Mexicans seething over Border Patrol killing of teen

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You are starting to sound more and more like some extreme leftist idiot.

It's also why the second someone challenges your opinions and asks you questions about them, you seem to run off and claim you are being attacked.

One is not attacked when ones opinions are challenged or when one is questioned about said opinions.

However, when neither of the above occurs and instead one is labeled an "idiot", then an attack has likely occurred.

Case in point, see post above.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

As a legal alien who went through incredibly difficult problems to immigrate (as did we all), I am very anti illegal immigration.

However, when I become a citizen, I will be a decent law abiding citizen who does not agree with lynchings and extra-legal killings and I will insist on both American law enforcement and the Military, acting with human decency as well as legality

I understand that the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness as expressed in the declaration of independence was not repeated in the constitution, but I don't understand how that is being used against you or is in some way a weakness. If applying the constitution is seen as an inconvenience or a hindrance to brutalising brown skinned illegals, then that would be a great disappointment to the founding fathers.

Insisting that brown non citizens have no rights and can be treated in any way the officer feels like at the time, is about the most Un-American, unconstitutional thing that anyone can say, and if I said it in my citizenship interview, I would be denied.

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Great post.

Edited June 9, 2010 by El Buscador

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Mexicans seething over Border Patrol killing of teen.

Seething? Gee wheres the outrage over their own governments handling of the 3000 murders of the drug cartels.

This just in: Sergio was on the top ten smuggler list, also was deported 5 times.

[Heracles 417]

One is not attacked when ones opinions are challenged or when one is questioned about said opinions.

However, when neither of the above occurs and instead one is labeled an "idiot", then an attack has likely occurred.

Case in point, see post above.

Not at all actually. This is something I give Paul credit. While he is under no obligation or requirement to do so, he at least explains his opinions. Others have a knack for posting articles or stringing a few lines together but never answer questions related to their views. Furthermore, these same posters seem to forget the earlier days when they ambushed people for their views and called them every insult under the sun. AKA being a hypocrite. Hence the ridiculous nature of creating a thread asking for normal and calm.

First sign of an extremest is their inability and unwillingness to discuss [explain] their POV or answer questions.

Edited June 9, 2010 by Booyah!

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Mexicans seething over Border Patrol killing of teen.

Seething? Gee wheres the outrage over their own governments handling of the 3000 murders of the drug cartels.

This just in: Sergio was on the top ten smuggler list, also was deported 5 times.

The Mehican government up in arms about a death is the joke of the century.

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Not a question of left or right - it's a question of decent and indecent and legal and illegal.

We don't know all the facts here so it's impossible to condone or condemn the officer.

What we can establish is that PEOPLE have rights whether they are legal or illegal.

If we don't go with that, then we end up separating PEOPLE into mensch or untermench

When I think about it, it's not the constitution or the law or religion, it's common decency, common humanity. I hope those terms are not exclusively either left wing or right wing.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwf3ybMgjVI

Americans are upset over this killing also.

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What we can establish is that PEOPLE have rights whether they are legal or illegal.

We are a nation of laws, not of people.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The Mehican government up in arms about a death is the joke of the century.

Why? Are Mexicans immoral people?

[Captain Oates 911]

We are a nation of laws, not of people.

'We the laws' just doesn't sound right

[Heracles 417]

Not a question of left or right - it's a question of decent and indecent and legal and illegal.

We don't know all the facts here so it's impossible to condone or condemn the officer.

What we can establish is that PEOPLE have rights whether they are legal or illegal.

If we don't go with that, then we end up separating PEOPLE into mensch or untermench

When I think about it, it's not the constitution or the law or religion, it's common decency, common humanity. I hope those terms are not exclusively either left wing or right wing.

All good and well to be all sanctimonious on the issue, from the comfort of your home, but quite a different story being on the front line. It's the same deal with people's opinions when someone gets shot and possibly killed by a police officer. People seem to ignore that the police officers having their lives on the line and risk being shot dead daily but focus on the one case of someone being killed.

Edited June 9, 2010 by Booyah!

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'We the laws' just doesn't sound right

Perhaps you'd be happier in a socialist paradise where people matter.

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All good and well to be all sanctimonious on the issue, from the comfort of your home, but quite a different story being on the front line. It's the same deal with people's opinions when someone gets shot and possibly killed by a police officer. People seem to ignore that the police officers having their lives on the line and risk being shot dead daily but focus on the one case of someone being killed.

You don't know Alan's background, do you?

'We the laws' just doesn't sound right

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You don't know Alan's background, do you?

What does his background have to do with his comment regarding this incident?

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Our laws (and the brave men and women who defend them - our lawyers) are no laughing matter. They are what defines us. At our worst moments, they are all we have.