DS-230

[CAN2US 0]

I am filling out the DS-230...and on PART I of the form...question # 7...it says... "If Dual Nationality Give Both"...now here's the thing...when I filled out G-325A...they asked about Nationality...and I said CANADIAN...and nothing else...

But this is the first time they have asked about dual nationality...

I am a Canadian Citizen...but I have an expired Pakistani Passport...and the last time I traveled to Pakistan...which was this Jan 2010...I used my Canadian passport...and showed my NICOP card to enter Pakistan...NICOP stands for(National Identity Card For Overseas Pakistanis)...

So does that mean I am a dual citizen???...should I say...I have an expired Pakistani Passport that I no longer use...

The only time I have ever used my Pakistani passport...was back in 2006...to enter Pakistan...and ever since then...have not used it...

So should I say Pakistani and Canadian on the form...does it matter??

I don't want to personally write Pakistan...as I don't travel on that passport anymore...

Does it make a difference that my Birth Certificate will be from Pakistan...do they expect me to write I am a Dual Citizen??

Just wondering! Thanks!!

[trailmix 77]

Hi,

Yes you should write Pakistani and Canadian for your two citizenships.

[CAN2US 0]

Hi,

Yes you should write Pakistani and Canadian for your two citizenships.

Then do I also need to submit the biographic page from my Pakistani expired passport...do they want to see that...or should I just be submitting...the biographic page from my Canadian passport??

What other forms, as a dual citizen, do I need to include with the DS-230 form...??

[zenaxe 22]

Then do I also need to submit the biographic page from my Pakistani expired passport...do they want to see that...or should I just be submitting...the biographic page from my Canadian passport??

What other forms, as a dual citizen, do I need to include with the DS-230 form...??

I would definitely identify BOTH citizenships and it wouldn't hurt to produce the bio page of your current Canadian and expired Pakastani passports. You can also do a cover letter pdf and attach it explaining this. Indicate that you are sending both bio from the two passports , one is expired etc. You shouldn't have any problems. An expired passport doesn't mean an expired citizenship and so you are at present a dual national. DOS needs to know.

Any time I used additional information to answer a question on the DS230 ie educational institutions I attended, or trips to USA, I answered on the DS230 form and added see supplemental sheet attached, then I made a form with the # that cooresponded from the DS230 form and my additional information. I entitled the page accordingly.

Just a quick cover sheet advising is probably more than enough, along with bio pages of the two passports, indicating your Pakistani pp is expired etc.

Good luck.

[CAN2US 0]

Just worried it might complicate things for me...

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I am almost at the end...and dont want to screw up...

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[zenaxe 22]

Just worried it might complicate things for me...

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I am almost at the end...and dont want to screw up...

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On second read of my post, I'm wondering if you even need to bother adding the bio page of an expired passport. Identify both citizenships for sure and send in your current bio page of your current passport. I earlier said to send both bio pages even if one is expired.

Either or shouldn't be a problem

Any other comments/thoughts on this?

[gina_raluca 14]

People can also comment.

On second read of my post, I'm wondering if you even need to bother adding the bio page of an expired passport. Identify both citizenships for sure and send in your current bio page of your current passport. I earlier said to send both bio pages even if one is expired.

Either or shouldn't be a problem

Any other comments/thoughts on this?

I think the biographic page from the current passport is needed and the Pakistani one may not be necessary. When I called NVC about changing my mom's misspelled name, they asked me to attach her biographic page to an email. I was told that they use that page to make sure they they have the correct spelling of the person's name for the visa. So, just noting that you have dual citizenship should be enough. I think.

Oh, and I subscribe to the advice about attaching a letter explaining that you have both citizenships, but that you did not indicated this on the initial petition (and give reason).

Edited May 15, 2010 by gina_raluca

[CAN2US 0]

I think the biographic page from the current passport is needed and the Pakistani one may not be necessary. When I called NVC about changing my mom's misspelled name, they asked me to attach her biographic page to an email. I was told that they use that page to make sure they they have the correct spelling of the person's name for the visa. So, just noting that you have dual citizenship should be enough. I think.

Oh, and I subscribe to the advice about attaching a letter explaining that you have both citizenships, but that you did not indicated this on the initial petition (and give reason).

There was never a question about dual citizenship initially, it has only been an issue now for the DS-230, I have not hidden/not indicated anything-been clear as possible so far...

Thanks for the tips! =)

[sachinky 464]

You NEED to indicate both as you ARE a dual citizen.

[CAN2US 0]

I am indicating it!!

Fingers Crossed.

Peace.

[trailmix 77]

I am indicating it!!

Fingers Crossed.

Peace.

Hi,

Personally I wouldn't bother sending the biographic page of your Pakistani passport. They have asked you to identify your citizenships, you are doing that. No need to back that up with passports.

Do take the expired passport with you to the interview - just in case they ask to see it (I don't think they will - but hey, better to be a bit over prepared).

[CAN2US 0]

Do you guys think, they will want me to first revoke one citizenship officially-sent them the paperwork-so they can then continue to process my application...

How long will it take to revoke a citizenship??

Is there anyone out there, from Canada, who was in the same situation???

Anyone!

[gina_raluca 14]

Do you guys think, they will want me to first revoke one citizenship officially-sent them the paperwork-so they can then continue to process my application...

How long will it take to revoke a citizenship??

Is there anyone out there, from Canada, who was in the same situation???

Anyone!

Hey, I'm not Canadian, but US does not ask you to renounce your citizenships. But someone else should answer this.

[trailmix 77]

Do you guys think, they will want me to first revoke one citizenship officially-sent them the paperwork-so they can then continue to process my application...

How long will it take to revoke a citizenship??

Is there anyone out there, from Canada, who was in the same situation???

Anyone!

I will move your post to the Canada forum (from IR1/CR1)

[trailmix 77]

I am a dual citizen (Canada/U.S.), no you do not need to revoke your other citizenship.

Bottom line, even though you do not want to disclose your Pakistani citizenship - you must.

Now, if you want to revoke your Pakistani citizenship before filing your DS-230, I suppose you could do that.

I don't see a link for this form on the Pakistan consulate site for Canada, however if you look at the Consulate General site for New York there are links to forms at the top of the page and the link for renunciation will take you to the form you would need to use.

I would recommend, if you want to do this, that you contact the either one of the consulates or the high commission, their contact information is here.

If what you really want to ask is if anyone who has citizenship from Pakistan, as well as another country, was given a hassle by immigration, then I would recommend you start a new thread in the CR1/IR1 forum and put that in your title.

Edited May 15, 2010 by trailmix