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Are Affidavits necessary? I've gathered the following:

Joint Car Insurance

Joint Health Insurance cards

Bank Statement

Pictures

Drivers' Licenses

Tax Return for 2010

I really wanted to submit this tomorrow but I'm wondering if I need more evidence?

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No they are not necessary. I think they are only needed if you don't have any other evidence. We sent financial evidence. Joint bank accounts, joint deeds, joint car and health insurance etc. A few photos and details of flights we have taken together over the last 2 years. The NOA 1 gives you a one year extension on your greencard (while they process it) and it asks that if you have not already done so to send in documents. It gives a list of financial documents and does not mention affidavits. So I take that to mean they don't really want them.

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It's a matter of opinion (and possibly a little contentious!) around here, but personally I would opt to include affidavits. In your case, it looks like you don't have much proof of cohabitation. Are both of your names on the lease / mortgage? Also, remember that they want to see proof from various stages of the relationship since you've been in the U.S. So submitting only recent copies of things might not fly.

Since affidavits don't need to be notarized (i.e.: can be done for free), it's MY opinion that they can't hurt your I-751 package, as they will bolster the other evidence you have.

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I know people who received RFE for not sending Affidavits, and instead of getting a full 10yr GC got a 1yr extension. As other members noted there is not need to notorized, I would get affidavits and send it all together. Better be safe then sorry.

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And as they don't need to be notarized you could have written them yourself so they aren't really a great form of evidence.

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Although as others say it can't help sending them. It looks like it's taking VCS 6-8 months to process I-751 so waiting a few days to get more evidence together won't really make that much difference.

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And as they don't need to be notarized you could have written them yourself so they aren't really a great form of evidence.

The instructions for I-751 reads that affidavit of support is required. And such people may require to testify before an IO. So I would say they have to be done no matter what.

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I know people who received RFE for not sending Affidavits, and instead of getting a full 10yr GC got a 1yr extension. As other members noted there is not need to notorized, I would get affidavits and send it all together. Better be safe then sorry.

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a one year extension? if you mean the letter you get after USCIS has received your i-751, that is standard procedure.

this sounds a bit far-fetched. care to elaborate?

if you feel that your evidence of cohabitation and financial comingling is strong, affadavits are not necessary. if you feel that your evidence needs support, they are an option.

if you are in a bona fide marriage, you will not have much difficulty convincing USCIS of that if you submit an organized and complete package.

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26 jul 11 : NOA2 generated

28 jul 11 : NOA2 biometrics appt letter rec'd

29 jul 11 : letter req biometrics appt rescheduling sent

09 aug 11 : biometrics appt (could not attend); NOA3 generated

11 aug 11 : NOA3 (rescheduled) biometrics appt letter rec'd

24 aug 11 : biometrics appt

14 oct 11 : conditional green card expiry date

16 nov 11 : filed AR-11 for LPR online

18 nov 11 : mailed i-865 for USC

22 nov 11 : moved house; NOA4 change of address for USC rec'd

13 dec 11 : filed AR-11 for LPR by phone

29 dec 11 : filed hardcopy AR-11 for LPR by mail

18 jan 12 : 6 month mark ROC

05 apr 12 : approval letter rec'd

16 jul 12 : n-400 filing window opens

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none, immigration-wise.
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The instructions for I-751 reads that affidavit of support is required. And such people may require to testify before an IO. So I would say they have to be done no matter what.

please post the source for this information.

this is (at least) the second time you have posted this. it is NOT ACCURATE.

affidavits are NOT REQUIRED but are accepted as a form of evidence for the i-751.

21 oct 08 : i-129F sent / 22 oct 08 : NOA1 / 23 feb 09: NOA2 / 13 mar 09 : rec'd 'packet 3' / 28 mar 09 : rec'd 'packet 4' / 20 apr 09 : interview / 22 apr 09 : passport/visa delivery by courier / 29 apr 09 : POE @ PHL / <3 05 may 09 : married <3 / 06 jul 09 : AOS submitted / 09 jul 09 : NOA for EAD/AP/i-485 / 28 jul 09 : biometrics / 31 aug 09 : AP rec'd / 02 sep 09 : EAD rec'd / 19 oct 09 : conditional green card rec'd

16 jul 11 : i-751 sent to VSC (fedex)

18 jul 11 : fedex confirmed delivery; NOA1 generated

20 jul 11 : NOA1 notice rec'd; check cashed; touch

26 jul 11 : NOA2 generated

28 jul 11 : NOA2 biometrics appt letter rec'd

29 jul 11 : letter req biometrics appt rescheduling sent

09 aug 11 : biometrics appt (could not attend); NOA3 generated

11 aug 11 : NOA3 (rescheduled) biometrics appt letter rec'd

24 aug 11 : biometrics appt

14 oct 11 : conditional green card expiry date

16 nov 11 : filed AR-11 for LPR online

18 nov 11 : mailed i-865 for USC

22 nov 11 : moved house; NOA4 change of address for USC rec'd

13 dec 11 : filed AR-11 for LPR by phone

29 dec 11 : filed hardcopy AR-11 for LPR by mail

18 jan 12 : 6 month mark ROC

05 apr 12 : approval letter rec'd

16 jul 12 : n-400 filing window opens

immediate concerns:

none, immigration-wise.
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please post the source for this information.

this is (at least) the second time you have posted this. it is NOT ACCURATE.

affidavits are NOT REQUIRED but are accepted as a form of evidence for the i-751.

