lives in the Philippines, i cannot be there for our babies Certificate of Birth Abroad appointment because i have work, so she will have to take our child alone. I'm wondering If they are going to request a DNA test because that would take alot time and i don't want my wife's VISA Expiring b4 our child can get her passport and be allowed to come to America. Plus i don't have the money to keep sending my wife to Manila because she lives in Southern Mindinao.

Do you think they will still approve her if im not there if my wife has:

1. Every requirement requested on the Certificate of Birth Abroad Checklist

2. Pics of us together as a couple from throughout our time together in the Philippines.(We were married b4 she got pregnant)

3. Her approved CR1 visa

4. Her CFO seminar stamp on her passport

I went home to give birth in the Philippines and did my son's CRBA without my husband's presence. I got approved and no DNA.

As long as the consul is satisfied with all the documents presented then there will be no DNA required.

Medical records and other pre=natal proofs is very important

[Regan L 1]

I went home to give birth in the Philippines and did my son's CRBA without my husband's presence. I got approved and no DNA.

As long as the consul is satisfied with all the documents presented then there will be no DNA required.

Medical records and other pre=natal proofs is very important

I have all the requirements and tons of other documentation plus my baby is white just like me, much lighter than her mom. I thought the fact that she just got her cr1 visa would prove for sure that we were married and had a relationship.