Back from Kazan

[slim 1,533]

Because if he was paying he'd be asking us what the going rate was!

[Kotenochek 0]

Because if he was paying he'd be asking us what the going rate was!

That will be 2nd trip to Kazan" ))

Edited September 12, 2008 by Kotenochek

[slim 1,533]

For anyoone interested in going somewhere and getting a good "going rate" Russia is going to be higher when you factor in costs associated with the trip. Ukraine is still relatively high although probably cheaper for a "Russian" girl. If you're looking for the best deal, Prague is probably the way to go. And don't forget, beer is cheaper than bottled water!

[akdiver 3]

For anyoone interested in going somewhere and getting a good "going rate" Russia is going to be higher when you factor in costs associated with the trip. Ukraine is still relatively high although probably cheaper for a "Russian" girl. If you're looking for the best deal, Prague is probably the way to go. And don't forget, beer is cheaper than bottled water!

Well, if you just want cheap, finding some local Russian prostitution near where you live is going to be cheaper than marrying one from overseas.

[Brad and Vika 129]

For anyoone interested in going somewhere and getting a good "going rate" Russia is going to be higher when you factor in costs associated with the trip. Ukraine is still relatively high although probably cheaper for a "Russian" girl. If you're looking for the best deal, Prague is probably the way to go. And don't forget, beer is cheaper than bottled water!

Well, if you just want cheap, finding some local Russian prostitution near where you live is going to be cheaper than marrying one from overseas.

I am repeadedly stunned by the range and depth of VJ members knowledge of these subjects

[slim 1,533]

Well, if you just want cheap, finding some local Russian prostitution near where you live is going to be cheaper than marrying one from overseas.

I don't know the "secret handshake" around here. I'd probably have to go to either Chi-Town or one of the coasts to get into that club. If I'm going to make a trip, I'll go ahead and make a trip to the source, kind of cut out the middle man, so to speak.

[Thomas-n-Elena 0]

Who told you about the secret handshake, umm there is NO secret handshake!, yeah thats the ticket no secret handshake everyone is welcome in except those that arent.

[akdiver 3]

I am repeadedly stunned by the range and depth of VJ members knowledge of these subjects

It doesn't take much knowledge to know that pay-per-view is usually cheaper than a long-term contract.

[slim 1,533]

I am repeadedly stunned by the range and depth of VJ members knowledge of these subjects

It doesn't take much knowledge to know that pay-per-view is usually cheaper than a long-term contract.

Now that's a fact!

[Brad and Vika 129]

I am repeadedly stunned by the range and depth of VJ members knowledge of these subjects

It doesn't take much knowledge to know that pay-per-view is usually cheaper than a long-term contract.

Now that's a fact!

[slim 1,533]

Yeah, why buy the cow if you get the milk for free?

Edited: Or for at low cost, anyway?

Edited September 15, 2008 by slim

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

FWIW, this tiger is coming out of the jungle for a moment. Cam is actually making his third trip to Kazan' next month. I met Cam in Kazan' when I was living there with Alla. He is actually a very nice guy. I am fully aware of everything that occurred on his trips. He admits he made a big mistake being so open on this forum. Try not to pick on him too much (again), although his post may have deserved it... Well... Cam's infamous quote AKDIVER and Slim pointed out is a pretty good one.

[Brad and Vika 129]

Yeah, why buy the cow if you get the milk for free?

Edited: Or for at low cost, anyway?

But if you use pay-per-view, you really don't get the cow or the milk. Maybe a picture of milk

[akdiver 3]

But if you use pay-per-view, you really don't get the cow or the milk. Maybe a picture of milk

You get the milk for a little while - and that's all some guys need to keep their cornflakes wet.

[slim 1,533]

I'm glad Cam shared what he did and there's no discredit to him coming from me. I think it's only natural for a man, any man, to be "offered" the goods and services of Russia/FSU and be pleasantly surprised. Maybe even partake in the local customs, so to speak.

This ####### about, "he was going there to meet his fiancee and they should've been 100% in love" etc., is merely that, #######! When you shell out thousands of dollars to take a "fact-finding" trip to the other side of the world, I believe you're entitled to check out anything and everything you can. Truth be told, you SHOULD take advantage of everything offered at your destination in order to truly ascertain if what you have is what you want.

I don't want to discredit anyone's relationship or personal scenario, but when you "point, click, get engaged" you're selling yourself short unless that's what you want. Everyone has their own circumstances and wants something different, but to say a guy is "not right" for going over there and doing a little more than "following up" on his e-mails and phone calls to a woman he's never met before, sets yourself up to say you are not right for marrying a person you barely even know.

Bottom line - Everyone is looking for something specific when they go over there. Maybe Cam (and others) don't have such a specific goal in mind and broaden their search just a little more. If it includes something you deem unacceptable, then don't go over there and do what he did. Do what you did (or are going to do.) But don't knock Cam or anyone like him in the meantime. Could be he's making a smarter decision than all the rest of us. Taking several trips and time to decide is never a bad thing.

For those who say he should concentrate on just one woman, did you only click on one profile when you got started? You sorted through the "possibles" and narrowed it down. He's doing the same thing, just on a broader (and er, more hands-on) scale.