AOS Evidence

[baron555 934]

I wonder if AOS and lifting conditions is harder if you don't have kids...

I mean it can't be that hard, considering they can't expect every married couple to have a child and such.

For AOS I can't see us having any tax returns together and all that, since there won't be enough time. What if she doesn't get a driver's license within that time frame too... I mean we get married and file AOS, that's 2 months at most.

We'll have a joint bank account by then, but that's going to be pretty much it, I think.

Blah, I'll worry about it when we get there But I'm just thinking out loud right now...

The evidence you need will be at the AOS interview, which is about 5 month away from the AOS initial filing. I don't plan to send any evidence with our petition besides the marriage cert.

[Martyshk 137]

The evidence you need will be at the AOS interview, which is about 5 month away from the AOS initial filing. I don't plan to send any evidence with our petition besides the marriage cert.

Yeah, that makes more sense. Maybe even tax returns by then, all depending on when all this happens. But yeah, 5 months down there road there will be lots of stuff: new lease on both names, car insurance, financials, yadda yadda

[mox 298]

I don't think it's any harder if you don't have kids. In fact, if it were easier with kids then that would be a loophole green card scammers would take advantage of. But don't sweat it. It's not even like you need to show a whole ton of joint documentation. Your joint account and a utility bill or lease showing both your names on it--done and done. If you have more, bring it, it can't hurt. And yeah, they won't expect to see documents like a joint tax return if you've only been together such a short time.

Like the K1, people (understandably) get too worried about AOS. But don't. You should only worry if you are stubbornly going out of your way to keep a strict dividing line between what's hers and what's yours, or if you really do have something to hide. Otherwise it's just not going to be a problem.

Edited January 13, 2010 by mox

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I wonder if AOS and lifting conditions is harder if you don't have kids...

I mean it can't be that hard, considering they can't expect every married couple to have a child and such.

For AOS I can't see us having any tax returns together and all that, since there won't be enough time. What if she doesn't get a driver's license within that time frame too... I mean we get married and file AOS, that's 2 months at most.

We'll have a joint bank account by then, but that's going to be pretty much it, I think.

Blah, I'll worry about it when we get there But I'm just thinking out loud right now...

No, it is not harder.

I am only saying, IF you have kids, (Baron does) they generate excellent evidence. Check out the Director of VSCs comments on this in the lifting of conditions forum, pinned at the top. Kids are in no way needed and just having children does not prove anything except someone had sexual intercourse. (well actually TWO someones) It is the combined caring of children that is good evidence

[shikarnov 7]

Hmm... Wedding pictures as evidence? We didn't have a wedding. It was just the two of us and the JP. We felt that it would be unfair to the family in Russia to throw this big party that they couldn't attend, but at which there was my entire family and friends. So, there's no salt in the wound for the family overseas, but no wedding pictures for the AOS goons...

Are we going to be fighting an uphill battle at the AOS interview when it comes?

[mox 298]

I don't think so. I remember seeing a news report of one of the biggest green card scam rings (in Miami I'm thinking??) being taken down, and they had a little room set up where the "bride" and "groom," within the hour of meeting each other for the very first time, could take a wedding picture together, specifically to use as AOS evidence.

No one piece of evidence is going to make or break AOS for you. It's a culmination of things. So just make sure you paint a reasonable picture of actual cohabitation, and you'll be fine. And just like you did for the K1 interview, you don't need to completely overwhelm them with evidence, just bring enough to make it clear.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Hmm... Wedding pictures as evidence? We didn't have a wedding. It was just the two of us and the JP. We felt that it would be unfair to the family in Russia to throw this big party that they couldn't attend, but at which there was my entire family and friends. So, there's no salt in the wound for the family overseas, but no wedding pictures for the AOS goons...

Are we going to be fighting an uphill battle at the AOS interview when it comes?

We had our wedding by a JP on the front lawn. Our son took some photos. They never looked at the photos or any other evidence, don't worry about it. A legal marriage is what they need, not professional photos.

[FortLaudy 10]

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/10/02/State/Gr...arriage_b.shtml

I found the story you were talking about Mox, wow! Hey, I was wondering what happened to that cat guy? anyone know? just wondering if the poor kitty is actually making it to america or not, anyone know?

Edited January 15, 2010 by Shani682

[mox 298]

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/10/02/State/Gr...arriage_b.shtml

I found the story you were talking about Mox, wow!

Yep, that's the one! This is why USCIS can't give more weight to one kind of evidence over another. It's a sort of "evidence profiling," and it just encourages scammers to go for the evidence with the most weight. Better to just look at the evidence presented as a whole, which seems to be what they're doing.

[slim 1,514]

I and they had a little room set up where the "bride" and "groom," within the hour of meeting each other for the very first time, could take a wedding picture together,

Did they also consummate their marriage in that little room?

.... and was that also on film?????

[mox 298]

LOL nope. I doubt the "couples" ever saw each other outside the AOS interview and maybe a few hours in advance to prepare. Otherwise it was just a standard business arrangement. Maybe the guys took less money for "business with benefits," I don't know.

[FortLaudy 10]

LOL !!! well they're inelligible for AOS if the marriage was no consummated, my husband joked about that, as at first he thought we had to prove that too, LOL... he goes "Let's just do it right in front of them at the interview or send them a tape"

[visaveteran 1]

Actually, the biggest GC scam was out of Norfolk VA where low ranking Navy men were "marrying" FSU women. This one was big enough to make the nightly news awhile ago. Like many news stories, never heard how it all turned out. http://hamptonroads.com/2008/04/33-charged...riages-benefits

[clueless_in_usa 8]

LOL !!! well they're inelligible for AOS if the marriage was no consummated, my husband joked about that, as at first he thought we had to prove that too, LOL... he goes "Let's just do it right in front of them at the interview or send them a tape"

If the interviewer is a man, a tape and/or photos like that may be the best evidence he will consider. Probably the only evidence he needs to approve the GC

Not a bad idea ... as a backup plan.

[FortLaudy 10]

If the interviewer is a man, a tape and/or photos like that may be the best evidence he will consider. Probably the only evidence he needs to approve the GC

Not a bad idea ... as a backup plan.

LOL !! Hell no, that's way too much blackmail material I couldn't handle

That should be a new rule: proof of consummation for AOS, can you imagine how many guys would be lining up to take up that job of examining evidence, lol...also sure as hell would make a lot of scammers think twice about going through with it, haha !!!