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Hey everyone. I've been looking through the various monthly filer threads trying to see if I can figure out a pattern in terms of how these cases get adjudicated and to tell you the truth I don't have the foggiest idea. :no:

Even disregarding the fact that CSC has been at a stand still (in terms of approvals) for the past few months, what's really happening with VSC? There are cases from as far back as December that haven't been approved yet, but yet approvals are rolling in for filers in June already (yay!).

Is there any method to the madness that goes on at USCIS or is it just a matter of them closing their eyes, putting their hand on a pile and arbitrarily choosing a file from the middle?

I wish there were someone on the inside who could give us some insight on how the process works. I'd also like to know exactly how many people they have working on I-751 cases at both CSC and VSC. That would give us a better idea of what kind of work load they have to be dealing with.

Trying to make sense out of non-sense gives me a headache. :bonk:


NATURALIZATION
07-03-2013: Eligible to file
07-22-2013: Application sent (Delivered: 07-24-13)
08-05-2013: NOA1 received (Priority date: 07-24-13, Check cashed: 07-29-13)
08-22-2013: Biometrics (Received: 08-06-13, Walk-in: 08-08-13)
09-03-2013: Inline for interview (Yellow letter received: 10-23-13)
11-04-2013: Interview scheduled (Received: 11-09-13)
12-12-2013: Interview (Approved)
01-03-2014: Oath ceremony, passport application and passport received

DONE!

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I think it is a random process... i've attempted similar analysis but found out that there are no patterns to follow.

You are under their mercy during these phases....


N-400 Naturalization Timeline

06/28/11 .. Mailed N-400 package via Priority mail with delivery confirmation

06/30/11 .. Package Delivered to Dallas Lockbox

07/06/11 .. Received e-mail notification of application acceptance

07/06/11 .. Check cashed

07/08/11 .. Received NOA letter

07/29/11 .. Received text/e-mail for biometrics notice

08/03/11 .. Received Biometrics letter - scheduled for 8/24/11

08/04/11 .. Walk-in finger prints done.

08/08/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Placed in line for interview scheduling

09/12/11 .. Received Yellow letter dated 9/7/11

09/13/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Interview scheduled

09/16/11 .. Received interview letter

10/19/11 .. Interview - PASSED

10/20/11 .. Received text/email: Oath scheduled

10/22/11 .. Received OATH letter

11/09/11 .. Oath ceremony

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I think it is a random process... i've attempted similar analysis but found out that there are no patterns to follow.

You are under their mercy during these phases....

Very random indeed. Last week someone got approved the day before they had their biometrics. USCIS processes are enough to drive anyone :wacko:


NATURALIZATION
07-03-2013: Eligible to file
07-22-2013: Application sent (Delivered: 07-24-13)
08-05-2013: NOA1 received (Priority date: 07-24-13, Check cashed: 07-29-13)
08-22-2013: Biometrics (Received: 08-06-13, Walk-in: 08-08-13)
09-03-2013: Inline for interview (Yellow letter received: 10-23-13)
11-04-2013: Interview scheduled (Received: 11-09-13)
12-12-2013: Interview (Approved)
01-03-2014: Oath ceremony, passport application and passport received

DONE!

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Very random indeed. Last week someone got approved the day before they had their biometrics. USCIS processes are enough to drive anyone :wacko:

This is a new one!


N-400 Naturalization Timeline

06/28/11 .. Mailed N-400 package via Priority mail with delivery confirmation

06/30/11 .. Package Delivered to Dallas Lockbox

07/06/11 .. Received e-mail notification of application acceptance

07/06/11 .. Check cashed

07/08/11 .. Received NOA letter

07/29/11 .. Received text/e-mail for biometrics notice

08/03/11 .. Received Biometrics letter - scheduled for 8/24/11

08/04/11 .. Walk-in finger prints done.

08/08/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Placed in line for interview scheduling

09/12/11 .. Received Yellow letter dated 9/7/11

09/13/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Interview scheduled

09/16/11 .. Received interview letter

10/19/11 .. Interview - PASSED

10/20/11 .. Received text/email: Oath scheduled

10/22/11 .. Received OATH letter

11/09/11 .. Oath ceremony

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There was a K1 filer a couples years back who was an adjudicator. He said their quota is one case per hour. There was an endless supply of boxes with petitions for each adjudicator so easy ones get approved and the harder ones get RFE or delayed. So the VJ hypothesis was if you are not making quota the adjudicator will grab a complete easy to approve file.

The new VJ search does not seem to find this topic anymore.


