Applying for N600 for my son HOW???

[Smarty 0]

I recently became a citizen now i want to apply for my son how does it work

also i read a few things about should i apply for a n600 or a passport??

i am a little lost help?

[YuAndDan 153]

Many simply apply for a US Passport, it is much less costly than filing N-600, if later in life son wishes to get a naturalization cert, he can file for one.

Apply for passport by sending your nat cert, along with son's birth cert proving relationship and age along with other docs to Department of State.

http://www.travel.state.gov/passport/get/minors/minors_834.html

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

He can't get a Certificate of Naturalization. All the $600 for the N-600 can buy you is a Certificate of Citizenship. Like the Certificate of Naturalization you got, it has only 1 primary purpose: to get the very first US passport. Thereafter the CoN or CoC goes into the bank safe as a worst case scenario backup in case a Tsunami, earthquake, or wildfire swallows your house and everything in it.

If you want to save the $600, get your son a US passport when you apply for yours. (Absolutely apply for a book and a card!) He only needs his Green Card, his birth certificate (proving that you are his daddy), money and photos. Once you have your CoN back, put it in the bank safe. Put your passport book in the safest place in your house, ideally in a fire safe, and the passport card somewhere else. Mine is in my office at work. This way you have 3 different proofs of US citizenship, and never have to mail in your CoN again. For that same reason your son doesn't need a CoC. With a passport book and a passport card, he has 2 different documents as proof of citizenship, hopefully stored at different locations.

[NickD 203]

He can't get a Certificate of Naturalization. All the $600 for the N-600 can buy you is a Certificate of Citizenship. Like the Certificate of Naturalization you got, it has only 1 primary purpose: to get the very first US passport. Thereafter the CoN or CoC goes into the bank safe as a worst case scenario backup in case a Tsunami, earthquake, or wildfire swallows your house and everything in it.

If you want to save the $600, get your son a US passport when you apply for yours. (Absolutely apply for a book and a card!) He only needs his Green Card, his birth certificate (proving that you are his daddy), money and photos. Once you have your CoN back, put it in the bank safe. Put your passport book in the safest place in your house, ideally in a fire safe, and the passport card somewhere else. Mine is in my office at work. This way you have 3 different proofs of US citizenship, and never have to mail in your CoN again. For that same reason your son doesn't need a CoC. With a passport book and a passport card, he has 2 different documents as proof of citizenship, hopefully stored at different locations.

May need more than a birth certificate if child carries the biological parent's name and the mom has a new married name. Need a paper trail to show that relationship.

N-600 should be called the N-600 bucks. Would have paid that for my stepdaughter if she was wise enough not to turn 18 before her mom could apply. As it was, had to lay out 675 bucks, yeah, I know its 680 bucks now, we were lucky. My point is, these step kids don't get a free ride, USCIS gets you one way or the other. Her AOS was a lot more expensive than her moms in getting that permission from her biological father that left her some six years earlier, sure thought that was a pile of BS, but you have to follow the law of the those countries. And they sure can take advantage of you. Did get a semi-free ride with the I-751 only adding 80 bucks to the bill, but you do get the impression during the N-400 stage, your kids get a free ride.

No such thing as a free ride for kids.

[Langa 2]

I say you should apply for the ceritificate. It will cost you $600. You/your child may need it in the future so why not just have it. Please search for my previous postings I made starting February 7th and nding March 24 under this forum if you want to know what the process involves (atleast what I went through for my daughter's application). Search under my username or look for topic N-600 under this forum.

[Jojo92122 1,924]

Get the damn Certificate of Citizenship!!!!!

A US passport by itself does not prove citizenship. A US passport is gain BASED on proof of US citizenship. GET A RECORD OF YOUR CHILD'S CITIZENSHIP. SEND IN THE N-600.

This is my analogy: I can vote BASED on my US citizenship. Voting in itself does not prove that I am a US citizen.

[Jojo92122 1,924]

I recently became a citizen now i want to apply for my son how does it work

also i read a few things about should i apply for a n600 or a passport??

i am a little lost help?

How old is your son?

Is he a legal permanent resident?

Does he live with you?

Does he meet all four requirements of the Child Citizenship Act of 2000 to claim US citizenship?

Edited April 13, 2011 by Jojo92122

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

A US passport by itself does not prove citizenship.

Did you hit your head?

A US passport, the book as well as the card, is a CLASS A document. It is the only document that proves not only the identity of a the holder, but also his or her citizenship status.

