K-i denied in Nigeria

[OlasKween 3]

join suit..??????????? they have not met - there's nothingu to come on!!

Ricardo, the suit is for anyone denied a K-1 visa that should have been approved or re-evaluated. We certainly do qualify, because we were issued a waiver of meeting by the USCIS due to medical issues. I talked to Brent Renison yesterday.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

@Kelvin

It can take months before they send it back. Lagos likes to sit on the petition until they are sure it is expired.

What happens next depends on your servie center. If you are a Californian you will most likely wait about 180 days and get a notice that your petitions validity has expired and you are free to file without prejudice. They never review your case and if you don't know the exact problem you are on your own next time overcoming it. You are also stuck paying the fees all over and filing another petition.

If you are a vermonter , you will wait about the same time usually but they usually review the case and you may recieve a reaffirmation or a NOID.

No matter what route you take the approval rate at the second time goes up. There have been a few double denials over the years and honestly they aren't always wrong in denying the visa. We didn't wait for California to declare the first petition dead but submitted a new K1, front loaded and covering the "issue" of him not knowing the details of classified work. It was approved and we are almost ready to gather the evidence for citizenship.

@OlasKween

If you have to proof that you couldn't travel to meet, did you include the proof he couldn't come to meet you ? Did he try for a visa to the USA and Cananda at least ? Immigration isn't cheap and if you can afford the beginning steps it gets more expensive later on. Unless you have family members that can lend you money you are on your own. You don't find people that think bringing foreigners into the US is a worthy cause.

[OlasKween 3]

@Kelvin

It can take months before they send it back. Lagos likes to sit on the petition until they are sure it is expired.

What happens next depends on your servie center. If you are a Californian you will most likely wait about 180 days and get a notice that your petitions validity has expired and you are free to file without prejudice. They never review your case and if you don't know the exact problem you are on your own next time overcoming it. You are also stuck paying the fees all over and filing another petition.

If you are a vermonter , you will wait about the same time usually but they usually review the case and you may recieve a reaffirmation or a NOID.

No matter what route you take the approval rate at the second time goes up. There have been a few double denials over the years and honestly they aren't always wrong in denying the visa. We didn't wait for California to declare the first petition dead but submitted a new K1, front loaded and covering the "issue" of him not knowing the details of classified work. It was approved and we are almost ready to gather the evidence for citizenship.

@OlasKween

If you have to proof that you couldn't travel to meet, did you include the proof he couldn't come to meet you ? Did he try for a visa to the USA and Cananda at least ? Immigration isn't cheap and if you can afford the beginning steps it gets more expensive later on. Unless you have family members that can lend you money you are on your own. You don't find people that think bringing foreigners into the US is a worthy cause.

We filed the petition and were denied. They will not let him come to visit now, because if we are to file a visitors visa, the will deny it because of the denied K-1. They will deny any petition we file, except for a spouse, or K-1, and those are not guaranteed.

Edited November 9, 2012 by OlasKween

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

join suit..??????????? they have not met - there's nothingu to come on!!

Read the post correctly before you respond.

[RICARDO4EVA2 199]

hey you,

I read the post. don't try my English

OlasKween- big up. Thank you.

[dwheels76 5,484]

We filed the petition and were denied. They will not let him come to visit now, because if we are to file a visitors visa, the will deny it because of the denied K-1. They will deny any petition we file, except for a spouse, or K-1, and those are not guaranteed.

Honestly even without ever applying for a Tourist or student visa to USA he would have 99% been denied. Unless you are very very rich and can show some pretty strong ties to Nigeria Nigerians are denied these Visas.

Although you had a waiver and USCIS approved you have to show he can't travel to you at all. There's Mexico, Canada, and all the other places NigeriaorBust mentioned.

You are dealing with a high fraud country and not meeting well I have yet to see EVER that approved. Sorry for all you are going through. Please hurry and meet and refile preferable as a married couple not K1..

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

I agree with NigeriaorBust in her comment about the expenses. The only option is to borrow from family/friends, make a loan,

make an equity loan if you own a home or try hard to get a better paying or second job. That is it.

This journey eats money like a pit. Most of us here see our money pissed in the wind and we wonder where to take the next

amount from to get this done. It won't let up. When he is here you will also have double the expenses. Many could have bought

themselves a Benz with all the money spend.

Glad you talked to Brent. Very nice guy to talk to and I admire him that he is not doing it for money but principle.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

hey you,

I read the post. don't try my English

OlasKween- big up. Thank you.

My name is Ebunoluwa not hey you. I didn't "try" your English. If you had read the post in depth you would have understood that

her petition was approved with a waiver and therefore she does qualify. You gave out incorrect information and I corrected it.

[OlasKween 3]

I really appreciate all the information,encouragement and kindness you have all shown me. Part of the pain in this process, is feeling so alone- feeling like no one understands. Most of the time I feel like I am screaming in the wind, and no one cares. Thank you all soooo much. We wont ever give up, and I know it is going to be a long hard road, it already has been for the last 3 years. We will continue to fight to be together, and help change the system. I wish that people would realize that in this computer and digitized world, it is so easy to meet people from other countries. It shouldn't be this hard to be with the one you love. THANK YOU AGAIN TO ALL OF YOU. AND BEST OF LUCK!!!! KEEP UP THE FIGHT!!!

[RICARDO4EVA2 199]

My name is Ebunoluwa not hey you. I didn't "try" your English. If you had read the post in depth you would have understood that

her petition was approved with a waiver and therefore she does qualify. You gave out incorrect information and I corrected it.

Listen up.. im done with you after this.. i didnt give out ANY INFORMATION.. where in

"join suit..??????????? they have not met - there's nothing come on!!"

do you see where info was given..? I wasn't talking about a waiver - but a specifically about waivers for not meeting. It's simple.