Naturalization

3/23/14 - N400 package sent to Phoenix

3/27/14 - N400 package delivered

4/3/14 - NOA1 receipt date

4/4/14 - check cashed

04/29/14 - biometrics date

07/01/14 - interview date

xx/xx/xx - Oath Ceremony

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Hey everyone. I've been looking through the various monthly filer threads trying to see if I can figure out a pattern in terms of how these cases get adjudicated and to tell you the truth I don't have the foggiest idea. :no:

Even disregarding the fact that CSC has been at a stand still (in terms of approvals) for the past few months, what's really happening with VSC? There are cases from as far back as December that haven't been approved yet, but yet approvals are rolling in for filers in June already (yay!).

Is there any method to the madness that goes on at USCIS or is it just a matter of them closing their eyes, putting their hand on a pile and arbitrarily choosing a file from the middle?

I wish there were someone on the inside who could give us some insight on how the process works. I'd also like to know exactly how many people they have working on I-751 cases at both CSC and VSC. That would give us a better idea of what kind of work load they have to be dealing with.

Trying to make sense out of non-sense gives me a headache. :bonk:

The people at USCIS themselves have no idea what they are doing most of the time so we will all lose our minds trying to figure out how things work over there. It is purely a random process. They have timelines that never match the approvals.

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There was a K1 filer a couples years back who was an adjudicator. He said their quota is one case per hour. There was an endless supply of boxes with petitions for each adjudicator so easy ones get approved and the harder ones get RFE or delayed. So the VJ hypothesis was if you are not making quota the adjudicator will grab a complete easy to approve file.

The new VJ search does not seem to find this topic anymore.

This is probably true. If you look at http://dashboard.uscis.gov/, you can see that nationally, both California and Vermont, they got 11,000 I-751s in May 2010 and completed 12,000. So that's say 6,000 I-751s for Vermont in 30 days; or, 200 per day. If they did one per hour at 3 shifts per day, that means they have about 8 people doing this all day. Given that we only see about 15 VJers tracking their progress for VSC in, say July 2010, this is an impossibly small sample to draw any conclusions from.


Marriage: 09-22-2007

Conditional Residence

I-130 Sent: 10-10-2007

I-130 Approved: 06-03-2008 (236 days from VSC receipt to approval)

Case Complete at NVC: 07-30-2008 (52 days from NVC receipt to approval)

Consulate Interview date: 09-24-2008

POE Miami: 10-04-2008

Removal of Conditions

I-751 Sent: 07-08-2010

NOA1 Date: 07-12-2010

Biometrics Appt.: 09-01-2010 (Early Bio 08-13-2010)

Approved: 11-03-2010 (114 days from VSC receipt to approval)

GC Rec'd: 11-06-2010

Citizenship

N-400 Sent: 07-08-2011

Confirmation Text Message: 07-14-2011

NOA Priority Date: 07-12-2011

Biometrics Letter Rec'd: 08-01-2011

Biometrics Appt.: 08-19-2011 (Early Bio 08-12-2011)

"Placed in Line" Email and Touched: 08-16-2011

"Interview Scheduled" Email and Touched: 12-23-2011

Rec'd Interview Letter: 12-27-2011

Interview Passed: 01-30-2012

Email from Senator's Office Stating Application Was Approved: 06-18-2012

"Oath Scheduling Que" Email and Touched: 07-03-2012

Given Oath Date at InfoPass Appt. and Touched: 08-28-2012

Rec'd Oath Date Letter in Mail: 09-01-2012

Oath Date: 09-27-2012

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There was a K1 filer a couples years back who was an adjudicator. He said their quota is one case per hour. There was an endless supply of boxes with petitions for each adjudicator so easy ones get approved and the harder ones get RFE or delayed. So the VJ hypothesis was if you are not making quota the adjudicator will grab a complete easy to approve file.

The new VJ search does not seem to find this topic anymore.

Hmmm...that's very interesting information. Thank you!

One case an hour means that in any given day we should (in a perfect world) expect at least 7 cases to be reviewed per adjudicator. That would be considering the cases that are opened aren't 300 pages of evidence.

I'm going to see if I can find that post and see if there was any other pertinent info attached. :thumbs:


NATURALIZATION
07-03-2013: Eligible to file
07-22-2013: Application sent (Delivered: 07-24-13)
08-05-2013: NOA1 received (Priority date: 07-24-13, Check cashed: 07-29-13)
08-22-2013: Biometrics (Received: 08-06-13, Walk-in: 08-08-13)
09-03-2013: Inline for interview (Yellow letter received: 10-23-13)
11-04-2013: Interview scheduled (Received: 11-09-13)
12-12-2013: Interview (Approved)
01-03-2014: Oath ceremony, passport application and passport received

DONE!

