Swiss arrest Polanski in 1977 sex case

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

she was pimped out by her mother, who should also have been charged

she was given champagne and quaaludes and then raped and sodomized - she was 13, not 14

Polanski plead guilty

it's a pretty cut and dry case. you don't get off just because you happen to be the person who made chinatown

[Chica Yeyé 41]

she was pimped out by her mother, who should also have been charged

she was given champagne and quaaludes and then raped and sodomized - she was 13, not 14

Polanski plead guilty

it's a pretty cut and dry case. you don't get off just because you happen to be the person who made chinatown

[mawilson 2,133]

it's a pretty cut and dry case. you don't get off just because you happen to be the person who made chinatown

I think he should get off because he's famous.

Famous people are above the law.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

it's a pretty cut and dry case. you don't get off just because you happen to be the person who made chinatown

I think he should get off because he's famous.

Famous people are above the law.

AJ???? why r u using mawilson's ID????

[Danno 1,228]

Just for the info, the girl was 14 and spending the evening at Jack Nicholson's party...

Now I'm wondering what a 14 years old is doing at an actor's party on a schoolday...?

It doesn't excuse anything, but I think it's an important fact still.

Not sure where you got that info but everyplace is reporting she was 13, there was no party, Jack was not even in town.

Where did you get that info?

Here is one report I saw,

POLANSKI RAPED ME WHEN I WAS 13 .. HE IS A CREEP

DRUGS, champagne, a hot tub and an evening of depraved sex. Nothing out of the ordinary for Hollywood's enfant terrible Roman Polanski.

Except that on this particular evening, the movie director's victim was just 13 years old.

She was Samantha Geimer, an aspiring model Polanski had earlier photographed topless before drugging, raping and sodomising her in a case that shocked America.

Which explains why Samantha is bewildered that the director has just won £50,000 in a High Court libel action against Vanity Fair after the magazine claimed he made sexual advances to a woman on the day of his murdered wife Sharon Tate's funeral.

"Polanski is a very arrogant, self-important, creepy old man," says Samantha, now a married mum-of-three who lives with husband David.

Speaking exclusively to the Mirror at her home in Hawaii, the 39-year-old continues: "The libel case makes no sense. I really couldn't understand why he took out the lawsuit in the first place. Surely a man like this hasn't got a reputation to tarnish?

"He took sex from me and my innocence. I don't think it occurred to him that someone wouldn't want sex with him."

Polanski, who was 43 at the time, violated the youngster eight years after losing pregnant Sharon in the brutal 1969 slaying by the Charles Manson "family".

Samantha Geimer aged 13

SAMANTHA'S ordeal began after Polanski met her mother at an LA restaurant and showed a professional interest in the girl. Mother and daughter were thrilled.

It was a fine February day in 1977 when Polanski drove up to their California home in his rented Mercedes. Samantha's mother showed him into the living room.

Then 13-year-old Sam walked in with her pet bird and her dog. Polanski suggested they walk into the hills for a few photos.

"It was just him and me. He took some standard pictures but when I I changed clothes he continued to take photos," Samantha says. "He took top-less pictures of me but it all seemed very professional and I did as I was told."

Two weeks later Polanski turned up at the house again. He told Samantha he was taking her to see a friend and they drove to his friend Jack Nicholson's house. "It was exciting," says Samantha. "My girlfriend was supposed to come along as my chaperone but at the last minute Polanski said it would be better if she didn't come. She went home and Mom didn't realise I was on the shoot alone."

At the mansion Polanski got to work. The teenager was impressed by house in its fabulous position overlooking the city, although Nicholson was away skiing.

Samantha was thirsty so Polanski found a bottle of champagne and opened it by the pool.

She remembers: "He took shots of me everywhere. He was taking pictures and topping up my glass constantly." After four or five glasses Samantha was tipsy. Soon he was photo-graphing her nude in a whirlpool bath. Then Polanski stripped off and joined her.

"That was when it turned," says Samantha. "He said 'come here', put his arm around me and touched me on the shoulders.

"I realised I had put myself in a bad situation. I got scared and said I had asthma and couldn't breathe. I said I had to get out of the tub.

"As quick as I could get out of that Jacuzzi I got out. He was older and I didn't think it right we should be hanging out in the tub."

Polanski tried to comfort her. He told her to take half a tablet of the drug Quaalude - a powerful sedative - claiming it would help her asthma, before suggesting she move into the bedroom to sit down.

"We sat on the sofa and that's when it happened," says Samantha. "He started kissing me, I protested but then just submitted. I'd been drinking and was too frightened to push him off - he was a famous guy, he was intimidating. We were alone and it was pitch-black. I was scared. I knew what he was gonna do - and I didn't want him to do it.

"All I could think was let's get through this and I can get home. I just froze up." Polanski had intercourse with Samantha, performed oral sex and sodomised her. He then drove her home saying: "Don't tell your mum or your boyfriend, this is our little secret."

Back at her house, Samantha ran to her room while Polanski charmed her mum. It was not until much later she found out what really happened. Samantha's mother overheard a telephone conversation in which her daughter told her boyfriend about the rape.

Polanski, who won an Oscar for The Pianist in 2003, was arrested and spent 45 days behind bars.

His six charges including unlawful sex with a minor and forcible rape and in a bizarre twist the trial was set for August 9, the eighth anniversary of Sharon Tate's death. In fact, it was never held.