More to the point, when it comes to the I-9, Uncle Sam does not even accept a Certificate of Citizenship or a Certificate of Naturalization anymore. The only document that proves identity, citizenship, and thus the eligibility to work is the US passport! Why? Because a CoC or CoN has not expiration date and can be faked quite easily, whereas it's pretty darn impossible to fake a US passport.

What does that mean?

It means that the CoC/CoN has only one function: to get the first US passport. Thereafter that passport will serve as proof of citizenship. The CoC or CoN is a purely worst case scenario backup. It may look pretty framed on the wall as well, but is that worth spending $600?

[NickD 203]

Did you hit your head?

A US passport, the book as well as the card, is a CLASS A document. It is the only document that proves not only the identity of a the holder, but also his or her citizenship status.

More to the point, when it comes to the I-9, Uncle Sam does not even accept a Certificate of Citizenship or a Certificate of Naturalization anymore. The only document that proves identity, citizenship, and thus the eligibility to work is the US passport! Why? Because a CoC or CoN has not expiration date and can be faked quite easily, whereas it's pretty darn impossible to fake a US passport.

What does that mean?

It means that the CoC/CoN has only one function: to get the first US passport. Thereafter that passport will serve as proof of citizenship. The CoC or CoN is a purely worst case scenario backup. It may look pretty framed on the wall as well, but is that worth spending $600?

I for one disagree, at one time in this country we had agencies that only had the power to advise congress, in the last 40 years with have 1,525 government agencies with independent powers that make that own laws they blame congress for when not even one congressman know what is going on. So who is exactly in charge of immigration? Essentially the USCIS has that key responsibility, but when bringing a person over here, the Department of State, and entirely different agency also has a say, a very strong say. Then the FBI also enters the picture. We learned during 9/11 these agencies cannot even communicate with each other, so what does Bush do? Create yet another agency putting guys in charge that don't know ####### by helped him to win the election. Emilio is a perfect example of that, took the board of immigration attorneys to get rid of him.

Sure you can apply for a US passport, but have to send in a whole bunch of original documents to prove that kid is yours, your naturalization certificate, and have some idiot look over that paperwork that in some cases, doesn't even know how to make a decision. Examples of this on this board. With the naturalization certificate, only have to send in one. During my stepdaughters oath ceremony, also learned the USCIS is now working with social security, yet another agency to get your citizenship status recorded with SS. Does the Department of State also do that? I highly doubt that. And is the Department of State even capable of going through all that paper work to grant a US passport? All depends on which idiot looks over your application and find similar idiots at the SS office as well.

Even you have a certificate of naturalization so how can you go against that? All my wife and now my stepdaughter had to bring into the DOS agent was their certificate of naturalization, makes life a lot simpler.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Nick,

I that's all true what you're saying. But . . . for many people $600 is a bunch of money, and it's only fair to tell 'em that the CoC is not really necessary. The kid is already a USC, he just needs to have it documented. Is it possible that a drone at the passport office doesn't understand the process? Sure. But it's worth trying, IMNSHO.

[NickD 203]

Nick,

I that's all true what you're saying. But . . . for many people $600 is a bunch of money, and it's only fair to tell 'em that the CoC is not really necessary. The kid is already a USC, he just needs to have it documented. Is it possible that a drone at the passport office doesn't understand the process? Sure. But it's worth trying, IMNSHO.

Ha, love really sucks, kids grew up and left home, had this big house to myself, and was as free as a bird. Then I had to meet this wonderful woman and fall in love with her. That is when the pain began, with me here and her in Venezuela. To help kill the time and the ache, took on another job and managed to earn an additional 25 grand to cover immigration expenses. My wife to be was also saving her pennies. What the IRS didn't take, the USCIS got most of the rest of it, and none of this is tax deductible, that is also a crime.

But time when by, still can't believe she is still her, and that smile in the morning is worth a million bucks.

Stepdaughter wasn't too happy coming here, but she finally got a chance to go back to Venezuela when she turned 18, her old man wouldn't sign for a passport for her. She was in for quite a surprise when she returned, she was way different from her childhood friends, and was quite pleased to return home. Then elected to go to college and make something out of her life. It washer decision to stay here, and I felt an obligation to pay for her US citizenship and so did her mom.

All is well that ends well, and yes, the USCIS is very expensive, its a sacrifice we have to make to stay together as a family. Too bad its not tax deductible, and only a part of her tuition expenses are. If I hate anyone, its our government, but try not to think about that. Nothing more contradictory to hear, is a politician talking about family values.