Bank Statements Yes or No

[Maleman 5]

First time poster here! While reading a forum, not sure where they discussed the need or better put the option of bank statements if you are above the 125% of the poverty line. Please see the in enclosed comments in quotes placed by another member below. My question is this true, and how do you formulate the 125% above the poverty line if you include yourself and your prospective beneficiary, and any dependents?

“If your income exceeds 125% of the poverty line when counting yourself, prospective immigrant and any dependents, then don't bother with assets (401K, Bank balance, Stocks etc..), it is just extra un-needed data to provide, the consular officer is most concerned with INCOME. “

Additionally, how many years of tax transcripts will they require? I have ordered (3) years back from the IRS just in case! (smile) Thanking everyone in advance for your input!

Our Time line

04/28/2010 sent I-129F packet to the USCIS Vermont center via certified mail

05/01/2010 USCIS received and signed for packet

05/06/2010 Check written to the USCIS clears bank

05/03/2010 Date USCIS starts case as official received date for NOA1

05/10/2010 received the hard copy I-797C Notice of Action (NOA1) from USCIS via U.S. mail

06/21/2010 USCIS sends notice to my cell phone, and then an email stating that the (NOA2) has been approved!!!

06/26/2010 Received hard copy of NOA2 in the post mail!!!

[Bobby+Umit 161]

If your current income level meets the requirement - and you are not planning on using assets - you do not need bank statements, 401k, stocks, etc... with your AoS.

I would recommend you get 3 years of your most recent tax transcripts. - since you did, your gold.

[Maleman 5]

Thanks so very much for your very prompt reply. Please keep in mind that my question pertained to the I-134. Since you mentioned the AOS in your reply, I assuming the same requirements pertain to the I-134? Since I have your attention would you please allow me another question regarding the I-134 topic? In the I-134 I plan to send the letter, “proof of employment” on letterhead provided by my employer and (3) years of back tax transcripts from the IRS. How about pay check stubs? I get my pay check by electronic means, thus I would actually be sending a Web print of my proof of salary from my company Web site. The question would be if needed, how many prior pay check verification prints would I need to send? Again, thanks so very much for your answer!

[sjr09 155]

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   First time poster here! While reading a forum, not sure where they discussed the need or better put the option of bank statements if you are above the 125% of the poverty line. Please see the in enclosed comments in quotes placed by another member below. My question is this true, and how do you formulate the 125% above the poverty line if you include yourself and your prospective beneficiary, and any dependents? USCIS Poverty Guidelines
   
   "If your income exceeds 125% of the poverty line when counting yourself, prospective immigrant and any dependents, then don't bother with assets (401K, Bank balance, Stocks etc..), it is just extra un-needed data to provide, the consular officer is most concerned with INCOME. " If you (well exceed) the 125% then no don't bother, if your border line then I would say yes.In my opinion, I would send a 'bank letter', even if I was over the PG.The more arrows in your quiver the better!
   Additionally, how many years of tax transcripts will they require? I have ordered (3) years back from the IRS just in case! (smile) Thanking everyone in advance for your input! 3 years
   Our Time line
   04/28/2010 sent I-129F packet to the USCIS Vermont center via certified mail
   05/01/2010 USCIS received and signed for packet
   05/06/2010 Check written to the USCIS clears bank
   05/03/2010 Date USCIS starts case as official received date for NOA1
   05/10/2010 received the hard copy I-797C Notice of Action (NOA1) from USCIS via U.S. mail
   06/21/2010 USCIS sends notice to my cell phone, and then an email stating that the (NOA2) has been approved!!!
   06/26/2010 Received hard copy of NOA2 in the post mail!!!
   

[BB & MJ 3]

I've read where it's not really needed if you are well above the poverty line and some posts where some consul officers ask for it at the Embassy. For myself and my fiancee, ESPECIALLY for peace of mind (to AVOID ANY POSSIBLE DELAYS) it doesn't hurt to have it available. Just go to your bank and ask for it. Should take about 15 min from what I've read...Good luck man!

[gary9891 10]

First time poster here! While reading a forum, not sure where they discussed the need or better put the option of bank statements if you are above the 125% of the poverty line. Please see the in enclosed comments in quotes placed by another member below. My question is this true, and how do you formulate the 125% above the poverty line if you include yourself and your prospective beneficiary, and any dependents?

“If your income exceeds 125% of the poverty line when counting yourself, prospective immigrant and any dependents, then don't bother with assets (401K, Bank balance, Stocks etc..), it is just extra un-needed data to provide, the consular officer is most concerned with INCOME. “

Additionally, how many years of tax transcripts will they require? I have ordered (3) years back from the IRS just in case! (smile) Thanking everyone in advance for your input!

Our Time line

04/28/2010 sent I-129F packet to the USCIS Vermont center via certified mail

05/01/2010 USCIS received and signed for packet

05/06/2010 Check written to the USCIS clears bank

05/03/2010 Date USCIS starts case as official received date for NOA1

05/10/2010 received the hard copy I-797C Notice of Action (NOA1) from USCIS via U.S. mail

06/21/2010 USCIS sends notice to my cell phone, and then an email stating that the (NOA2) has been approved!!!

06/26/2010 Received hard copy of NOA2 in the post mail!!!