A friend of Polanski's overheard the judge vow to put him away for "100 years" and the director fled the US never to return.

Last week he testified in the Vanity Fair case by video link from a studio at the five-star Crillon Hotel in Paris. Polanski dare not set foot on British soil in case he is extradited back to the States.

For Samantha's husband David the whole affair is very simple: "Every time Polanski comes up in conversation I get angry inside, that man makes my skin crawl."

[Amby 490]

it's a pretty cut and dry case. you don't get off just because you happen to be the person who made chinatown

I think he should get off because he's famous.

Famous people are above the law.

AJ???? why r u using mawilson's ID????

I think Mark forgot to log out and log back in as AJ

[SMR 368]

well, he'll have to answer according to what the laws and penalties were in 1977.

I guess according to some here it was ok to rape a 13 year old. He should pay for his crime.

Rape? No.

Consensual sex? Depends... some 13 year-olds are more mature than 20-year-olds.

Read the case. He drugged her. She tried to leave and objected. Then he performed oral sex on her, sodomized her, and forced her to have intercourse with him. What's your definition of rape?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I joke about most everything, but I draw the line at child abuse/rape/etc and domestic violence. To suggest that a 13 year old is mature enough for consexual sex with an adult is asinine.

[almaty 19]

same here..it waspure rape on a person who could not give consent...the mother is a c##t..the girl the victim here.. and polanski a child rapist

[mawilson 2,133]

I joke about most everything, but I draw the line at child abuse/rape/etc and domestic violence. To suggest that a 13 year old is mature enough for consexual sex with an adult is asinine.

So 13-year-olds are off-limits, but poor, defenseless sheep are ok?

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I joke about most everything, but I draw the line at child abuse/rape/etc and domestic violence. To suggest that a 13 year old is mature enough for consexual sex with an adult is asinine.

So 13-year-olds are off-limits, but poor, defenseless sheep are ok?

if they are over 13, yes.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I joke about most everything, but I draw the line at child abuse/rape/etc and domestic violence. To suggest that a 13 year old is mature enough for consexual sex with an adult is asinine.

So 13-year-olds are off-limits, but poor, defenseless sheep are ok?

if they are over 13, yes.

But 13 in sheep years is like 80, hence my preference for young sheep.

[EasternDE 35]

Just for the info, the girl was 14 and spending the evening at Jack Nicholson's party...

Now I'm wondering what a 14 years old is doing at an actor's party on a schoolday...?

It doesn't excuse anything, but I think it's an important fact still.

Not sure where you got that info but everyplace is reporting she was 13, there was no party, Jack was not even in town.

Where did you get that info?

Gosh, I read so many articles in the last days...

It's actually never mentionned that Jack Nicholson wasn't in town in the french news, not that it really matters...

That article you quote is totaly bullshit as she accepted a deal and took the money a long time ago.

Then the judge thought it wasn't enough and started another procedure on his own. Since that she tried several times to stop that procedure...

The last time was in january.

If you're curious, you can use google translation:

http://www.lemonde.fr/archives/article/200..._1246722_0.html

[Danno 1,228]

Just for the info, the girl was 14 and spending the evening at Jack Nicholson's party...

Now I'm wondering what a 14 years old is doing at an actor's party on a schoolday...?

It doesn't excuse anything, but I think it's an important fact still.

Not sure where you got that info but everyplace is reporting she was 13, there was no party, Jack was not even in town.

Where did you get that info?

Gosh, I read so many articles in the last days...

It's actually never mentionned that Jack Nicholson wasn't in town in the french news, not that it really matters...

That article you quote is totaly bullshit as she accepted a deal and took the money a long time ago.

Then the judge thought it wasn't enough and started another procedure on his own. Since that she tried several times to stop that procedure...

The last time was in january.

If you're curious, you can use google translation:

http://www.lemonde.fr/archives/article/200..._1246722_0.html

Couple points.

- your at an English language site, if you can't post a news story in english.. must not be very solid.

-It's quite common for parents not to want their child on the stand in front of the accuser.

- The only "deal" I am aware of is a "civil suite" which was settled out of court, has nothing at all to do with criminal charges..... her current state of mind is not nearly as relevant as the question:

Were the crimes committed? DID he flee the justice system?

If I cut my wife open with a knife, can she make the charges go-away by saying "she does not want me charged"?

Really, if you know of info that sheds a different light on the story .. share it, so far you came here crying B.S. but you brought nothing to back it up with.

[EasternDE 35]

Couple points.

- your at an English language site, if you can't post a news story in english.. must not be very solid.

-It's quite common for parents not to want their child on the stand in front of the accuser.

- The only "deal" I am aware of is a "civil suite" which was settled out of court, has nothing at all to do with criminal charges..... her current state of mind is not nearly as relevant as the question:

Were the crimes committed? DID he flee the justice system?

If I cut my wife open with a knife, can she make the charges go-away by saying "she does not want me charged"?

Really, if you know of info that sheds a different light on the story .. share it, so far you came here crying B.S. but you brought nothing to back it up with.

Oh yeah, you're right, not in English = not very solid. It's an article from Le Monde, the most "solid" newspaper in France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Monde

But as I said, that's just if you're curious.

I don't say he's innocent. I believe the main guilty person in this story is the mother, who as mentionned previously pimped her and litterally pushed her into his arms. Probably in hope of some little glory...