Enjoy your day and drop it

Edited November 9, 2012 by RICARDO4EVA2

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

They waived the meeting requirement but they did not waive the bonefide relationship requirement. You could have a ton of email and not have a bonefide relationship, romance scam victims are a prime example of this, they have a inbox stuff with loving communications, they have sent tons of money to support their "loved one" but there is no valid relationship. What the issue is is that the bar of proving bonefide has been raised and they apparently failed to meet that bar. Starting for the denial , and knowing that not meeting is part of the key and that she can't fly you try to find the next step. It is trying to meet. Can he get to a place she can get to. Chances are no , but they have to try. It is far cheaper to apply for 3-4 visas( US , Canada , Mexico) and be denied than one plane ticket to Nigeria. The money thing is another hurdle they have to overcome. So far I have probably spent over 50k in costs ( travel , petition/visa fees, insurance, clothing,phones,car ) and we still have the last petition ahead in his journey. If they can't afford the upfront costs they may not pass the unlikely to become a public burden hurdle and their progress will be halted again.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

i went to the embassy yesterday ,i was denied the visa....

Consulate:This is the letter they gave to me ..This Office regrets to inform you that it is uable to issue a visa to you because you have failed to convince the consular officer that your relationship with the petitioner is Bona fide ..You case will remain pending under section 221(g) of the immigration and nationality act while it is return to the national visa center for their review ..When their review is complete,they will contact the petitioner who will then have the opportunity to respond.. If the case is reaffirmed,we will contact you to set up a new appiontment date..If the case is not reaffirmed,the petitioner will be notified and the national visa center will close the case

Please do anyone know how long it will take for the case to be forwarded back to National Visa Center,and do we have to continue with the K1 visa or my finacee can come down for the marriage here or she can come for the second time..Please somebody should advice please...Thanks

My petition took a little over 2 months to be entered into the USCIS system after return.Read the dates in my signature.

Lagos lets it sit there for longer usually but not always.

Get your senator involved to get the diplomatic pouch number to track your case so it won't get "lost."

Let your senator request a.s.a.p.another interview while the case is still there( snowball chance in hell but you can try.)

Monitor with your senator when your case reaches NVC(it goes back via NVC) and then back to USCIS and get the dates.

Important for future correspondence.

If your service center is Vermont you have a chance to be reaffirmed if you are proactive and on top of your case.

If your service center is California it will be allowed to sit in storage and be forced to expire and denied.

If you receive a NOID/NOIR letter from Vermont you MUST respond irregardless if you have by then refiled or not. Very important.

You can refile a K1 or marry and file a CR1 at anytime.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Listen up.. im done with you after this.. i didnt give out ANY INFORMATION.. where in

do you see where info was given..? I wasn't talking about a waiver - but a specifically about waivers for not meeting. It's simple.

Enjoy your day and drop it

Yes, I see where she was given a medical waiver and was USCIS approved in her first post which qualifies her for the lawsuit which you said it didn't. Period. Your comment in my quote has nothing to do with the issue. Had you talked about a waiver you would have understood the issue. Take your own advice and drop it.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

They waived the meeting requirement but they did not waive the bonefide relationship requirement. You could have a ton of email and not have a bonefide relationship, romance scam victims are a prime example of this, they have a inbox stuff with loving communications, they have sent tons of money to support their "loved one" but there is no valid relationship. What the issue is is that the bar of proving bonefide has been raised and they apparently failed to meet that bar. Starting for the denial , and knowing that not meeting is part of the key and that she can't fly you try to find the next step. It is trying to meet. Can he get to a place she can get to. Chances are no , but they have to try. It is far cheaper to apply for 3-4 visas( US , Canada , Mexico) and be denied than one plane ticket to Nigeria. The money thing is another hurdle they have to overcome. So far I have probably spent over 50k in costs ( travel , petition/visa fees, insurance, clothing,phones,car ) and we still have the last petition ahead in his journey. If they can't afford the upfront costs they may not pass the unlikely to become a public burden hurdle and their progress will be halted again.

I agree.

[OlasKween 3]

They waived the meeting requirement but they did not waive the bonefide relationship requirement. You could have a ton of email and not have a bonefide relationship, romance scam victims are a prime example of this, they have a inbox stuff with loving communications, they have sent tons of money to support their "loved one" but there is no valid relationship. What the issue is is that the bar of proving bonefide has been raised and they apparently failed to meet that bar. Starting for the denial , and knowing that not meeting is part of the key and that she can't fly you try to find the next step. It is trying to meet. Can he get to a place she can get to. Chances are no , but they have to try. It is far cheaper to apply for 3-4 visas( US , Canada , Mexico) and be denied than one plane ticket to Nigeria. The money thing is another hurdle they have to overcome. So far I have probably spent over 50k in costs ( travel , petition/visa fees, insurance, clothing,phones,car ) and we still have the last petition ahead in his journey. If they can't afford the upfront costs they may not pass the unlikely to become a public burden hurdle and their progress will be halted again.

We also used his cousin, who lives in the USA, as a sponsor. He works in a nuclear medicine facility in Texas. His income is very lucrative (but he is verrry tight with his money, understandably) The point is, we jumped every hoop they asked us to. Clean bill of health, spotless police record, proof of financial responsibility, all fees paid, received a wavier of meeting, notarized letters from our families, I could go on and on. The system is BROKEN. yes, we will continue down this road, and play this stupid game, because we have no choice. We are dedicated to each other. But it makes me sick that my own country is doing this. Land of the free, home of the brave- a country built on the idea of immigration. This system is a JOKE.