Ditto on Bobby+Umit comment. I did send a copy of my most recent bank statement just to show available funds and that I did in fact have an account. I sent no bank letters, bonds etc. I sent 3 years IRS stuff, if it was unnecessary, I am sure the consular officer yawned as he ignored it as he stamped my fiancee's (now wife!) paperwork APPROVED.(approved July 09)

Best of luck to you...........

[trailmix 77]

What you really need and what you will be advised to take are sometimes two different things. Even with the I-864, only 1 tax return is required. People on VJ state you should take 3 - it's up to you (we shouldn't state as fact things that are just VJ 'knowledge') in my opinion.

The evidence you need to present is listed on page one of the I-134 instructions.

If you are going to take payslips, take 5 or 6, that should be sufficient.

[Norm and Grace 0]

First time poster here! While reading a forum, not sure where they discussed the need or better put the option of bank statements if you are above the 125% of the poverty line. Please see the in enclosed comments in quotes placed by another member below. My question is this true, and how do you formulate the 125% above the poverty line if you include yourself and your prospective beneficiary, and any dependents?

“If your income exceeds 125% of the poverty line when counting yourself, prospective immigrant and any dependents, then don't bother with assets (401K, Bank balance, Stocks etc..), it is just extra un-needed data to provide, the consular officer is most concerned with INCOME. “

Additionally, how many years of tax transcripts will they require? I have ordered (3) years back from the IRS just in case! (smile) Thanking everyone in advance for your input!

Our Time line

04/28/2010 sent I-129F packet to the USCIS Vermont center via certified mail

05/01/2010 USCIS received and signed for packet

05/06/2010 Check written to the USCIS clears bank

05/03/2010 Date USCIS starts case as official received date for NOA1

05/10/2010 received the hard copy I-797C Notice of Action (NOA1) from USCIS via U.S. mail

06/21/2010 USCIS sends notice to my cell phone, and then an email stating that the (NOA2) has been approved!!!

06/26/2010 Received hard copy of NOA2 in the post mail!!!

To meet 125% of poverty guideline

you + prospective beneficiary = >$18,212.00 (you have to make more than $18,212.00)

you + prospective beneficiary + one dependant = >$22,887.00

you + prospective beneficiary + two dependants = >$27,562.00

you + prospective beneficiary + three dependants = >$32,237.00

poverty guideline --- http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

You should have 3 most recent years of tax transcripts and the most recent years W-2 copies

[trailmix 77]

You should have 3 most recent years of tax transcripts and the most recent years W-2 copies

This is not correct. 1 tax return is required, the other two are optional, but probably a good idea. If you have transcripts you do not need to take W2s.

[sjr09 155]

Your dealing with USEM provide 3 years.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Since you mentioned the AOS in your reply, I assuming the same requirements pertain to the I-134?

AoS or AOS is a dual purpose acronym on this site, and has to be taken in context. In this case, Bobby meant "Affidavit of Support".

[Bobby+Umit 161]

AoS or AOS is a dual purpose acronym on this site, and has to be taken in context. In this case, Bobby meant "Affidavit of Support".

Correct - taken in context

You would need to check with the consulate you are dealing with - they all have differing requirements, and there are some that require more info than what the instructions state for the form in question.

Some want 1 year worth of tax info, some want more. Some want 100%, some want 125% (even though the 134 requires only 100%)

Remember - you are trying to prove you have a stable source of income, over the level needed, to provide for the immigrant. You would not get in trouble providing more info than requested for this particular form.

3 years worth shows a pretty good track record - even states this in the 864 instructions, "If you believe additional returns may help you to establish your ability to maintain sufficient income, you may submit transcripts or photocopies of your Federal individual income tax returns for the three most recent years."

*I make no distinction between the 134 and the 864 when it comes to the K-1 visa. The CO's are looking at the K-1 person as "immigrating" and staying in the US. The 134 isn't meant for immigrants, but the CO's are not stupid, and they are charged to determine if the person in front of them will become a "public charge".

The more evidence you can produce to show this won't happen means you will have better results in the end. (Note: this is my personal opinion, based on convos with Ankara embassy and general reading of posts here and there.)

I was directed to read this telegram and in the process, was made to understand that they use 864 rules when dealing with K-1 134 issues *Ankara embassy*. (makes sense if you think about it, since there are no real rules for the 134, again, the non-immigrant vs immigrant designation is coming back to bite you)

As my Dad always told me, if you can get more info for the same price, do so. Since the IRS transcripts are "free", and it doesn't cause any delay asking for 3 vice 1, I say - go for it, get 3.

[trailmix 77]

As my Dad always told me, if you can get more info for the same price, do so. Since the IRS transcripts are "free", and it doesn't cause any delay asking for 3 vice 1, I say - go for it, get 3.

I agree with you, in fact that is exactly what we did and my Husband was asked for the other 2 at the interview and that worked well.

My point above, not specifically directed to you, is that I personally don't think it's a good idea to just give a blanket answer when it is VJ folklore we are talking about, not the facts.

NVC/the consulates request 1 - the other two are optional, when we answer someone about that fact we should direct them to the facts (as you have Bobby), not just give our personal interpretations of the facts.

[scotty's girl 1]

When I had my interview, they asked for my fiance's tax return, however, I didn't have it so I just showed his W2 for 3 years. The CO said everything was OK with my papers, but he still needs to see the tax return. He told me that he only needs the 2009 tax return and a scanned copy is fine.