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This is probably true. If you look at http://dashboard.uscis.gov/, you can see that nationally, both California and Vermont, they got 11,000 I-751s in May 2010 and completed 12,000. So that's say 6,000 I-751s for Vermont in 30 days; or, 200 per day. If they did one per hour at 3 shifts per day, that means they have about 8 people doing this all day. Given that we only see about 15 VJers tracking their progress for VSC in, say July 2010, this is an impossibly small sample to draw any conclusions from.

Wow...I didn't realize there were that many cases being done every month. :blink: Goodness....no wonder they have a hard time keeping up. I'll keep looking for more helpful info.


NATURALIZATION
07-03-2013: Eligible to file
07-22-2013: Application sent (Delivered: 07-24-13)
08-05-2013: NOA1 received (Priority date: 07-24-13, Check cashed: 07-29-13)
08-22-2013: Biometrics (Received: 08-06-13, Walk-in: 08-08-13)
09-03-2013: Inline for interview (Yellow letter received: 10-23-13)
11-04-2013: Interview scheduled (Received: 11-09-13)
12-12-2013: Interview (Approved)
01-03-2014: Oath ceremony, passport application and passport received

DONE!

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Thanks for that tips edp333...I think I found the q and a you were talking about.

Very helpful information!

http://www.visajourney.com/content/adjudicator-q-and-a


NATURALIZATION
07-03-2013: Eligible to file
07-22-2013: Application sent (Delivered: 07-24-13)
08-05-2013: NOA1 received (Priority date: 07-24-13, Check cashed: 07-29-13)
08-22-2013: Biometrics (Received: 08-06-13, Walk-in: 08-08-13)
09-03-2013: Inline for interview (Yellow letter received: 10-23-13)
11-04-2013: Interview scheduled (Received: 11-09-13)
12-12-2013: Interview (Approved)
01-03-2014: Oath ceremony, passport application and passport received

DONE!

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I've decided that USCIS are a bunch of ###### heads. I don't think any of them really knows what they're doing.

Awww....come on now. :lol: I'm sure even a handful of them must know what they're doing. At least, I hope so!


NATURALIZATION
07-03-2013: Eligible to file
07-22-2013: Application sent (Delivered: 07-24-13)
08-05-2013: NOA1 received (Priority date: 07-24-13, Check cashed: 07-29-13)
08-22-2013: Biometrics (Received: 08-06-13, Walk-in: 08-08-13)
09-03-2013: Inline for interview (Yellow letter received: 10-23-13)
11-04-2013: Interview scheduled (Received: 11-09-13)
12-12-2013: Interview (Approved)
01-03-2014: Oath ceremony, passport application and passport received

DONE!

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Awww....come on now. :lol: I'm sure even a handful of them must know what they're doing. At least, I hope so!

I'm quite bitter at the moment having been the recipient of a letter form USCIS claiming our petition was filed late, when it was well within the 90 day window. You'd have to be a ###### head to make such a stupid mistake that we now have to clean up becuase the ###### heads that answer the phone can't even help you. Really, they are all ###### heads.

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I'm quite bitter at the moment having been the recipient of a letter form USCIS claiming our petition was filed late, when it was well within the 90 day window. You'd have to be a ###### head to make such a stupid mistake that we now have to clean up becuase the ###### heads that answer the phone can't even help you. Really, they are all ###### heads.

You have a point there...especially about the 1-800 number. Even the adjudicator himself said the hotline is useless and only serves as a distraction because if they had to answer those calls nothing would ever get done.

You'll get your situation sorted out. It probably happened because someone misplaced something or there was a glitch in the system. I'm looking forward to your update on a positive outcome. Till then, eat a piece of chocolate and try to smile. :yes:


NATURALIZATION
07-03-2013: Eligible to file
07-22-2013: Application sent (Delivered: 07-24-13)
08-05-2013: NOA1 received (Priority date: 07-24-13, Check cashed: 07-29-13)
08-22-2013: Biometrics (Received: 08-06-13, Walk-in: 08-08-13)
09-03-2013: Inline for interview (Yellow letter received: 10-23-13)
11-04-2013: Interview scheduled (Received: 11-09-13)
12-12-2013: Interview (Approved)
01-03-2014: Oath ceremony, passport application and passport received

DONE!

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