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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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My Thai fiancee recently received her Packet 3, but we are finding the instructions a bit confusing for when to submit originals. Actually I am a little concerned about trusting original documents to the Thai postal system. Although the Packet instructions say to return all documents "by mail", I am wondering if it is possible for her to personally deliver her Packet 3 to the Bangkok embassy.

Secondly, there is a little confusion about which documents MUST be submitted as originals with Packet 3 and which originals can be brought to the interview. I think we are clear that with the Packet 3 she only needs to submit photocopies of her passport, birth certificate, and her name change certificate. She would take the originals to her interview. The instructions indicate that she should submit the original receipt for payment of the application fee, but I am wondering if she can submit a photocopy with Packet 3 and take the original receipt to the interview (again, I am concerned about possible loss of the original receipt). I have the same question about the police record. Can she submit a photocopy with Packet 3 and take the original to the interview?

Likewise, the instructions for Packet 3 would seem to indicate that she needs to submit my Form I-134 along with the originals of my proof (I am intending to send IRS transcripts of my recent tax returns and a letter from my brokerage account). I would be much more comfortable if she only submitted photocopies of my tax transcripts and my brokerage letter with Packet 3, saving the originals for the interview. Could she submit the original Form I-134 and photocopies of my proof with her Packet 3, then take the original documents of proof to the interview?

I was previously married and divorced many years ago. The Packet 4 instructions would seem to indicate that she needs to bring original proof of my divorce at the time of her interview. I have only a single stamped page showing the entry of judgement for my divorce. I would like to know if it is even necessary for me to mail her that original. I enclosed a photocopy with my submittal of the Form I-129F package (which was approved), I will send her another photocopy to submit with Packet 3, and my tax returns which will be submitted with Form I-134 all show that my filing status is "single." Do I need to risk sending the original stamped page showing Entry of Judgement to Thailand?

Finally, a simple question. In the fifth paragraph of the instructions for Packet 3, it is stated that "Each document must be submitted in original and with a photocopy for each traveling applicant..." I assume that this only applies to any original documents, such at the birth certificate, which might be submitted with Packet 3, and does not apply to the required forms. I understand that the originals of Forms DS-230, DS-156, DS-156K, DS-157, and I-134 must be filed with Packet 3. Although the instructions also refer to these forms as "documents", I assume that it is not necessary to include a photocopy of each form with Packet 3.

Any advice or experience would be greatly appreciated.

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always send copies unless you have lots of certified copies. when you go to the interview , if you have to then you still bring copies of everything, but also your originals so if they ask to see it ok?


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11/19/2011 Married (6 days)
11/25/2011 Filed Marriage License (6 days)
12/08/2011 Sent AOS Packet ( I-485, I-130, I-797 (13 days)
12/12/2011 NOA ( Packet received) (4 days)
02/16/2012 RFE (70 days)
02/20/2012 Sent Requested Evidence Back (4 days)
02/24/2012 Notice of Receipt of Evidence (4 days)
02/25/2012 Production of EAD/AP Combo Card (1 day)
03/02/2012 Mailed EAD/AP Combo Card (6 days)
03/05/2012 Received EAD/AP Combo Card In Mail (3 days)
03/14/2012 Received Interview Notice for 4/18/2012 (9 days)
04/18/2012 Interview at 10:50 am APPROVED (4 days)
04/18/2012 Notice of Approval for GC (35 days)
04/23/2012 Card in Production email (5 days)
04/24/2012 Card in Mail (1 day)
04/26/2012 GC in hand YAYAYAYA! (2 days)

Removal Of Conditions

02/03/2014 Collect all paperwork for I-751 and over nighted to Vermont Service Center

02/05/2014 Notice of Acceptance Online (2 days)

03/12/2014 Biometrics Appointment ( Went Smooth) (35 days)

05/09/2014 Waiting!!! (58 days)

08/01/2014 I-751 APPROVED ( 142 days)

08/07/2014 Received the approval letter ( 148 days )

Naturalization

11/22/2016 Over nighted N-400 to Lewisville Texas

11/29/2016 Check Cashed!

12/05/2016 NOA

12/20/2016 Biometrics Appointment

01/30/2017 In Line for Interview

04/03/2017 Interview day! Approved (134 Days)

04/07/2017 Received Oath Ceremony Letter (137 days)




Total of 148 days in the ROC process!

Day 137 of Naturalization after starting this whole process 6 years ago.... here we go again.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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thailand sets it up like that? it's a bit different for China, where originals are brought in , but there's 2 days with Guangzhou - one for document intake, one for interview.

Perhaps the instructions she has, resembles the OF-169 , over at http://guangzhou.usembassy-china.org.cn/forms_and_packets.htm ??

