Captain Ewok - what in the world is going on?

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

what do you think should have been done? inviso'd posts? locked & deleted? suspensions?

if you pick suspension...who? the person making the remarks that offended you, or the OP that knew those remarks were a matter of time?

I think what should have been done is what WAS done for the most part: let the words stand as they are as the petard on which the posters might hoist themselves. Anything slanderous (I can't recall if there was anything) should be removed. I would never have called for a suspension or a lock or a deletion. Not my bag for this sort of talk.

[SMOKE 1,426]

I think what should have been done is what WAS done for the most part: let the words stand as they are as the petard on which the posters might hoist themselves. Anything slanderous (I can't recall if there was anything) should be removed. I would never have called for a suspension or a lock or a deletion. Not my bag for this sort of talk.

so...'noteworthy', meaning the mods should get a pat on the back for a job well done?

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

so...'noteworthy', meaning the mods should get a pat on the back for a job well done?

No, noteworthy that an aside about a handjob got deleted (and a sh!tstorm apparently started) but when there was frank discussion about other sexual acts performed by VJ members nothing happened. I would have preferred all these posts stand. You won't find me standing in the censorship corner too often.

[SMOKE 1,426]

No, noteworthy that an aside about a handjob got deleted (and a sh!tstorm apparently started) but when there was frank discussion about other sexual acts performed by VJ members nothing happened. I would have preferred all these posts stand. You won't find me standing in the censorship corner too often.

did both occur in the OT? & was the handjob comment directed & intended to be an insult?...i'm not being difficult, i'm just trying to understand the differences.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

did both occur in the OT? & was the handjob comment directed & intended to be an insult?...i'm not being difficult, i'm just trying to understand the differences.

The BJ comment was in OT, the handjob in the UK forum. It was a personal anecdote and was not an insult, but a description of a very strange date.

At this point, I'm tempted to shrug my shoulders and say: meh.

[TBoneTX 47,925]

Can people please stop calling other people "junior woodchucks"?

[The_Dude 1,142]

Can people please stop calling other people "junior woodchucks"?

Why does that offend you?

[TBoneTX 47,925]

Why does that offend you?

1. Did I say that it did?

2. Presumably, you're capable of Googling the term yourself.

3. Was it NOT intended to be offensive? Please elaborate in support of your answer.

[LaL 418]

Mox - you know that Charles wasn't the first regional mod, right? I think there were 2 or so before him.

[The_Dude 1,142]

1. Did I say that it did?

2. Presumably, you're capable of Googling the term yourself.

3. Was it NOT intended to be offensive? Please elaborate in support of your answer.

T-Bone, I think you might have given yourself a frontal wedgie. Si man.

If you're not offended by the use of the term, then why would you bother requesting that others stop using it?

[Jenn! 918]

You probably just didn't notice them - they were mostly in the PI forum. I think the first was Sheriff Uling, and there were others too.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well I don't think we should really be resurrecting that old point, but I will say that Charles hasn't really held back when it comes to baiting other members on other parts of the site. I reported an OT post of his directed at me a couple of weeks ago where he responded to an on-topic post I made in a thread with something along the lines of "who cares what you think". Well one of the global mods agreed with me that it and the subsequent posts were antagonistic personal attacks and deleted them for that reason. No apology was offered, no admission of wrongdoing on his part. In point of fact, I have never seen Charles' once acknowledge or apologise for wrongdoing on his part.

As far as moderation goes - you expect these people to be approachable and at least adhere themselves to the standards they are trying to enforce.

As I said in the other thread - I don't believe that Charles' post in the other thread was innocent. I freely admit that I have a bias where he is concerned, but what I think is that Charles deliberately created an ambiguous situation in order to make a personal attack against Maven that could be explained away as misunderstanding. That would be entirely consistent with his past MO and post history.

Edited August 16, 2010 by Its a MADHOUSE

[LaL 418]

You probably just didn't notice them - they were mostly in the PI forum. I think the first was Sheriff Uling, and there were others too.

yup.

[The_Dude 1,142]

My problem with Charles as a deputy moderator is his credibility. How can you take him seriously when he warns people and locks threads for baiting or trolling when he himself does it in OT. I just don't think that you can separate Charles the OT Troll from Charles the Regional Forum Deputy Moderator.

[TBoneTX 47,925]

Which brings us back around to the position being tailor made for someone who couldn't be trusted with the full authority of a moderator.

The excellent Susita, appointed after Charles was, is another Regional Moderator.

If you're not offended by the use of the term, then why would you bother requesting that others stop using it?

Because use of the neutral (official) term enables readers to concentrate on the persuasive content of posted messages, rather than on implied or overt personality conflicts or intended insults to people or to the system. Regarding the making of my own statement, I felt no wedgie, frontal or otherwise, and continue to feel none, si man.