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^_^ Grand Master

^_^   5,021

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Ayman Latif is a U.S. citizen and disabled Marine veteran living in Egypt with no way to travel to the United States, where he was born and raised, to introduce his new baby daughter to the rest of his family who still reside in the states. He also can't take the required Veterans Administration exams to ensure he continues to receive the disability benefits he is due, after serving the U.S. for three years.

Raymond Knaeble is a U.S. citizen and Army veteran stuck in Colombia where he was visiting relatives after working for a military support company in Kuwait.

Adama Bah is a 22-year-old nanny living in New York who was granted refugee status at the age of 16 so she wouldn't have to face persecution in Guinea, the country where she was born. But in the United States, she can't board a plane to travel for work or fun.

What do these people have in common? They're all on the U.S. government's "No Fly List," and none of them know why. Yesterday Ayman, Raymond and Adama joined seven other U.S. citizens and legal residents in an ACLU lawsuit challenging the unconstitutional No Fly List, which strips people of the ability to fly into or from the United States or over U.S. air space. None of the plaintiffs on the lawsuit have been told why they are on the list or been given a chance to defend themselves.

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The only way to get off the list is to fill out a form on the Department of Homeland Security's website and hope that eventually a faceless, nameless bureaucrat on the other end will fix the error. As you might imagine, that doesn't happen very often.

http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security-technology-and-liberty/no-fly-me

IndigoSkies Experienced

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I just thought up a new reality tv show idea. These 7 people should be followed 24/7 in their quest to return home, possibly treking by walking.

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Nagishkaw Grand Master

Nagishkaw   510

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Raymond 0biWanKnaeble.

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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mawilson Grand Master

mawilson   2,133

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They could get to the US still. The would need to find a route around US airspace to Mexico and then cross the border by car. Hope this lawsuit opens up the list and provides an efficient way to get your name off.

There is a way.

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Heracles Grand Master

Heracles   417

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Why not just get if over with and run every decision by the ACLU and see if they agree with it or not?

According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

sjr09 Experienced

sjr09   155

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Recommending on VJ how to thwart the system? Sounds less than legal....:whistle:

Not sure (thwart) is the right word, but anyways, the people mentioned in the OP are US citizens or granted refugee status, how would Sousuke comment be less than legal? They are only on the no fly list, 'not the no travel to the US list'.

'PAU' both wife and daughter in the U.S. 08/25/2009

Daughter's' CRBA Manila Embassy 08/07/2008 dual citizenship

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Usui Takumi   1,562

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Recommending on VJ how to thwart the system? Sounds less than legal....:whistle:

Actually this was the advice given by the US government to an individual who was put on the list while vacationing in Ireland. They had him fly to Germany, then to Brazil, then Mexico and then his port of entry at the border. The no fly list is about keeping people out of US airspace not the US itself.

 

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