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always send copies unless you have lots of certified copies. when you go to the interview , if you have to then you still bring copies of everything, but also your originals so if they ask to see it ok?

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. This question is about what to mail to the Embassy/Consulate and is Country specific. If the OP wants an interview in Bangkok, they follow the Bangkok Immigrant Visa Unit's instructions.

For Bangkok K1 applications ALL ORIGINAL FORMS AND CIVIL DOCUMENTS accept the medical exam results are mailed in before an interview appointment is granted. Carry the medical exam results and relationship evidence to the interview.


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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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I should have made it clear that I was specifically asking about the BANGKOK embassy in THAILAND. It seems apparent that procedures vary greatly from one location to another. I especially would like to know if the Packet 3 information can be hand delivered to that embassy or if it is required to trust it to the postal system.

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I should have made it clear that I was specifically asking about the BANGKOK embassy in THAILAND. It seems apparent that procedures vary greatly from one location to another. I especially would like to know if the Packet 3 information can be hand delivered to that embassy or if it is required to trust it to the postal system.

It cannot be hand delivered. It has to be mailed mailed to them.


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12-20-2012 Pui returns from Thailand.

12-21-2012 We send the RFE back for with original birth certificate along with a new certificate of translation(I had to wait for her to return for her to sign)

12-26-2012 text and email they have received the RFE.

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It cannot be hand delivered. It has to be mailed mailed to them.

You can use a courier service like UPS, DHL etc. DHL definitely delivers to them.


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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Thailand
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I should have made it clear that I was specifically asking about the BANGKOK embassy in THAILAND. It seems apparent that procedures vary greatly from one location to another. I especially would like to know if the Packet 3 information can be hand delivered to that embassy or if it is required to trust it to the postal system.

In the past it was all hand carried in the day of the interview. Now it is mailed in with the exception of the medical & relationship documents. The reason for this is to give the officers time to review the material prior to the interview.

Keep in mind that this is done in many cases with few problems. In my experiance with the Thai postal system things went well. I dont see cases here on V J where people complained. Andi for example recently did exactly what is required with no problems.

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WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. This question is about what to mail to the Embassy/Consulate and is Country specific. If the OP wants an interview in Bangkok, they follow the Bangkok Immigrant Visa Unit's instructions.

For Bangkok K1 applications ALL ORIGINAL FORMS AND CIVIL DOCUMENTS accept the medical exam results are mailed in before an interview appointment is granted. Carry the medical exam results and relationship evidence to the interview.

Ok I am sorry thank you so much for the correction, I will say HERE in the states, Your originals are your lifesaver, so whatever you have to do in other countries, once you get here, Hold on to originals as much as you possibly can. And again, sorry for miss information, as in NZ for us, they only asked to bring originals once we were at embassy for interview, and even then, they still didn't ask for them, But all situations are different, Good Luck OP :D


11/13/2011 POE LAX ( My love is finally HOME!)
11/19/2011 Married (6 days)
11/25/2011 Filed Marriage License (6 days)
12/08/2011 Sent AOS Packet ( I-485, I-130, I-797 (13 days)
12/12/2011 NOA ( Packet received) (4 days)
02/16/2012 RFE (70 days)
02/20/2012 Sent Requested Evidence Back (4 days)
02/24/2012 Notice of Receipt of Evidence (4 days)
02/25/2012 Production of EAD/AP Combo Card (1 day)
03/02/2012 Mailed EAD/AP Combo Card (6 days)
03/05/2012 Received EAD/AP Combo Card In Mail (3 days)
03/14/2012 Received Interview Notice for 4/18/2012 (9 days)
04/18/2012 Interview at 10:50 am APPROVED (4 days)
04/18/2012 Notice of Approval for GC (35 days)
04/23/2012 Card in Production email (5 days)
04/24/2012 Card in Mail (1 day)
04/26/2012 GC in hand YAYAYAYA! (2 days)

Removal Of Conditions

02/03/2014 Collect all paperwork for I-751 and over nighted to Vermont Service Center

02/05/2014 Notice of Acceptance Online (2 days)

03/12/2014 Biometrics Appointment ( Went Smooth) (35 days)

05/09/2014 Waiting!!! (58 days)

08/01/2014 I-751 APPROVED ( 142 days)

08/07/2014 Received the approval letter ( 148 days )

Naturalization

11/22/2016 Over nighted N-400 to Lewisville Texas

11/29/2016 Check Cashed!

12/05/2016 NOA

12/20/2016 Biometrics Appointment

01/30/2017 In Line for Interview

04/03/2017 Interview day! Approved (134 Days)

04/07/2017 Received Oath Ceremony Letter (137 days)




Total of 148 days in the ROC process!

Day 137 of Naturalization after starting this whole process 6 years ago.... here we go again.

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