Please read instructions for I-751 here: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-751instr.pdf

Page 2. Bullet 5.

I would say it is pretty strong information that would urge applicants to get it.

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a one year extension? if you mean the letter you get after USCIS has received your i-751, that is standard procedure.

this sounds a bit far-fetched. care to elaborate?

if you feel that your evidence of cohabitation and financial comingling is strong, affadavits are not necessary. if you feel that your evidence needs support, they are an option.

if you are in a bona fide marriage, you will not have much difficulty convincing USCIS of that if you submit an organized and complete package.

I am not talking about a letter. My friends received a new GC which is valid only for one year. As well as they received an RFE to submit an Affidavit from friends. They do have a bona fide marriage, they own a house, car, etc... and have a child together. And still were required to submit it. So as I always say: "Better be safe then sorry".

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Please read instructions for I-751 here: http://www.uscis.gov.../i-751instr.pdf

Page 2. Bullet 5.

Nope. You are reading way too much into that.

Where does it say that the documents listed in those 5 bullet points MUST be produced? The only MUST about the affidavit, is that if you include one, it MUST be the original.

The bullet points are examples of good documents to provide - nothing more. The onus is on the applicant to provide the strongest evidence possible, but the key phrase is:

"Submit copies of as many documents as you wish, to establish this fact and to demonstrate the circumstances of the relationship from the date of marriage to the present date"

If an applicant wants to submit an affidavit, that's their choice. It is NOT mandatory.

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they are NOT required. many, many successful ROCers have been approved WITHOUT affidavits.

actually, very little is required for the ROC application.

1. the application itself

2. the fee

from there you need to prove financial comingling, cohabitation and bona fide marriage. this can be accomplished in a variety of ways, as listed in the instructions for the i-751. also note that the VJ guide for ROC addresses this issue as have many many many threads.

it is fine if people are more comfortable including them in their package, but it is not mandatory in any way shape or form.

failing to include them will not lead to an automatic (or even increased likelihood) of an RFE, an interview, a denial or a mysterious one year green card.

21 oct 08 : i-129F sent / 22 oct 08 : NOA1 / 23 feb 09: NOA2 / 13 mar 09 : rec'd 'packet 3' / 28 mar 09 : rec'd 'packet 4' / 20 apr 09 : interview / 22 apr 09 : passport/visa delivery by courier / 29 apr 09 : POE @ PHL / <3 05 may 09 : married <3 / 06 jul 09 : AOS submitted / 09 jul 09 : NOA for EAD/AP/i-485 / 28 jul 09 : biometrics / 31 aug 09 : AP rec'd / 02 sep 09 : EAD rec'd / 19 oct 09 : conditional green card rec'd

16 jul 11 : i-751 sent to VSC (fedex)

18 jul 11 : fedex confirmed delivery; NOA1 generated

20 jul 11 : NOA1 notice rec'd; check cashed; touch

26 jul 11 : NOA2 generated

28 jul 11 : NOA2 biometrics appt letter rec'd

29 jul 11 : letter req biometrics appt rescheduling sent

09 aug 11 : biometrics appt (could not attend); NOA3 generated

11 aug 11 : NOA3 (rescheduled) biometrics appt letter rec'd

24 aug 11 : biometrics appt

14 oct 11 : conditional green card expiry date

16 nov 11 : filed AR-11 for LPR online

18 nov 11 : mailed i-865 for USC

22 nov 11 : moved house; NOA4 change of address for USC rec'd

13 dec 11 : filed AR-11 for LPR by phone

29 dec 11 : filed hardcopy AR-11 for LPR by mail

18 jan 12 : 6 month mark ROC

05 apr 12 : approval letter rec'd

16 jul 12 : n-400 filing window opens

immediate concerns:

none, immigration-wise.
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Are Affidavits necessary? I've gathered the following:

Joint Car Insurance

Joint Health Insurance cards

Bank Statement

Pictures

Drivers' Licenses

Tax Return for 2010

I really wanted to submit this tomorrow but I'm wondering if I need more evidence?

Thanks!

I'd recommend tossing in your tax returns for as long as you were married if possible. 3 years of tax returns will add a lot of weight to your file and will be far more effective than any affidavits you're worrying about.

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Nope. You are reading way too much into that.

Where does it say that the documents listed in those 5 bullet points MUST be produced? The only MUST about the affidavit, is that if you include one, it MUST be the original.

The bullet points are examples of good documents to provide - nothing more. The onus is on the applicant to provide the strongest evidence possible, but the key phrase is:

"Submit copies of as many documents as you wish, to establish this fact and to demonstrate the circumstances of the relationship from the date of marriage to the present date"

If an applicant wants to submit an affidavit, that's their choice. It is NOT mandatory.

I might be reading way to much. But as I said better be safe then sorry. I submitted as much as I could with my I-129F and didn't got an RFE. If I have a way to avoid any questioning from the USCIS I will do that.

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