Language Course

[franki 0]

Hi All,

I am doing inquiry on behalf a friend who has been accepted in a language school here in the U.S. - Got his I-20 and ready to go to the embassy and make an appointment for his interveiew. He has been told few scary stories about interview and questions....

His concern are,

what if they ask why am I doing English language course (its a six months course) in U.S, why not in England - Australia, they have courses there too ?

He has his far relative in U.S. who will provide him accommodation and help him financially also he intends to finish this course and pass his TOEL test in U.S and start this particular degree in U.S.

He has his parents back home - He has his job active in his home country - he can get a letter from his work that he is still employed, these are the facts that he has intentions to return home.

So please let me know what are the other potential questions would they ask?

Thanks.

[canadian_wife 1,823]

He can expect

Why the US?

Why that particular course?

How are you going to pay?

How can you prove to us you won't stay?

good luck

[Harsh_77 718]

Yep as CW said they can definately ask why US and nowhere else.

Why not attend some institution in their home country.... most non English speaking have some or other kinda institute who would teach English.

Depends on the duration of his studies, if its long time than his existing job would not matter as his employeer is not going to keep that position open forever.

[franki 0]

Yep as CW said they can definately ask why US and nowhere else.

Why not attend some institution in their home country.... most non English speaking have some or other kinda institute who would teach English.

Depends on the duration of his studies, if its long time than his existing job would not matter as his employeer is not going to keep that position open forever.

Thanks I will let him know ...... Yes there are English courses in his home country but he has plans to study and pass his English proficiency test which is not available in his home country, Yes there are ''others'' .

[Harsh_77 718]

Thanks I will let him know ...... Yes there are English courses in his home country but he has plans to study and pass his English proficiency test which is not available in his home country, Yes there are ''others'' .

If you talking about English Proficiency test... (TOFEL) I could be wrong but that is available in lot of countries.

For some school even before one is admitted an international student is required to take a TOFEL and GRE or any such other test in home country.

[Darnell 8,478]

this bothers me:

also he intends to finish this course and pass his TOEL test in U.S and start this particular degree in U.S.

and should bother a Consular Officer, as well.

[Noah Lot 391]

Another avenue that will be explored by the CO is this: just exactly who is the sponsor or person who appears to be assisting this visa request, and will this ESL 'opportunity' be instead a thinly veiled attempt to go around the K1 process...(something that happens frequently when somebody decides to drop whatever they are doing for months and months, just to study English, with no real clear plans afterwards nor a believeable reason why this study must take place now...(as well as why ESL cannot be studied in Australia)...

[franki 0]

this bothers me:

also he intends to finish this course and pass his TOEL test in U.S and start this particular degree in U.S.

and should bother a Consular Officer, as well.

Then what these language courses are for ? This person is in no shape or form has intentions to stay in U.S. have all family members back home, well established. He has intentions to get his language evaluation result and get on with his studies either in U.S. or India or somewhere with English language spoken degree. Then what should he say why he is doing this course in U.S?

He has his job active that can give him a reference that he is going for a break to study for a specific course, Is that not enough tie? he has the enire family back home, is that not a tie? he is only 24 single, what eals can he prove ?

Thanks.

Edited December 17, 2012 by franki

[Darnell 8,478]

franki - reread my reply, dissect at and .

that 'and' is from you, not me.

[franki 0]

franki - reread my reply, dissect at and .

that 'and' is from you, not me.

Darnell,

I am not disagreeing with you. Indeed it is a clear question, why U.S. that you are choosing to do this course why not from Shakespeare's land or any other English spoken land? That is why I am here to ask how should he establish that he just want to do this brief course in U.S. since he wanted to continue his education. what other GOOD explanation can he present to convince the officer that yes this is his intention?

thanks

[Harsh_77 718]

Then what these language courses are for ? This person is in no shape or form has intentions to stay in U.S. have all family members back home, well established. He has intentions to get his language evaluation result and get on with his studies either in U.S. or India or somewhere with English language spoken degree. Then what should he say why he is doing this course in U.S?

He has his job active that can give him a reference that he is going for a break to study for a specific course, Is that not enough tie? he has the enire family back home, is that not a tie? he is only 24 single, what eals can he prove ?

Thanks.

Now you mentioned India, until now you had not posted where your home country was.

For India English is a very common language and prominent language being a British Colony, coming from India to learn English would be the case without any merits.

TOFEL tests are performed in India practically every major city in India has TOFEL center.

http://www.ets.org/Media/Tests/TOEFL/tclists/IBT_i.html

[franki 0]

Now you mentioned India, until now you had not posted where your home country was.

For India English is a very common language and prominent language being a British Colony, coming from India to learn English would be the case without any merits.

TOFEL tests are performed in India practically every major city in India has TOFEL center.

http://www.ets.org/Media/Tests/TOEFL/tclists/IBT_i.html

I just gave an example of India . He is not from India and he does not live in India.... I believe he is trying to add an additional course of study on his resume as well as this program/degree that he is interested to do is only available in an English spoken land, which requires English proficiency cert. His intentions are not U.S. only.

[Harsh_77 718]

I just gave an example of India . He is not from India and he does not live in India.... I believe he is trying to add an additional course of study on his resume as well as this program/degree that he is interested to do is only available in an English spoken land, which requires English proficiency cert. His intentions are not U.S. only.

OK... but you can check out that link most countries have TOFEL available and most CO would want to know why your friend does not want to do the English Course in home country and why he insists on coming to US for that similar course.

[Darnell 8,478]

franki -

I am gonna defer to Mustafa..

Please hit him up at http://www.visajourney.com/forums/user/79557-mustafa1232/

and suggest you tell all to him.

Good Luck !

[franki 0]

OK... but you can check out that link most countries have TOFEL available and most CO would want to know why your friend does not want to do the English Course in home country and why he insists on coming to US for that similar course.

I do have the same question as well as he, What if the office asks this question. His goal is to have some type of cert adding on his resume and if he gets a chance to pursue his road and complete his degree (again within a college that offers his specific program). I think we are going round the circle with 1 question (why USA)? I mentioned his goal, You are saying that is not enough, then why they have English language courses/colleges in U.S. and why they are accepting students from all over the world. I personally asked a college and they said we have 1000s of foreign students, then what will be a potential answer that they gave to the CO to grant F1 visa? The college folk that I asked the question said ''we have students from different ages starting 18 and over... Then how can they all prove... There should be some type of satisfactory answer that the CO are allowing all these people to come in and study. Maybe having passed an English proficiency test in U.S.A have positive impacts on some ones future - an additional point on a resume for job? - an additional point to get accepted into a better college? There must be an answer?

thanks